liked it!!

It was 22BB average in last 19 not 28 as rounder said.

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Was excited to play today, but there is still no improvement in the structures or anything. Will it take as long for things to come back to normal as it did for this AMAZING schedule to be released?

How can a big be canceled wtf

Pretty obvious what is happening. NLHE vanilla is slowly getting the same treatment the cubed and rebuy tournament got two years ago.

Remember the 55r? 55c, 33q, 109q? The gtd got cut until nobody wanted to register those tournaments. Those tournaments died. Pokerstars rep told us that the rebuy format was dying and the cubed and quad format were suffering. Now the 55r and 22r has magically reappear when the rebuy and addon are raked.

Now it's the vanilla's turn. Every tournament now is a turbo. The only difference is that while people are registering, the regular tournaments now are...regular.

Consider this, the Sunday marathon yesterday lasted 9 hours and 15 minutes with 1.420 runners. Remember, the late registration is three hours. How is that a slow structure? The sunday kickoff had 1.461 runners and it lasted 9 hours and 23 minute. Big 27 yesterday? 1.617 runners and 8 hours and 20 minutes. Big 44? 1.894 runners, 8 hours and 15 minutes.

The bounty builders are the same but the nature of it's format is more eliminations and higher average stack. The play is better. More and more players are going to register the bounty builders and skip the bigs. There is a KO poker tab at the top for crying out loud.

And the Pokerstars rep will say that people are moving away from vanilla.

Sad sad times.

God I missed the bigger tourneys yesterday.

that last post sure did make me sad I really miss the quads and cubes.

Also, Luke, I believe you made a point earlier that the bigs got a quicker structure because you believe that giving it the same structure as the BBs made them too similar?

"I want our brands to have some different defining features. I think it would be a bit boring if the Bigs and Bounty Builders were completely the same aside from the progressive element. I wanted to give each brand some flavor where possible."

Surely, the BB being a KO sets itself apart from the other 2 enough that even if it had the same structure as the bigs it would be incredibly different still. Then you have a hot (turbo) and a big (slow). That is the best way to keep those three tourneys unique from eachother! Currently, we have the hots (turbo) and the bigs (almost turbo). Please add those extra levels back to the bigs so that these 3 tourneys can all be awesome again. If you guys are hellbent on speeding up tourneys, at least make every other big like the old bigs. As it is now, you've changed the big structure to make it unlike the bounty builder but in the process you've made it more like the hot than it ever was like the bounty builder...

The antes from the start with 5k stacks is a great change btw, so are the minis.. thanks.

Would someone mind explaining what exactly "vanilla" tournaments are?

Freezeout with 3-5k starting stack and 10-12m levels. No big ante 50k starting stack rebuy KO 8max action hour.
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It's so simple

Hot = fast tournament
Big = normal tournament
Deep = slow tournament
BB = normal tournament with PSKO factor, also available as turbo.

Can we get bigger antes in sonic?

The first prizes in all majors last night were garbage considering the number of runners

No gimics

And ye noticed the antes in the sonic went from 20% to 10% what's up with that.

http://prnt.sc/azf6yh
OOPS!!!

Luke, great job until now... Where is your post with the new changes?

this is exactly what is happening. trying to move people to higher raked games, higher variance games. dont fall for it. stop regging hypers, we need to take a stand with these Big structures.

lol i cant beleive luke is iweargoggles jeso, were being ****ed in the ass by one of our own i know hes prob just a pawn in this game. hopefully you guys take a look at some of the 100 x repeated points over this week for this week coming. i mean a big not running is surely a pretty big sign something isnt right???

should select a few grinders that play loads on stars at all stakes to relay all the the blurb in this thread as mentioned by european imho.

the amount of repeat posts and people saying the same thing everyday is accompolshing nothing

rep for the players ftw #rounder

Some of you should wake up and face the music that poker just isn't as popular as it once was five to ten years ago. All sites seem to being trying to find ways to create and structure "new" formats directed towards the average recreational grinder.

It's a shame some of your high edge games are getting cut in the process but they also just are not as popular with the masses as many of these "new" and/or faster variations.

It's very reasonable to complain that rake is too high in turbos or that rebuys should not be raked, etc but you are living in some sort of denial if you think it's all PokerStars pushing players to PSKO type tourneys, hypers, spin and gos, etc. THESE ARE THE GAMES THAT THEIR AVERAGE CUSTOMER WANTS TO PLAY!!!! .......geez

the funny thing about the big getting cancelled is not that the recs didn't find the game or something, but that there are not even 16~18 grinders on stars anymore who reg this pre.

this has to change luke. by simply making these be longer levels already. its funny cuz i just counted levels in scoops and its the same number of levels from bb2k to bb10k but they are obv 20 mins. make the bigs come closer to the feel of those. pelase

yeah end of tournaments real pitts

I'm a microstake recreational MTTer. Supposedly, all those changes target players like me.

I used to play:
$2-$9 Freeze outs
$1-$4 rebuys/quads
$2-$9 Bigs/Bounty Builders
$1-$4 turbos

I have only cut the turbos, because I refuse to play a hyper (4 min level) with 10% rake.

This is what I can grind this days, including "deeps", bigs, bbs, rebuys and freeze outs

http://imgur.com/sjURoBx

GG Amaya

please add 1k Sunday_Grand replay to lobby.
(to make poker more popular obv)

Don't get me wrong. I love PSKOs. What I don't like is Pokerstars shoving it down our throats and letting the vanilla poker die slowly. If gtd's are constantly being lowered, the play deep is shove or fold and the KO poker is constantly promoted, no wonder the bigs will die.

Where did all vanilla small stakes tourneys go? Theres nothing from 5-33$ left. I dont believe this bull that theyre dying and have to be replaced with turbos and bounty builders. Do you really not think recs want to sit down after a day of work, open up stars, nit it up and play a familiar form of poker? For small stakes vanilla tourneys theres other sites at least, but bigs were fun, seem **** now... Also where the hell are all sunday million 3x satellites? There used to be like 1 every hour, havent seen any today theres only 1 coming up at 23:00 CET wtf? They always used to run, never an overlay...