Is this guy really trying to play the victim here?

I never refused to allow you to find another backer and sell the debt. For the 20th time, you are free to find another backer and try to get that backer to pick up the debt. Go for it. You can even use me as a reference. I just won't lie to that person and say you're trustworthy with the stake.

If you have some sort of proof that I did and I'm simply blacking out that entire conversation I'd be legitimately shocked.

LOL nice.



While the scammer's attempts to dictate terms are amusing, they're not helpful. Just take him to small claims court, get a judgment, and be done with it.

Also go back and read those emails from 2011 and then chuckle at his statements in this thread. He plays the "I feel terrible and I'm so sorry" line perfectly.

Yet somehow over the last 2.5 years he's gone from "I owe you about ~1k and I feel terrible and I'm going to make this right" to "I owe you but it's only $235 even though I acknowledge owing you at least $900 and I'm not going to pay you any of it unless you meet my demands."

God I'm such a sucker. Ah well. Lesson learned.

Why do you feel that makeup shouldn't be paid back out of pocket?

I don't want to put words in her mouth, but, it seems pretty clear to me she has no problem with you selling the debt. It's the lying to your new backer part that she's objecting to.

If you owe her 235, why haven't you paid it?
If you only owe her 235 why would anyone pay her 900?

It's pretty clear you have no intention of ever paying her anything and only hoped you could somehow convince someone to buy-out the debt (how dumb would someone have to be to do that?) by getting her to lie and cover your ass. Now that that's fallen through you're just looking for some way to justify it all to yourself. While you may be so deluded as to convince yourself you're somehow the victim here nobody else is buying it.

honestly, because I made the enormous mistake of posting in 2p2 strat

extremely -ev to post strat

I honestly didn't think it mattered but it does, if you are any good at poker, you will either have trolls hanging all over you, ready to witch hunt you at the drop of a hat

daniel negraneu said the same thing in a post and I didn't listen

don't post in strat, it's -ev and the fish will troll you and do everything they can to trash you

most of them are/were teenagers living at home with their parents

do you want me to name all the posters in strat who actually were good at poker and gave great advice that were ultimately banned

the problem is that none of you guys up top actually play poker, or just don't play well enough

no winning players green or orange is a disaster but that's what it's coming to

Liar liar pants on fire.

Jeff Bennett of Maryland is a liar and a thief.

Jeff Bennett of Maryland is a liar and a thief.
Jeff Bennett of Maryland is a liar and a thief.
Jeff Bennett of Maryland is a liar and a thief.
Jeff Bennett of Maryland is a liar and a thief.
Jeff Bennett of Maryland is a liar and a thief.
Jeff Bennett of Maryland is a liar and a thief.

this is what happens when you post in strat and have irresponsible modding

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55...9/index28.html

all the players trolling in this thread are teenagers who lived at home with their parents when this thread came up, lo and behold I made 40K in poker over the next couple months

do you see how I should never have posted in strat

obv she doesn't want arb so 235 and I expect the matter to be closed and posts deleted

will pay her when I see her at casino

Nope, not deleting the posts. Will delete if/when I get all the money, although at that point I would make a single post in the negative feedback thread to protect other potential backers.

And since you appear to be hard of hearing I'll yell it this time:

DON'T TRY TO GIVE ME MONEY AT WORK I CAN'T ACCEPT IT ON THE CASINO FLOOR. DON'T APPROACH ME IN ANY MANNER OTHER THAN A CUSTOMER ASKING FOR A SEAT AT THE TABLE.

Christ on a crutch.

Wow I think I heard that all the way up in Mass

and you won't take down the accusations? so you are not only the accuser but judge jury and executioner, and the forum is OK with that

how long do you think this forum will last? it's already dying

you can email me the particulars on how you want to be paid, but I want to give you the money in person with a laptop so that I can watch you delete your garbage

mods using the forum as weapon ITT

bobo, please de-mod SGTRJ and save your forum

I'm not deleting anything.

Not the least of which because I can't - mods can't delete outside their own forum once the 30 minute edit window has elapsed - but even if I could I wouldn't, nor will I request anything be deleted until I'm paid every dime I'm owed.

If you refuse arbitration, then I expect the full amount. If you agree to arbitration, then obviously whatever amount is agreed by the arbiter, although I'd expect you to escrow at least $900 at the start so it could be paid out once he/she/they find in my favor.

Whatever money you have, I'll find a third party willing to transfer. To be honest, considering your constant lies and constant references to approaching me at work, I don't want to give you my address again, although on the off chance you still have it, as I already said,

JUST MAIL A CHECK.

FYP

Also, let's remember that via email you told me to go ahead a start a scammer thread and you yourself are the one who bumped this thread in ATF. What did you expect was going to happen? Or were you bluffing and didn't expect me to follow through?

Clearly you were deeply scared of my awesome mod powers.

If you wanted to avoid drama, perhaps you should have done what I asked you to do almost three years ago - keep in touch with me regularly and set up a payment plan. Even $20 a month. Had you made any good faith effort to keep in touch with me and pay me back this all could have been avoided.

Your martyr complex is really sort of fascinating from a psychological standpoint.

strong arming ITT

saw this scenario coming, if any other poster but a mod posts this garbage, it's deleted until resolved, if a mod does it, it stays up

pretty soon it will all be mods, just like I said in the OP

the answer is no

if you want arb, then take down accusations, if not then you get 235 and the matter is closed

how much fairer can it get? hell you might win arbitration, but why would I go through it if I'm already a scammer?

would have paid you the 235 immediately except that I knew then and know now that you will trash me in 2p2 either way, it's your favorite weapon

How much dumberer can you get?

I'm not strong arming anything or anyone.

You haven't paid me. From the emails it was obvious you weren't going to. So I decided to out you to the community.

There's no reason for me to take anything down whether we're in arbitration or not. The only reason to take it down would be because you've paid back the debt, which you refuse to do.

I know on some level this puzzles you, because you would do anything for a few bucks. That's why you lied and stole from me. I'm not willing to lie to a backer for you, and I'm not willing to lie by omission to allow you to use 2p2 to find a backer. Hence my version of events will remain up until you make good on your debt.

the debt is 235, when that's paid you take it down right?

side note to bobofett, seriously man, get this witch off the forums

not a single person likes her, people just stopped posting altogether, you lost a lot of traffic the moment she came aboard

she made serious but unfounded and untrue allegations against DogIsHead and that's why she's a mod, I think the forum lost a ton of credibility the moment she became mod. The first thing she did was edit and delete posts. She's a cancer on the whole operation. I'm not the only one that thinks this. If you put up a de-mod thread and put it to a vote, I doubt it would be close.

I shouldnt have handled it this way. I should have held my ground all the way. I'm a wimp but I'm not guitly

I like her but I'm not a single person. I'm engaged.

Isn't editing and deleting posts part of the job of a mod?

thanks guys

I love this forum as much as anyone and want to keep it going

will submit to arb if that's what's asked of me

lol, good job guys, thanks a lot

not addressing this thread at all, delete thread and make a new one with new title and I will present my case, otherwise I can't be bothered