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04-25-2013 , 06:29 AM
any plans for on demand 180 turbo ?
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04-25-2013 , 08:56 AM
Baard has already indicated that they are likely to at least trial on demand MTTSNGs

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19.../#post37235754

From one of his later posts, it seems that waiting for the functionality seems to be the main obstacle.
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04-25-2013 , 01:59 PM
Hello all,

I am going on vacation for a week+, so Steve will reply in this thread in my place. However, because of the player meetings, this weeks post might be a bit late.

Thanks,
Baard
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04-29-2013 , 05:38 PM
Baard will be back at the start of next week. Hopefully he'll review the threads on Monday and post on Tuesday. If not, I'm sure he'll be in here soon after.

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Originally Posted by I_Am_No_Doctor
Hyper SNGs 18 man looks like a sure money maker for Stars (6 max & 9 max).

The few satellites that use this format (Storm) are usually always running.
Pretty much everything that we run would run more if we moved just that format to hyper. If we moved everything, though, it wouldn't be so pretty. We'll keep reviewing, but for now we'll leave the 18s alone.

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Originally Posted by KorbenRyan
Appreciate the concerns about fracturing the player pool leading to longer waiting times for games going off etc. But as there is a clear demand for multi table hypers why not streamline your current offerings to create room for the new tournaments.

Something like:

Turbo- 18s, 45s and 180s only
Regular- 27s and 90s only
Hyper- 36s (6max) 54s (9 max)

The regular speed player pool seems the most fragile so having 27s and 90s makes more sense because they would go off faster than waiting for a 45 or 180 to fill. Clearly an argument could be made for keeping 45s and 180s as they have more demand currently but if so remove the 27s and 90s to concentrate the player pool.

The turbo pool only suffers with the removal of the lowstakes 90s and those players have a choice of switching to 45s or 180s.

If you think that existing demand calls for different specifics then fair enough but the only way you're going to prevent the player pool from fracturing is by removing less popular options while keeping up with market demand for new tournament types.

Buy in levels could be kept in line with the current structure.
You're right that in the long run, less popular options will need to be removed while keeping up with market demand for new tournament types, unless we grow the site enough to support additional types as needed.

We will likely do this gradually, however, rather than in one big change. We want to keep the shock to the existing player base as minimal as possible. Players don't like logging into the site to find that their favorite tournament is gone. To find that overnight they have gone from multiple choices to no buy-in options for their preferred combination of speed and size might be a bit much.

I do appreciate the thought you've put into your proposal.

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Originally Posted by I_Am_No_Doctor
I think the opposite would happen. PokerStars would take a short hit on profits if they were to offer many types of SNGs, but the regs would adapt to other games to restock their volume level.

This would actually create more volume for PokerStars later on since more games are being played by the regs, giving rec players more options to play instantly.

With 3rd party apps (free AHK Windows Placemint), regs can sort and place different games depending on blinds, poker sites, speed, game type, ...., on their screen.

MTT players have been doing this for the longest time by combining different games, blind types, poker sites, and buy ins and still generating a profit.

Can't see why SNG players can't adapt as well.
The time it takes for tournaments to start is a key factor in keeping Sit & Go tournaments attractive for both regulars and recreational players. This is the main reason we do not split liquidity; we want to keep players grouped up as much as possible so that games start quickly.
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05-02-2013 , 03:29 PM
Doubt many people ITT care about this, but the $6 45s and $11 180s (non turbo) appear to have disappeared? Is this deliberate?
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05-02-2013 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Doubt many people ITT care about this, but the $6 45s and $11 180s (non turbo) appear to have disappeared? Is this deliberate?
this. Want the $6 45 man back. I assumed it was dropped because it wasn't popular enough?
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05-02-2013 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Doubt many people ITT care about this, but the $6 45s and $11 180s (non turbo) appear to have disappeared? Is this deliberate?
ya i was always reggin for the 11$ 180 but they never ran. maybe 2 would pop off on Sunday but that was about it :S
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05-06-2013 , 11:15 AM
Hi everyone

I wonder what your thoughts are on having antes earlier in play. I think the structure is OK for the $3.5r 180m sngs, but in the turbo freezeouts, I think it would not be bad to have the antes earlier.
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05-06-2013 , 11:59 PM
What do you think about changing the $35 180s to $27s, making them in line with step tickets.

I rarely play the 35s, just 15s and lower but I think I'd play a lot more of them if they were more of a gradual step up from the 15s + in line with step tickets.

In a similar vein, I wonder if the $6 45s people want back would run any better being a $7.50/step 1...

Last edited by huesos; 05-07-2013 at 12:02 AM. Reason: related thought
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05-07-2013 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Giodude19
Hi everyone

I wonder what your thoughts are on having antes earlier in play. I think the structure is OK for the $3.5r 180m sngs, but in the turbo freezeouts, I think it would not be bad to have the antes earlier.
I would love to have antes earlier for freezouts.
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05-07-2013 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBubbleBoy
requesting 180man $8 rebuys as well as like $75 dollar 180s



i also agree with this statement about leaderboards
def yess
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05-08-2013 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by huesos
What do you think about changing the $35 180s to $27s, making them in line with step tickets.

I rarely play the 35s, just 15s and lower but I think I'd play a lot more of them if they were more of a gradual step up from the 15s + in line with step tickets.


In a similar vein, I wonder if the $6 45s people want back would run any better being a $7.50/step 1...
I think this is an excellent idea. If people could use step tickets to enter there would be more soft players in them and I reckon the lower step SNGs would be more popular as people would try and get into $27 180s.

(Please correct me if you can only use step tickets for the next step, this wasn't how it used to work on FTP)
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05-08-2013 , 09:02 AM
I would like to have some timebank added at the final table. Not much, maybe 5-10 seconds, just to make sure I have some extra time to think over a decision when it matters most.
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05-09-2013 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Giodude19
Hi everyone

I wonder what your thoughts are on having antes earlier in play. I think the structure is OK for the $3.5r 180m sngs, but in the turbo freezeouts, I think it would not be bad to have the antes earlier.
I think antes from the start in every single form of SNG would be a great change - make the games way more fun for recs. This idea was extremely popular over in the STT forum.
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05-09-2013 , 08:33 PM
Another improvement I believe is interesting both for regs and recs is that you should have the option for seeing the Info-tab instead of the chatbox when a SNG is starting, unless this is already possible by a way I don't know?
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05-09-2013 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Giodude19
Another improvement I believe is interesting both for regs and recs is that you should have the option for seeing the Info-tab instead of the chatbox when a SNG is starting, unless this is already possible by a way I don't know?
+1
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05-10-2013 , 08:45 PM
Can we discuss higher buy-in rebuy 180s again or is this still off the table?

Given how popular the 3r/180s are, and the big jump between 15s and 35s, a ~7r makes a whole lot of sense.
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05-10-2013 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Giodude19
Another improvement I believe is interesting both for regs and recs is that you should have the option for seeing the Info-tab instead of the chatbox when a SNG is starting, unless this is already possible by a way I don't know?
Table Ninja is your friend.
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05-10-2013 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by OditeRussia
Table Ninja is your friend.
I bet it is, but I think it's a small improvement PokerStars easily can implement
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05-11-2013 , 07:25 AM
Hello all,

Back from vacation, I am ready to take on more of your questions. The break from posting was longer than expected, but hopefully we can catch up now.

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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Doubt many people ITT care about this, but the $6 45s and $11 180s (non turbo) appear to have disappeared? Is this deliberate?
I made a mistake when I deployed these tournaments the last time around. I apologize for this, and I have now re-deployed the tournaments.

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Originally Posted by Giodude19
Hi everyone

I wonder what your thoughts are on having antes earlier in play. I think the structure is OK for the $3.5r 180m sngs, but in the turbo freezeouts, I think it would not be bad to have the antes earlier.
Is this something that most of you want? If so, we will have a closer look at this suggestion.

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Originally Posted by huesos
What do you think about changing the $35 180s to $27s, making them in line with step tickets.
I can see why you'd want your preferred tournament to accept step tickets. I'm not sure that the $27 would satisfy all or most of the current $35 players, though. When we made adjustments to buy-ins in the past we got a lot of complaints from regulars who were concerned about a reduction in their hourly rate. I suspect that would be the case here.

Thanks
Baard
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05-11-2013 , 08:37 AM
I can't say I've thought it through in any detail but antes at something like t100 would be at least interesting/ worth discussing.
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05-11-2013 , 09:22 AM
I think Giodude19 has a point. I'm in for it.
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05-11-2013 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
Back from vacation, I am ready to take on more of your questions. The break from posting was longer than expected, but hopefully we can catch up now.
OK, we'll let it slide this time, but don't let it happen again.....


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Originally Posted by PokerStars Baard
Is this something that most of you want? If so, we will have a closer look at this suggestion.
When you changed the structures two years ago, you did it completely without consultation and as a result you totally butchered it. I can see an argument for discussing a new structure which makes the blind increases smoother, and brings antes in earlier, which I believe is what you tried in May 2011, but not at the cost of turning them into hypers with three minutes per blind level.
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05-11-2013 , 10:25 AM
I don't know whether it can be changed in the lobby, but since the server problems two days ago I always get a notification when I have done the add-on, which is pretty irritating when multitabling. Anyone who knows how to disable this?
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05-11-2013 , 01:05 PM
again tn is ur friend.
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