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07-03-2009 , 01:09 AM

#101

T_Mac

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,939

1D, 1 time?

07-03-2009 , 01:18 AM

#102

sketchy1

banned

Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8,338

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobbo

Can't Nguyen em all.

i kinda lol'ed at that one

07-03-2009 , 01:38 AM

#103

DickFuld

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,113

So basically seems like all the people on the interwebs are playing day 1a? That's cool...

07-03-2009 , 01:55 AM

#104

Zpaceman

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 639

Day 1A Amazon Orange 85 Seat 7

I figure after going 1/21 here in Vegas (and even the 1 being a mini-cash), I've saved up all my run good for the Main Event. Not even nervous or excited, just ready...

Regarding Timex's question about expectation, I'd expect my deep-stack MTT poker skills to be in the Top 10% of the field and for that to translate into 100-200% long-term ROI given the structure. So, yes, the ~100th best player (who is better than me) is likely to have 300%+ long-term ROI.

The problem is that no player can ever get anywhere close to their long-term expected ROI in their lifetime. You might get to play 50 times maximum and even a good player might cash only around 10 times. With an average field size of 8000 players only a few of your lifetime cashes will likely be in the Top 100 and you have a significantly less than average chance of ever making the Final Table.

Nevertheless, I'm confident that I'm binking it this year

07-03-2009 , 02:35 AM

#105

Gags30

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,430

day 1a amazon red 127 seat 8...

07-03-2009 , 03:55 AM

#106

randominternet2345

Guest

Posts: n/a

seems like choosing to play sunday was a wise move. amazon orange 69 ftw. I am now a lock to draw an insane table that doesn't break. gl guys

07-03-2009 , 04:27 AM

#107

technologic

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,049

NLHE MS/HS cash game players have a better ROI in this than most mtters, imo.

07-03-2009 , 04:35 AM

#108

technologic

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,049

and i'm pretty sure any competent player has like 200%+ ROI in this softie tournament

07-03-2009 , 05:59 AM

#109

charder30

formerly known as zj123

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 27,428

Quote:

Originally Posted by technologic

NLHE MS/HS cash game players have a better ROI in this than most mtters, imo.

doubtful

edit: if theres one tournament where Tourney Donks > good Cash game players in terms of ROI in a certain tourney, id say its this one. Sure there fundamentals are not as good, but they deal with these donks all the time and generally dont spew as much which is something that you shouldnt be doing early in this tourney with the infinite clowns.

07-03-2009 , 06:06 AM

#110

Scary_Tiger

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 21,487

Quote:

Originally Posted by charder30

The argument for the cash game players is that this tournament plays incredibly deep. It is not a push/fold sort of tournament for the vast majority of play.

07-03-2009 , 06:18 AM

#111

$niper

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 227

gl to everyone!!!

07-03-2009 , 06:22 AM

#112

slicknastyAK

charder30's #1 fan obv

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,768

day 1d brazilia 200 seat 2

07-03-2009 , 07:06 AM

#113

w33ktight

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,320

Quote:

Originally Posted by swd805

great quote, wheres it from?

elements of poker

07-03-2009 , 07:08 AM

#114

JasonInDallas

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 6,898

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobbo

Can't Nguyen em all.

07-03-2009 , 07:20 AM

#115

ilushan

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 615

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gags30

day 1a amazon red 127 seat 8...

Wow, I decided to read the thread to find someone at my table. It was clearly an absurd idea, but whatever... I'm at the same table with you, in Seat 1. GL, but don't raise like every button

07-03-2009 , 09:58 AM

#116

Kevmath

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 28,242

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSUcougar

Hmm so you're saying it might be a problem if I'm flying in Saturday evening and hoping to register and play 1D?

Day 1D should have the most players of the 4 days, so they may "close" registration for 1D, hoping to add more people to Saturday and Sunday, then reopen registration late Sunday afternoon.

Last year's entrants:

July 3 - 1297
July 4 - 1158
July 5 - 1928
July 6 - 2461

Last edited by Kevmath; 07-03-2009 at 10:06 AM.

07-03-2009 , 10:18 AM

#117

sheetsworld

veteran

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,811

Useless post #2....

Completely generalized and useless profile of each day 1:

a.Day 1A: People who have been there for 6 weeks and wanna get the hell out of dodge if they lose.

b.Day 1B:People who work who fly in Friday and play Saturday. Also people who might be predisposed to have no respect for the July 4 holiday. (British,Muslims, etc)

c.Day 1c: People who want to avoid playing online sundays or avoid the people who do play online sundays...also Sabbath observers and people who got so smashed Friday night after getting into town that they couldnt make it to reg on Sat.

d.Day 1d:People who want to spend the least amount on hotel rooms, people with families, people who enjoy the holiday weekend in general.

07-03-2009 , 11:28 AM

#118

VectorWega

banned

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 577

What is the best way to follow the main event? What options are there? Does following it live ruin the TV broadcast? Should I just wait for the TV broadcasts (which will be seemingly years in the future)? Please advise. 2+2, you're my only hope.

Also, I agree that the title on this thread should be changed to somehting more eye catching.

07-03-2009 , 11:29 AM

#119

Todd Terry

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 16,301

Doug/Scary_Tiger are right, Charder has no idea what he's talking about IMO. This is the best tournament of the year for cash players, because it involves more postflop play than any other tournament due to the awesomeness of its structure.

07-03-2009 , 11:43 AM

#120

FancyAburger

banned

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 740

I forgot 4 names: Thorladen, tbt, Doug Kim and Doug Lee. They will replace two Gazeses and Dan Shak and Grossboro780...

07-03-2009 , 11:59 AM

#121

auchipod

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,488

Quote:

Originally Posted by timex

Someone with >1k posts on 2+2 is winning it

+1

a Random top five for highest 2+2 finishes would be in no particular order

Charder
Bakes
Stevepa
Jurollo
iweargoggles

imo

07-03-2009 , 12:08 PM

#122

FancyAburger

banned

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 740

timex just encouraged me to spam 300 posts more before the July 6th

07-03-2009 , 12:17 PM

#123

Body Man D

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,993

Will be sweating from home due to being somewhat real life busto. gla, jealous etc.

Hopefully at least 1 or 2 of you make the FT for my sweating pleasure.