Poker Stars $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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UTG: $614.00
CO: $724.45
Hero (BTN): $617.25
SB: $394.00
BB: $612.10

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with K Q
1 fold, CO raises to $24, Hero calls $24, SB calls $21, 1 fold

Flop: ($78.00) A 6 3 (3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $54, SB folds, CO calls $54

Turn: ($186.00) 6 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $126, CO calls $126

River: ($438.00) 3 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $413.25 all in


Sort of interesting bluff spot, might be std or might horrible, idk thats why im posting. Villain seems on the loose side of TAG preflop in the 50 hands ive played with him, nothing crazy postflop. We have no history. Im aware that Im only really repping A6s, quads, or a slowplayed AQ/AK, but what hands does a fairly ABC player check this flop, turn, and river with that can call a shove here? Im thinking he has AJ-A7 a lot of the time and QQ/KK most of the rest of the time.

I really don't like triple barreling there, Nate. In addition to repping a really narrow value range, both draws bricked off making it more likely you get snap called by a PP. I would expect him to call with any ace and 77/88+ and I wouldn't be terribly surprised if you got looked up by 44 or 55 either.

At my minileague NL100 this is always JJ-KK. Problem is that at my minileague they also always call the river bet even though they "shouldnt". Maybe they can fold better at NL600? Hope that helps.

Karp,
I agree with everything future doc said.

FutureDoc,
I think I check fold. Most of his bluffs have really good equity and he will check them back some percent of the time, but I think he bets a lot of his made hands.

FD,
I don't hate three barreling on that spot, but I don't really like it given the way the board comes out a lot of people will think you can't have an ace because it double paired and peoeple won't vbet that thin, every draw missed etc.

Thought on that triple barrel hand:

Does a smaller bet rep a wider range?

FD, your 3barrel hand...

heres a cop out, but it kinda depends.

Against someone who can hand read, i don't like it. Its too easy for him to convince himself that quads are really hard to make and then your only real hands are AQ or AJ.

Once he checks the flop, there are a TON of boards that we will be able to take advantage of and win the pot, but this is definitely as bad as it can come off.

The 2barrel is generally fine but I would just give up on the river.

ZOMG The Artist formerly known as Kärpänen folded a hand.

Villain is TAG, this is my second 3bet vs him in few hands. I felt like my equity against his raise-call range was pretty horrible and that he'd RAI most of his draws and I'd need to fold.

I quickly thought of CRAI my self but then quickly folded.

MB2105 ($104.78)
Firetribe ($117.15)
GiggleGirl ($100)
Great09 ($280.10)
ABXpoker ($101.95)

MB2105 posts (SB) $0.50
Firetribe posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe K A
fold, fold,
ABXpoker raises to $4
fold,
Firetribe raises to $14
ABXpoker call,

FLOP ($28.50) 9 J 8
Firetribe check,
ABXpoker bets $14
Firetribe folds

This is probably standard but I am a showdown monkey by heart.

Karp, yea thats completely fine. This flop nails his range so hard, its best to just give up.

Hope Im not killing any interesting debates by posting this many hands. Please tell me if that's the case and I'll tell you to go **** yourselves since I want to be a big black balla like Pudge before I reach my 30s.

Villain is 58/19/2.7. He seems to go to showdowns with mariginal holdings esp when he's on call-call-call mode. Not sure on his behaviour when he's the PF raiser. I dodnt want to 3bet PF since hell prolly call pretty wide and I'd be OOP etc.

Is my play too passive?



timur76 ($149.39)
Firetribe ($100)
TiliTuliTiliMeni ($178.20)
pogi45 ($104)
ChadTheMan24 ($33.04)
alice50 ($49.07)

timur76 posts (SB) $0.50
Firetribe posts (BB) $1

Dealt to Firetribe A Q
fold,
pogi45 raises to $4
fold, fold, fold,
Firetribe call,

FLOP ($8.50) 7 9 A
Firetribe check,
pogi45 bets $6
Firetribe calls $6

TURN ($20.50) 8
Firetribe check,
pogi45 bets $18
Firetribe calls $18

RIVER ($56.50) A
Firetribe check,
pogi45 bets $34
Firetribe calls $34

I'd 3 bet here Karp.
People might call a lot pf but fold a lot on flop in my yet small cashexperience.

I explained in the post that when Villain ends up to be the PF caller he's not folding much post flop and my hand isnt that strong. Dunno if that's the right reason NOT to 3bet but atleast your reasoning does not make sence.

AQ is ahead by his 19% range by a good bunch, no?
Also you will be OOP, I still think this is a pretty easy 3 bet in a cashgame.

What I've learned is that calling here PF is not a huge mistake if it is a mistake. We're past our preflop poker times. Please discuss on the rest of the hand too since I'm sure that there are bigger mistakes there.

raise the flop, rest looks good since that turn sucks so much. 3-bet preflop for sure, if he never folds to c-bets dont c-bet when you completely whiff.

villain is 28/22/1.7 for 128 hands. does anybody check behind on the flop? after my cbet is called should i fire a second barrell or just give up?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $84.25
SB: $86.70
BB: $100.00
Hero (UTG): $100.00
MP: $122.90
CO: $21.65

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with 6 6
Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($12.00) 8 9 T (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $10, SB folds, BB calls $10

Turn: ($32.00) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($32.00) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $26, Hero calls $26

I don't mind checking behind that flop, it hits a ton of their range for flatting in the blinds, no better hands fold and the worse hands that call(Jx and hearts) usually have a lot of equity against you.

FD - If he called the turn with 77-Ax, I think he's calling the river too much unless he's one of those guys that calls a lot of bets, but in the end says "i guess you really have it" and folds.

FD, i miss you a lot. come on aim plzzzzz

dipstik,

I would check back that flop just about always. 3way this board is likely to nail someone's range. If we hit a 7 i'll generally call one bet and fold to more.

As played, i guess we can call the river. He prob has JT, J9 just about always but whatever we have a straight too.

i love check/calling TPNK against aggro tards

These two hands happened back-to-back against the same villain. First hand maybe betting the turn was a bad idea but I decided to represent the flush and try to move him off a weak holding like a medium pair or a 5.


Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $100.00
UTG: $47.90
CO: $59.60
BTN: $61.15
Hero (SB): $111.65

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with K J
2 folds, BTN calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, BTN calls $4

Flop: ($11.00) 9 5 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $8, BTN calls $8

Turn: ($27.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $20, BTN calls $20

River: ($67.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Final Pot: $67.00
BTN shows 5s 4s (two pair, Nines and Fives)
Hero shows Ks Js (a pair of Nines)
BTN wins $65.00


Very next hand...

Does anybody man up here and value shove the river or is it prudent to check behind?



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SB: $99.00
BB: $47.90
UTG: $59.60
CO: $93.15
Hero (BTN): $78.65

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with J J
1 fold, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, CO calls $4

Flop: ($11.50) 5 6 T (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $8, CO calls $8

Turn: ($27.50) 4 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $20, CO calls $20

River: ($67.50) 7 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero...?

BB is 14/3/2.75 over ~60 hands and has a fold to cbet/call cbet/raise cbet % of 63/13/25.

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $60.30
UTG: $162.80
MP: $43.00
CO: $100.00
BTN: $98.65
Hero (SB): $117.10

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with J K
4 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) Q K J (2 players)
Hero bets $4, BB raises to $18, Hero pukes on keyboard

jbrochu,

i think we can check behind here, while i fully expect him to call with a T, i think theres too much **** that he has there that we're behind. so checksssssssssssss

jam all day, he doesn't even have a full buyin

I dunno about the first one without prior reads.

The second hand, with the read we now have, I shove for value.