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05-15-2016 , 09:28 AM
Its sunday, its scoop and every single splash sunday mil sattie has 1 seat gtd. Are you actually serious? I think every other sat also have ridic gtds
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05-15-2016 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
Hey Luke, here's my thoughts on the best few... grander suggestions from the thread.

1) Reintroduction of Cubed tournaments with their own Cubed label. You know... I don't even understand why these formats are popular. To me they are just another name for Deep. But yet, they are. And because they are, there is a great opportunity to create a standardized format that offers something a bit different. With the rake revisions, these formats are no longer bad for Pokerstars, and because of the equal costs of rebuys and addons, they aren't unfair to recs who just toss in one bullet.

As we sit here and try to flesh out the depth of the schedule, having different variations will make the schedule more interesting than having insert random $11fo here across the board. Cubed helps us add more 'normal' tournaments without them all just being the same vanilla.

You don't even need to start out with a grand deployment. Test out 2 or 3 in spots across the day. Here's a few spots perhaps:

5:10 $11 Cubed
7:20 $5 Cubed
10:15 $2 Cubed
14:35 $1 Cubed
20:35 $5 Cubed

2) Reintroduction of the Sunday 6max OR introduce the Sunday Scuffle. There isn't a lot to say here. Sunday can support a major 6max event and there is a weakness in the offerings after the Big 215. Either of these options would nicely fill that space out.

3) Consideration and deployment of payout suggestions as outlined in satellite84's post. You said you were contemplating multiple payout tables and there you go.

The idea is simple. Larger payouts in events like BIGs, Majors, COOPS. Flatter payouts in formats like turbos, hypers, and quick side mtts.

The idea I feel one of those ideas that is great for Stars and great for players. By revising payouts for specifically large, slow fields, you can bring back the excitement of big first place payouts. Part of the job of MTT's is to get peopled logged on and into the Stars client, right? Dreaming of the big payday has always been one of the strongest draws in the gambling business.

But, by keeping current, more diffused payouts for all the of the faster formats, you keep the money circulating through the system as you want. You still get players winning more often and less players feeling like they never win.

I think drafting multiple payout structures based on prestige and speed of the tournament is a great alteration for all parties.

Cheers
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05-15-2016 , 11:14 AM
I still don't get why the label "bigger" was dropped. this was an essential part of sundays and the name does make a huge difference.
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05-15-2016 , 11:18 AM
Sooooo, it's Sunday night and I should be excited to log into Stars and fire up a bunch of MTTs. Well I'm not. I'm currently regged into 13 MTTs and only 1 of them is a Stars MTT. Wtf.
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05-15-2016 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Karedog
Its sunday, its scoop and every single splash sunday mil sattie has 1 seat gtd. Are you actually serious? I think every other sat also have ridic gtds
Its the same as previous week, all sats (except the 27 and 82 deadline) have 1 seat gtd, cant believe it. You want to attract a lot of players to series like the scoops i imagine. Part of them dont want to spend 215 for a single tournament, so 11-22$ buyin with 25-50 seats would easily be filled i assume.

Dont understand why the bigger has gone either, the name should attract more players on a sunday than just a big. GTDs are different ofc, but the name should change too to emphasize it again.
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05-15-2016 , 11:54 AM
you guys don't have the data
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05-15-2016 , 11:55 AM
If you are going to call a tournament the "Mini Sunday Million", it should have the same structure as the Sunday Million. The Sunday Million has 20 minute blind levels but the mini has 12 minute blind levels. The Mini Million should be a cheaper version of the Milly, with the exact same structure, so people that don't have the bankroll to play the Milly can play a cheaper version. I registered the Mini-Million but as soon as I checked out the structure I unregistered.
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05-15-2016 , 12:34 PM
Even though the new schedule is probably improved on weekdays compared to the previous one, I find Sundays to be extremely dull and un-exciting (or whatever the word is). I used to be mega pumped for certain tours etc, now there are barely any tours that are exciting or special for a Sunday. Might as well have been any other day with slightly higher guarantees. There are also fewer tournaments with attractive figures up top.

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05-15-2016 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
If you are going to call a tournament the "Mini Sunday Million", it should have the same structure as the Sunday Million. The Sunday Million has 20 minute blind levels but the mini has 12 minute blind levels. The Mini Million should be a cheaper version of the Milly, with the exact same structure, so people that don't have the bankroll to play the Milly can play a cheaper version. I registered the Mini-Million but as soon as I checked out the structure I unregistered.
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05-15-2016 , 12:58 PM
Mini mill has mill structure, mill only has scoop deep structure now :S
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05-15-2016 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
If you are going to call a tournament the "Mini Sunday Million", it should have the same structure as the Sunday Million. The Sunday Million has 20 minute blind levels but the mini has 12 minute blind levels. The Mini Million should be a cheaper version of the Milly, with the exact same structure, so people that don't have the bankroll to play the Milly can play a cheaper version. I registered the Mini-Million but as soon as I checked out the structure I unregistered.
The Sunday Million has 15 minute levels, and I don't see why they have to be identical; the mini-million gets more runners and already starts 1 hour later, you want it to finish at 10am the next morning?
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05-15-2016 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
Mini mill has mill structure, mill only has scoop deep structure now :S
And there is a $27 version of this event for the Low guys with 15 min blinds starting at the same time... some of you people really do love to complain, eh?
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05-15-2016 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by theMBK
The Sunday Million has 15 minute levels, and I don't see why they have to be identical; the mini-million gets more runners and already starts 1 hour later, you want it to finish at 10am the next morning?
It's not my problem if you don't have time to play a regular MTT. Play a turbo instead ffs.
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05-15-2016 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
It's not my problem if you don't have time to play a regular MTT. Play a turbo instead ffs.
So play the $27 200K... and stop acting like a tourney with 12 minute blinds is even remotely similar to a turbo.
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05-15-2016 , 02:16 PM
anybody getting lag?
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05-15-2016 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by satellite84
So play the $27 200K... and stop acting like a tourney with 12 minute blinds is even remotely similar to a turbo.
Thanks. What about next week? Will the Mini Million have the same structure as the Milly? If not, my opinion still stands.
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05-15-2016 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
anybody getting lag?
ofc, shocking huh?
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05-15-2016 , 02:45 PM
yeh lagging pretty hard now every 5minutes
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05-15-2016 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
Thanks. What about next week? Will the Mini Million have the same structure as the Milly? If not, my opinion still stands.
Next week will also be SCOOP with a special edition Milly... so no... it won't... but there will be a $27 next week as well.

And again, acting like playing a $22 tourney with 12 minute blinds is playing a turbo is ridiculous... lots of smaller versions of events have different structures to accommodate larger field sizes. Of all the stupid things Stars has done lately, you've picked one of the logical things to piss and moan about. I mean... god damn, Joe Rogan!
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05-15-2016 , 03:02 PM
i think give $320 6m 5k+ starting stack
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05-15-2016 , 03:24 PM
To bring back rebuys they need to rake recreational players less and regs the same. By having lower rake for recs more of them will join the rebuys which will soften the fields. This is especially true for satellites.
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05-15-2016 , 03:48 PM
been lurking this thread for a while. jus t wanted to make a account wondering why the hell the phase 2 tourney didnt pop up for almost 10 minutes. was kinda ****ing weird.

Also im a rec player with probably the worst sharkscope in this thread and i think the payouts are garbage. the 2016 recreational isnt the 40/2/1 whale anymore. they still exsist but im the 2016 rec. the dude that plays some amount but doesnt study the game and tilts, but also isnt completely ignorant.
some of the things happening isn't making players like myself keep respect for stars or all that happy. ive only been around since jan 2014 but im pretty sure the average rec was aware that huds existed then. if the average ****teir rec is aware huds exist do you really think we dont look at the paytables?

ive been playing alot less since the pay-table changes because i dont want to mincash for 1.3x with the minuscule chance i have at binking something worth significantly less then before. christ sake in the mini kickoff today you had to place in the top 4.38% to double your buyin. seriously? i hope we can reach some kind of compromise with these. or ideally just revert back to the old ones because this is ridiculous.

i will give you credit for making the structures alright again even if its to my detriment even someone like me who benefits from the structures being kinda ****ty wants to feel like he can play pots. its gonna be a hell of alot harder to attract new players with smaller guarantees and prize pools then ever AND all the regs talking **** about the site. Ayama seriously needs to learn to care about their reputation especially with online poker receding as much as it is.
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05-15-2016 , 03:58 PM
Hot 11
Field: 7538
Itm: 1196
342nd player got: 19.53$

I know that new payouts are here to stay and i can take it. But it DO NOT WORK for big fields, stars have to work on it.
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05-15-2016 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by satellite84
Next week will also be SCOOP with a special edition Milly... so no... it won't... but there will be a $27 next week as well.

And again, acting like playing a $22 tourney with 12 minute blinds is playing a turbo is ridiculous... lots of smaller versions of events have different structures to accommodate larger field sizes. Of all the stupid things Stars has done lately, you've picked one of the logical things to piss and moan about. I mean... god damn, Joe Rogan!
You may see it as moaning but what I'm doing is explaining why I am not playing it. If Stars sees the numbers drop and they wonder why, then they will have a list of reasons in this thread if they are interested at all. Yelling at me isn't going to change anything. If I don't like the structure, I'm not going to play it. If they want to call a tourney a "Mini", it should have the same structure as its parent tourney.
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05-15-2016 , 04:33 PM
The problem is if the mini million had the same structure as the million then many people would skip it as it would play until the sun comes up. There is no way to please all parties in this instance.
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