JJ b/f the flop I think.

KK hand I'd fold the river, but probably just 4 bet him pf and get it in then regardless of his stats.

It is one of those "a little ahead or a lot behind spots" and you're even a little behind hands like AdKd, but he rarely rarely has a straight, if he 3-bet you pre and then c-raise the flop with QQ+ I'm a monkeys uncle, the set hands don't all like to 3bet and aren't gonna wanna c-raise flop much. You are pretty far ahead of some hands like 89 and 78.

Pokerstove some ranges for him. I think it's a call.

I lose a fortune in this spot w JJ and worse w QQ. Every time I call, I lose unless it's a shortstack. I have now decided to fold here as a matter of policy, unless I have a very good reason not to. At 50nl and 100nl, anyone think I'm wrong?

The raise is so big it may be a fold. Maybe he has a set. Maybe, maybe he was so confident blackize would bet that he c-raised QQ+, But, you don't face this situation a lot because the 3 bettor not only doesn't c-raise a ton in general, he doesn't do it with a made hand on a drawy board that much, and in this case he almost never has the nuts.

Given no history it's really hard to justify this call. 20/14's with 4% 3 bet just don't make fancy check/raise river with air moves enough especially at 1/2. Your bet screams big hand or bluff. I doubt he looks at that bet and turns JJ into a bluff. Maybe my thinking is skewed but I don't think I have ever seen a nit reg bluff here.

DD is right on there. He's almost always gonna have an Ace or a pocket pair > 77 and he'll almost always just call river with 88-QQ.

I think he has AA here the vast majority of the time.

"******edly slowplayed" is a very common way to play poker.

I think you played the hand well, though unless he was really nitty I would probably go for two streets of value thinking JJ or QQ.

200BB max buyin.

Villain is 28/11/4 over 76 hands and folds 40% to C bets. My image might have been LAGgy. I've been at this table for maybe 20 hands or so I think. The rest of the hands I had on him were mined.

$50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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CO: $143.05
BTN: $52.25
SB: $73.00
Hero (BB): $116.30
UTG: $100.05
MP: $98.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with K A
UTG raises to $2.05, 4 folds, Hero raises to $7.40, UTG calls $5.35

Flop: ($15.05) 4 5 A (2 players)
Hero bets $11.50, UTG calls $11.50

Turn: ($38.05) J (2 players)
Hero bets $27.00, UTG raises to $54

He has 27.15 left in his stack now.

Folds 40% to cbet is really low, right?

I might have gone for check-call on the turn since he has crap a lot and will bluff at least once.

As played, I dunno, he's definitely committed and it looks like something you'll call. Looks like AJ, JJ, 44 or 55. It's tempting with the price you're getting, but I think it's a fold without a better read.

cha, i gotta go to sleep - get on AIM and gimme results!

cha,

You've represented AK and now he's made a raise sized to keep AK in the pot. I would fold.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
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MP: $5.00
CO: $25.00
Hero (BTN): $16.10
SB: $40.65
BB: $39.80
UTG: $8.45
UTG+1: $23.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with K K
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 2 Q J (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1, Hero calls $1, SB calls $1

Turn: ($5.25) 6 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, SB folds

River: ($10.25) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

Final Pot: $14.75
Hero shows K K (a pair of Kings)
BB shows Q T (a pair of Queens)
Hero wins $14.05
(Rake: $0.70)

Way too passive? Villain 46/7 over 26 hands.

DD,

omg. Raise flop, get it in on turn.

Yeah, don't play much cash. Meh.

At 25nl, it's also good to just shove flop - the draws will call and any Q, sometimes AJ comes along too!

Microbet's more correct, but you can mix in this too.

I regretfully agree. But, I wouldn't have bet the turn against a guy that doesn't fold any piece of any flop. I would have c/c, or checked it through on the turn and bet the river.

You don't wanna bet the turn against a station with tptk?

Hmmm....going back I see that his stats are more of a station. I thought he was more taggy when I first read the hand. Against a tag that doesn't fold a lot of flops, I like to induce from their floats more often.

Against this guy, I'd just bet bet bet...ur right.

well it is a small sample, so we don't really know, but his af is 4, so i don't think we can call him a station. i like c/c turn myself.

So what are you vb on this board? Sets and AJ?

AK def has value. The question is, how often is he just calling the cbet to make a play because he doesn't give credit to cbets, and how often does he have a piece and will call down.

Maybe you're right though and with the preflop being 3bet and all and an Ace flopping, he's much less likely to make a move on the turn with air, which means that we should bet for value.

In general though, people who don't fold to cbets should more often be left to hang themselves when you have a piece or rebluffed when you don't.

Did I lose money here?


Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MP: $57.40
Hero (CO): $88.35
BTN: $70.30
SB: $17.20
BB: $10.00
UTG: $53.60

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($6.50) 8 2 T (3 players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $41, BTN calls $41, SB calls $13.70 all in

Doh! In my multitabling frenzy, I didn't notice that BTN called, so I wildly raised enough to put SB all-in

Turn: ($103.70) Q (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero bets $45.35 all in, BTN calls $27.30 all in

Well, it's all got to go in now!

River: ($158.30) J (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: $158.30
Hero shows Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
BTN shows A 3 (a flush, Ace high)
SB mucks 6 T
BTN wins $105.75
BTN wins $49.55
(Rake: $3.00)

So I screwed up by not paying attention. But ... didn't the Q save me? If I'd played a proper line, all the money was going in anyway, so surely I got lucky and my mistake didn't lose any sklansky bucks, just real money - which doesn't count!

Hmmm non-poker player says "You got unlucky, he had the flush"

Me, I say "Yippeeee! I got rescued by the turn ...."

This is a bizarre way to make a living!

Hello. My name is Danny and I'd like to be a cash player.

Villain is 15/15 at this point over about 25 hands and has pretty aggressive postflop so far. Is calling the flop the best? And what should I do on the turn? Many thanks.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP) ($100)
CO ($107.80)
Button ($121.75)
SB ($66.70)
BB ($145.05)
UTG ($114.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J, J
UTG raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, 4 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 9, 4, 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($20.50) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $14,

Dan, I'd call the flop and raise the turn. If you raise the flop you end up getting it in against AdQx or something too often while on the turn you might still get it in against those but you have better equity.

Thanks for the response Blackize. Having had a think about this hand I actually now think the turn is a fold as played. Even if he is double barrelling quite often with no diamond (no reason to think this is that likely), his made flushes, sets and overpairs make his range strong enough that our equity is really pretty crappy and a fold is probably better than a call hoping for a free showdown and definitely better than raising to get it in.

Given your read and how under-repped your hand is, I think folding here is really really really bad.