I was blocking cause i was sure he would make PSB on the river and i really did not want to C/C that big to get to showdown.

At the time I really had no idea what the best line on the river was esp as I peeled the turn and the river is really a blank.

Maybe I should have taken the river line on the turn ?

I think your iso raise size is 2 small. I would make it $1.10 at a min and given how early you are I would see nothing wrong with $1.25. Guy is passive so I do not mind playing a bigger Pot IP against him.

River is a puke spot but I do not every see myself folding this, but it may be best since, every draw has just go there and I would expect to see more action from flopped sets/ 2 pair esp when u bet the Ace on the turn.

88 hand, bet turn, bet river...fold if he raises...as played fold. River is terrible for him to bluff.

misread the hand, thought hero checked river and he bet.

As played, I'd call the river shove cause he's loose, stupid aggro, and is repping a boat.

99 hand looks good if you call the river. You are getting too good of a price and he can definitely have worse hands.

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Hero (BB): $50.92
UTG: $28.59
UTG+1: $25.00
MP1: $18.73
MP2: $14.64
CO: $25.91
BTN: $13.25
SB: $21.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A A
4 folds, CO raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, CO calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.10) Q J K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.35, Hero LOL folds

CO is 17/11/5 over 106 hands, and I felted him earlier when we got it in on the turn with my nut straight vs his pair and NFD. I feel like a complete nit here, but his 3bet calling range has to be pretty tight, and this flop hits like all of it. He knows my 3bet raising range has got to be tight (hitting a LOT of this board as well), but he's still firing at this board. Is bet/fold better? And how does this range look...

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Board: Qs Js Kd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.973% 36.68% 02.30% 4357 273.00 { AcAs }
Hand 1: 61.027% 58.73% 02.30% 6977 273.00 { KK-JJ, AQs+ }

Yeah he may 4bet KK pre but I don't think I can completely rule it out. Am i an uber nit?

Seems fine. Tough fold to make, but I think it's good.

I doubt he bets AQ. Remove that from his range and ur equity goes down more.

Seems std. Have to assume he 4bets QQ/KK with at least some frequency. People love flatting AK IP to 3b so I'd expect him to show up a bunch here with AxKs but you're in trouble vs. the rest of his range.

Also given positions you can probably expand his range to include **** like KQ and AT depending on the villain

I'd have a lot tougher time folding if it were 6m.

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MP2: $26.17
CO: $17.75
Hero (BTN): $27.20
SB: $41.19
BB: $30.05
UTG: $25.00
UTG+1: $29.26
MP1: $21.76

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T T
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.05) 4 7 4 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $1.45, MP2 raises to $4.75, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

MP2 is 20/16/inf over 50 hands, but was tighter at the time of the hand, so fairly insignificant sample size. 3bet pre is probably standard but didn't have much on him at the time and he looked fairly tight, so I didn't want to just fold out everything I was crushing.

One strange stat was he only had 20% cbet flop but still small sample. Thoughts on not 3betting pre and on folding flop plz.

ugh TT is so tricky to play post flop. I'd normally 3b/fold pre just so I don't get into spots like these.

I'd fold flop now too but hate myself for playing it this way.

I don't really mind checking flop then c/c'ing a turn blank but ugh f TT

Yeah, it makes it somewhat tricky to just call, but what happens if I 3bet and he flats and this flop comes? Now what? I'm in a worse spot imo.

You can rep a stronger range when you 3b pre so you've got a bit more fold equity on the flop etc etc etc

You're betting this flop for protection and value but I don't think you can reasonably bet this flop as a bluff because even if you had 3-bet pre since it's not likely he's folding anything better.

You could check behind here and sometimes I would depending on reads.

As played I would probably call the flop and evaluate. It's a marginal spot but I think you're a little too strong to fold here with position and some people like making moves on these kind of flops. And it's kind of weird for him to c/r this flop as the PFR.

you don't want fold equity.

Jbrochu is probably right. And folding does feel weak. But, I don't mind the fold. With out knowing he's a spewtard, and without you having a history of messing with him ip, it seems that even if he's bluffing, you're still not in great shape against his range.

The problem now is that we can only credibly rep hands like 77/A4s/56s/88-JJ so we get blown off a lot of best hands.

My point with the fold equity comment is that the dynamic of the hand is a lot different if we 3b pre so you have more options on the flop.

FR 25nl plays so tight that 3b/cb is a super effective line vs. a lot of villains

lol. Blown off the best hand a lot at 25nl? Come on, think about your opponents. They are not thinking deeply about the strength of your range and pulling big moves to get you off pairs on paired boards.

Well, if they are calling a lot of 3bets and folding a lot of flops, then fine, 3bet TT. But, 3bet K7s, 75s, A5s, KTo, QJo, etc etc as well.

But, against a nittier opener who has a reasonable 3bet calling range oop, you are just manipulating his range such that it's not so favourable for TT.

I won't really disagree with this, but I've found that it's much easier to stack FR nits by playing a decent # of drawing hands (SCs, mid PPs, etc) in position vs their raises and allowing them to make a lot of big mistakes postflop when we hit...rather than going far with these types of situations. I just think that maybe 3betting and then getting away from it if he raises pre or post gives you a better understanding of whether you're folding the best hand...but it doesn't necessarily make more $$ imo. But I'm still highly in learning phase of FR cash.

sigh, I'm awful.

I don't mind the fold too readless. As DV said you are not in a great shape against his range.

His range looks like overs with FD,Axs,maybe SD,and ofcourse air,4x lol,or trappy QQ?? The bad point with calling flop raise is that u prolly will have to call a lot of turns or rivers if he c turn. U will get value towned by his strong range and not get much value from his air-weak range.

Correct me pls ;P

Villain is a Lose/Passive 40/0/0.3 over 40 hands.

Shove/Flat or fold the river.
I know my turn bet size sucks here.

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Hero (Button) ($34.28)
SB ($37.56)
BB ($23.90)
UTG ($94.71)
MP ($9.75)
CO ($37.16)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, 10
3 folds, Hero bets $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) Q, Q, J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.37, BB calls $1.37

Turn: ($4.84) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.80, BB calls $2.80

River: ($10.44) K (2 players)
BB bets $10.44 Hero is totally confused ?

The thing is if you believe he's only going to keep barreling his strong range then why do you have to get value towned?

If you think he will continue barreling with his air-weak range then how do you not get much value from that part of his range?

I really don't mind folding the flop either since calling puts us in a marginal spot and we don't know much about villain, but still I probably would call. And against some villains I would be turbo-mucking to any follow-up on the turn while against others I would be intending to close my eyes and probably call down on a lot of boards.

Against this villain at these stakes I probably would call the flop and fold if he bets the turn. (Because at the time hero played the hand he really had no reads regarding villains aggressiveness.)

Ger shoving river seems spewy. I think either call or fold, leaning toward a fold, and yeah I'd go bigger on both flop and turn. I also don't hate checking behind on flop, since two streets of value is usually the most you're going to get here imo, although betting might be mandatory since it's slightly drawy...but one of his draw cards may be very bad for him.

My point is that we lack reads,so we cannot know if villain barrels air or not. So if we call flop we cannot fold on just a blank turn to a normal bet readless right? So we will have to caldown hoping that his range is weighted towards air,but we can't be sure,so it is similar to reverse implied odds situation.

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MP2 ($21.70)
Hero (CO) ($30.51)
Button ($19.03)
SB ($3.98)
BB ($45.20)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($51.07)
MP1 ($42.49)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, 9
4 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) A, K, 5 (2 players)
BB bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.60) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB raises to $6.50, Hero calls $4

River: ($16.60) 10 (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero folds

Total pot: $16.60 | Rake: $0.83

Probably should've just folded turn (Baluga). Anyone call river? Villain is a 13/8/10 reg over 194 hands. I think he's checking weaker aces nearly always, and this is AK/55 a lot. But I have no idea what he's donking flop with, as he has to expect me to bet the flop with my entire range. Am I seeing monsters under the bed?