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05-23-2016 , 11:07 AM
A girl has no entertainment value.
05-23-2016 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
Was a bit distracted when Iron Isles people were explaining the plan involving Dani. How did those two groups align? Plan was to ship her and the dothraki/unsullied across the sea?
The theory is basically that Dany and the Greyjoys both hate everyone on Westeros, so their mutual hatred will lead to an alliance. Greyjoys build a fleet and offer it to Dany (as well as Euron's cock) in return for the alliance.
05-23-2016 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
A girl has no entertainment value.
Legit made me laugh
05-23-2016 , 11:11 AM
How aware are Westeros people of Dani and her dragons, unsullied and dothraki?

Seems to me that would make eliminating her priority # 1 for anyone vying for the throne, yet nobody mentions her ever.
05-23-2016 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FishAndChipss
Ok, so theories on how and why the Night's King is able to see and interact with "future bran" ? In the previous flashbacks, it seemed like bran and bloodraven were invisible. when bran called out to his father, ned seemed to have heard something but still couldn't recognize that future bran was there.

so how come the Night's King interacted with him as if he was right there in that past time period? One thought I have is that the Night's King also possesses greensight, just like bran and bloodraven. Just like bran and bloodraven could interact with each in the visions because they were both using greensight--maybe anyone with greensight can interact with anyone else even if one or more of them are from the past/future.
It's not clear what time that Night King was from. He could have been from the same time as Bran. I don't think Bran's vision is limited to the past - when Jojen explained it, I think he said you could see past, present, and future. That's also hinted at when Rickon states that they'll never see Ned again when he leaves for KL's (assuming Rickon also has some of the same power).
05-23-2016 , 11:27 AM
The new Iron Islands king is a hell of a lot better politican than Yurah is, his argument was far more compelling I can see why he won the election or whatever the hell that ceremony was.

The only thing that felt off to me about it was the aftermath, like the Iron Islands people seem fiercely loyal and respected Yurah, even if they didn't want her as queen, I don't see why they would like randomly wanna murder her. It seems she anticipated this which is why she bolted, and I guess her loyalists bolted with her.
05-23-2016 , 11:28 AM
In before its revealed that the Night's king is an og Stark
05-23-2016 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
Was a bit distracted when Iron Isles people were explaining the plan involving Dani. How did those two groups align? Plan was to ship her and the dothraki/unsullied across the sea?
Dany has a huge army but no means of moving them around the world. The Iron Islander's people know ships and seafaring but don't really have good ground forces.

Both groups want to see the existing powers on Westeros destroyed.

He points out that those two things seem to match up perfectly, plus there's the fact neither of them are married, making the match even better.
05-23-2016 , 11:34 AM
I was tempted to imagine the showrunners trying to draw parallels between that Kingsmoot thing and the ongoing US election.
05-23-2016 , 11:41 AM
Seemed pretty clear that Bran's interaction with the Night King was a vision of the present.

I thought the funniest thing about the Kingsmoot is they go through this whole "democratic" selection, but then have to drown the new guy and see if he survives before he can be crowned. How funny would it be if he just died on the spot? Then they have to go find Yara and be like yo, my bad dude.

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05-23-2016 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ham on rye
Seemed pretty clear that Bran's interaction with the Night King was a vision of the present.
this
05-23-2016 , 11:55 AM
yeah it seemed like maybe 20% of the population was loyal to yara so it's not so zomg that they stole a bunch of ships
05-23-2016 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FishAndChipss
Ok, so theories on how and why the Night's King is able to see and interact with "future bran" ? In the previous flashbacks, it seemed like bran and bloodraven were invisible. when bran called out to his father, ned seemed to have heard something but still couldn't recognize that future bran was there.

so how come the Night's King interacted with him as if he was right there in that past time period? One thought I have is that the Night's King also possesses greensight, just like bran and bloodraven. Just like bran and bloodraven could interact with each in the visions because they were both using greensight--maybe anyone with greensight can interact with anyone else even if one or more of them are from the past/future.
I assume Bran's vision of the King weren't actually in the past, and that the King dragged Bran into the vision rather than it being directed as usual by the tree guy.

The tree guy knew that that was the sign of him being killed soon as he said he has future visions too, so he presumably also knew that Bran had some kind of control over the past, contra the earlier scene with Ned with the double-light-sabre guy.

Hopefully that means that this is the only time Bran changes the past in that kind of time-loop way, but given that he didn't actually change anything per se (Hodor was there all along), it won't be too bad if Bran tries to do that kind of thing again.
05-23-2016 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ham on rye
Seemed pretty clear that Bran's interaction with the Night King was a vision of the present.

I thought the funniest thing about the Kingsmoot is they go through this whole "democratic" selection, but then have to drown the new guy and see if he survives before he can be crowned. How funny would it be if he just died on the spot? Then they have to go find Yara and be like yo, my bad dude.

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I just can't see that succeeding every single time. It would have been hilariously random if they just went like ''Well, he dead, let's crown the woman'' and she already set sail.
05-23-2016 , 12:26 PM
Perhaps their god is real, so it's safe and not really a test. We know the Lord of the Light is almost certainly real after all.
05-23-2016 , 12:29 PM
Only the Many Faced God is real. Then again, according to that theory all the gods are simply faces of him, right? So that is plausible.
05-23-2016 , 12:31 PM
The idea that Bran is going to be able to get away from the army of wights by having his sled towed along in the snow by that little girl before the dead manage to wight Hodor and break thru the door is stretching my suspension of disbelief more than anything else in any prior season.

Loved the scene where they look back and the dead are coming down the hall after them climbing on the walls and everything. Reminded me of a similar scene in Aliens when the xenos are quickcrawling along the walls and ceiling after the marines.


RIP Summer
RIP Hodor
05-23-2016 , 12:35 PM
Are we down to just Ghost from the direwolves now?
05-23-2016 , 12:37 PM
Ghost and the one Arya had who's been MIA since S1E2.
05-23-2016 , 12:42 PM
Littlefinger mentioned the Vale army was chilling out at Moat Cailin. Isn't that the Bolton home before they moved to Winterfell? Did they just completely abandon that place?
05-23-2016 , 12:44 PM
"We're going to build a fleet, I can tell you. The biggest fleet. The best fleet. "

Sounds like Donald Trump
05-23-2016 , 12:46 PM
Things are looking pretty dire for those Stark pets.
05-23-2016 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chopstick
The idea that Bran is going to be able to get away from the army of wights by having his sled towed along in the snow by that little girl before the dead manage to wight Hodor and break thru the door is stretching my suspension of disbelief more than anything else in any prior season.

Loved the scene where they look back and the dead are coming down the hall after them climbing on the walls and everything. Reminded me of a similar scene in Aliens when the xenos are quickcrawling along the walls and ceiling after the marines.


RIP Summer
RIP Hodor
I'm sure the writers/Martin realize that and conjure some kind of miracle to make it plausible Bran escapes, at least more plausible than randomly running away in the mist.
05-23-2016 , 01:08 PM
The wights make me think about TWD more and more and i don't like it.
05-23-2016 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
Littlefinger mentioned the Vale army was chilling out at Moat Cailin. Isn't that the Bolton home before they moved to Winterfell? Did they just completely abandon that place?
No. Moat Caitlin is the Castle that was taken by the Greyjoys and that Theon convinces to surrender to the Boltons. Not sure who owned it before the Greyjoys took it.

House Bolton's home is the Dreadfort - that is where Ramsey held Theon captive, etc.

      
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