^WHY would you say that?

Thanks for letting us know!

That lie to her brother makes no sense. She's trusting LF now? She could be sending them all straight into some sort of trap. Brienne must hook up with Tormund ffs

The Constant I'm guessing?

good episode but i dont think a name explanation is worth adding the stupid loop problem. If hodor just had sacrificed himself to save bran it would have been epic as well.

No. It would've just been like, damn r.i.p. hodor.

The way it played out was so much better, it was mind blowing.

"We're going to build a fleet, I can tell you. The biggest fleet. The best fleet. And Westeros will pay for it."

but then nobody would know why he's hodor, after bran wargs back in time and we see that he was once a relatively normal, fat young lad

that would be lame as ****

Yes!

I assumed sansa just didn't want to explain/embarrassed not that she didn't trust Jon or anything

I think we can conclude that the skeleton of the overall story has already been mapped out in GRRMs mind/notebooks and that this was part of it. As in, he knows how the dragons fare against the white walkers, but he has to flesh out all of Tyrions quips before he can finish releasing the books.

Think that was my favorite scene/moment so far in the show tbh.

seems like they could just have bran have a vision with another explanation

Where in the actual **** are Yara/Theon escaping to btw? Only thing I can think of is to help Sansa or something, but not sure it makes too much sense.

Rewatching now and the man that the children turned into a walker is the same actor that plays the Night King. So that was in fact him being created there (as opposed to a random walker).

The Iron Islands don't win anymore.

Lol, I was going nuts wondering why they were reliving that scene while the white walkers were attacking.

Well what do you know. Director of lost makes the holdor scene make no ****ing sense and full of holes. Who would have guessed?

Who was it ITT that correctly guessed the "hold door" thing last week?

Rewatch the ending. Bran controls holdor but bran doesn't do or say anything to holdor in the past or tell him to ever hold the door, he's just watching. It was the girl saying to hold the door. Holdor shouldn't be able to hear the girl saying that in the past so there is no reason holdor should be saying it

It involves a time loop paradox, it's not supposed to be able to make sense. It's been done in a ton of different movies and tv shows, usually more sci/fi based, but still, common trope.

I think the implication was that Brann was worging into his mind, implanting "hold the door" so hard it basically broke his brain, he didn't have to say it was happening all mental like.

Bran looks completely confused and has no idea what is going on to Holdor and why he's convulsing until the very end of it

the hodor origin story is legit amazing BUT i really do not want to see this show jump the shark with a bunch of time travel bull****. if these loops start to become the norm it will ruin everything. if it's a one-time magic bullet that the three-eyed raven had planned (which is how it seems), then ok.

i said after last episode that i predict some tension between sansa and john. now we have some sense of how that will unfold. if i had to guess, though, i would say LF is being on the level about Blackfish having taken Riverrun. he's counting on it getting him back into Sansa's good graces. but what twist might he have in mind? get word to the Boltons and set an ambush on the Tullys, only to then swoop in himself and save Sansa when they don't arrive? it's LF, there's no way he can just stand by and be like, alright cool sansa, good luck then.

Its just a bunch of mush thrown at the wall hoping it sticks. Exactly how lost was