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Originally Posted by Rooksx
Apart from arranging for the murder of the Starks?
and ordering his son to rape his underage wife.
murdering all the targaryen kids and their mama (or ordering such).
pretty sure there were some other war crimes too at some point, but not gonna go back and check.
the thing about tywin is he is not pointlessly cruel. he is probably even decent most of the time when he doesn't have reason not to be. (e.g. ordering the prisoners put to work rather than tortured at harrenhal and making arya his cupbearer.) but he is a cold hearted bastard who will do literally anything to crush his enemies and secure his "legacy."
so he is not the worst character on the show by a long stretch. in terms of evil / nastiness i would put LF, walder frey, both boltons, locke, cersei and obviously joffrey ahead of him. jamie gives him a run for his money too, especially with the sister-raping and whatnot. (and yes, i know it's kind of weird to say walder frey is worse than tywin for participating in a plot that tywin organized, but, yanno, laughing while his wife gets her throat slashed and all.)
i think the question of how tywin is rigging the jury is a really interesting one. it's true that tyrion is in many ways his most viable offspring at this point for purposes of inheriting casterly rock and generally not being a moron or too obsessed with ****ing his moron sister to do anything useful. but he also (correctly) senses that tyrion thinks most of his family are pieces of **** and that he can't really trust him, and he really needs to be able to pin the joffrey murder on SOMEBODY.
that, plus the apparent bribing of witnesses makes it seem like they plan for him to really take the fall.
which means to me that tywin is in on the plot. maybe not the whole plot - i still like my theory of LF being the hidden partner for olenna in a future double-cross of the lannisters - but i think it was his plan all along to have joffrey killed and make tyrion stand trial. the way the wedding played out with joffrey giving him even more obvious motive & opportunity was just a bonus.
what i'm still struggling with is why anyone needs to bring LF into this. if we go with the theory of tyrells bringing him in as a double cross on tywin, what do they gain from his involvement? what does he do that they can't do on their own? the sansa extraction? or maybe something additional still to come?