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View Poll Results: What do you think on the rake for DON?
The rake is too high but I will continue to play
116 25.00%
The rake is too high and I will not continue to play
89 19.18%
I dont play but if the rake was lower, I would
109 23.49%
The rake is fine
150 32.33%

11-03-2008 , 09:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROCKY DOG
$10 level, blinds 100/200 ante 25, 8 handed, table is playing very tight

Seat 1 1360
Seat 2 1710
Seat 3 Hero 1150
Seat 4 1740
Seat 5 1520
Button 1675
SB 3940
BB 1905

What sould be my minimum range for a push in this spot.

Many thanks
DOG.
JJ+ AK imo
11-03-2008 , 10:19 PM
I think our range should be a little wider than that. My shoving range is AQ+ & 99+.
11-04-2008 , 11:57 AM
Hey guys.
Just started playing DON stts, can anyone confirm this is a standard push and an awfull call by oppo?
Cheers

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t40 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: t2265
BB: t3070
UTG: t2915
Hero (MP): t1740
CO: t2160
BTN: t2850

Pre Flop: (t840) Hero is MP with K Q
1 fold, Hero raises to t1700 all in, 3 folds, BB calls t1300

Flop: (t3840) 9 4 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t3840) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t3840) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t3840
BB shows 2 A (high card Ace)
Hero shows K Q (high card King)
BB wins t3840
11-04-2008 , 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chilin_dude
Hey guys.
Just started playing DON stts, can anyone confirm this is a standard push and an awfull call by oppo?
Cheers

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t40 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: t2265
BB: t3070
UTG: t2915
Hero (MP): t1740
CO: t2160
BTN: t2850

Pre Flop: (t840) Hero is MP with K Q
1 fold, Hero raises to t1700 all in, 3 folds, BB calls t1300

Flop: (t3840) 9 4 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t3840) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t3840) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t3840
BB shows 2 A (high card Ace)
Hero shows K Q (high card King)
BB wins t3840
Good push.
11-04-2008 , 12:43 PM
Ok thanks also another one, blinds so big only one shorter than me, or is this juust long term bad? Obv him having aces is sick but not long term factor.
Thanks.

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t30 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t1475
Hero (SB): t1995
BB: t2605
UTG: t3065
MP: t3720
CO: t2140

Pre Flop: (t630) Hero is SB with Q 4
4 folds, Hero raises to t1965 all in, BB calls t1665

Flop: (t4110) 5 9 J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t4110) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t4110) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t4110
Hero shows Q 4 (two pair, Queens and Nines)
BB shows A A (two pair, Aces and Nines)
BB wins t4110
11-04-2008 , 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chilin_dude
Ok thanks also another one, blinds so big only one shorter than me, or is this juust long term bad? Obv him having aces is sick but not long term factor.
Thanks.

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t30 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t1475
Hero (SB): t1995
BB: t2605
UTG: t3065
MP: t3720
CO: t2140

Pre Flop: (t630) Hero is SB with Q 4
4 folds, Hero raises to t1965 all in, BB calls t1665

Flop: (t4110) 5 9 J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t4110) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t4110) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t4110
Hero shows Q 4 (two pair, Queens and Nines)
BB shows A A (two pair, Aces and Nines)
BB wins t4110

I think this depends alot on the read you have on BB. If you know he is a solid player and won't call down with a big range here this is a good shove. If not you can still fold since you are not in a bad spot yet chipwise.
11-04-2008 , 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by apefish
I don't know if it would help unclog it but maybe offering something between the 1 and 5 level would be a start. Probably just lead to deteroriation of the $3.40 pools I guess.
Part of the problem with the micros is Stars can't start to offer more games without pointing out the rake discrepancy.

The 1.10s should really be 1.05s and then they could offer something like 2.50+.1.
Yeah, I think the 1.10's are a rip off. It is easier to make a profit on the 5.20's your win rate can be lower and there really is not much diferent in the games.
11-04-2008 , 01:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brocktoon
Horrible reply. His question isn't dumb since he wants to maximize the chances that the BB goes out and end the tournament. Obviously calling increases the chances of that happening. Its not like he needs a stellar hand against a guy who is forced all in on the BB.

I'm not sure what the proper play is there but calling can't be too bad. The SBs fold is just atrocious.
Yeah I could see calling if more then 1 other person calls. Even if the short stack is favored if 3 or 4 call it would reduce his odds to less then 50-50. Maybe less then 25%. If he wins and a number of people call he will have more chips then you and all the pressure is on you. So you need him out.

With 1 caller I would fold if wins he still has less then a 1000 chips and then you can pick a better hand to steal blinds or fold and let him act first.
11-04-2008 , 05:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuzzDog1971
dblgutted,

I am 20 tabling right now. I use PT2. I am having similar issues when I try to run PAHud running that many tables, so I have opted to play with out a hud right now. I have had no issues importing HH's or summaries with the DoNs.
Dammit, why did you just register on top of my 20 game set?! Had you in 16 of them, and I registered in blanks...
11-04-2008 , 09:45 PM
$10 TURBO, blinds 150/300 ante 30, BUBBLE time, i am sb stack size 1120.

Seat 1 (3350) fold
Seat 2 (4350) fold
Seat 3 (2350) fold
c/o (2180) fold
Hero sb (1120) 8 3 Push
bb (1650) J J

No suckout lol, but i felt if i don't make a play at this pot now i am digging
myself to much of a hole.

DOG.
11-04-2008 , 09:46 PM
Looks fine, hes the only stack you can really shove into.
11-05-2008 , 01:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dblgutted
Dammit, why did you just register on top of my 20 game set?! Had you in 16 of them, and I registered in blanks...
Why do you have to open 20 game sets? It makes it difficult if we want to avoid the regulars and give everybody a better chance at the fish. I shouldn't have to wait for 20 tables to go before getting decent table selection.
11-05-2008 , 01:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdl
Why do you have to open 20 game sets? It makes it difficult if we want to avoid the regulars and give everybody a better chance at the fish. I shouldn't have to wait for 20 tables to go before getting decent table selection.
Is it that hard to either:

a) take a leak and come back in 5 minutes to register in fresh sets
b) register in SNGs 21-41
11-05-2008 , 01:43 AM
Sometimes you cant avoid it.

I've waited for a reg's tables to load before taking a seat and as soon as they've finished another reg registers for another 20 tables.

btw i hate when reg's do that, register for 20-25 tables all at the same time and you have a huge list which probably scares away fish.
11-05-2008 , 06:17 AM
very good post Rainbow,makes you wonder if they really are worth while,seems to me the better option ob bankroll building would be to stick to stts.
11-05-2008 , 06:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dblgutted
Is it that hard to either:

a) take a leak and come back in 5 minutes to register in fresh sets
b) register in SNGs 21-41
At certain times of the day it takes at least a minute on average for each game to fill in the $20s at least. People won't wait nearly half an hour for you.
11-05-2008 , 01:13 PM
Hi

What Should I do here ?

->If I fold the SB can sometimes fold because he don't care, and the short get a walk. ( or the SB limp and the shortstack find a good flop and double up )

->If I push, the SB can call me, and the shortstack fold and its bad for me.

->Minraise is a bad idea because If SB push I will fold; and as the Blinds hit me first I will lose.

->I could limp, hope SB limp, and bet any flop.

What Is the best option ?

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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $20.80 Buy-in (125/250 blinds, 25 ante) NL Hold'em Tourney, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG: 5,380 (21.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): 1,245 (5 bb)
SB: 4,155 (16.6 bb)
BB: 685 (2.7 bb)
MP: 1,400 (5.6 bb)
CO: 2,135 (8.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with A J
3 folds,
Hero ???
SB ?
BB ?
11-05-2008 , 01:47 PM
Shove it. The BB is very unlikely to have a hand nearly as good as yours and the SB will (should) fold most of the time.

In all likelyhood you'll get called by the BB with an inferior hand. This is a far more favorable result than giving the BB a walk and letting him practically double up and pull almost even with you for free.

If you get called by the SB and he has you crushed that's a cooler, and it sucks, but you have to risk it imo.
11-05-2008 , 04:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dblgutted
Dammit, why did you just register on top of my 20 game set?! Had you in 16 of them, and I registered in blanks...
Ok, which one of you guys is 15-tabling Stars $1 DON with 23% ROI? You made me wait 15 minutes to start signing up for my measly 4 tables.

But I'm really mad at the guy who has nonstandard (not on standard US keyboard) characters in his name so I can't Sharkscope him and find out if he's a winning player or not (not every multitabler is good at it). So I have to play it safe and dodge that guy too.
11-05-2008 , 05:32 PM
a wtf river/checkraise spot. should i not be betting the river here?


Poker Stars $5.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds + t15 - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t2310
BTN: t1085
SB: t2970
Hero (BB): t2900
UTG: t1955
UTG+1: t2280
MP: t1500

Pre Flop: (t330) Hero is BB with J A
5 folds, SB calls t75, Hero checks

Flop: (t405) 8 9 J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, SB calls t300

Turn: (t1005) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (t1005) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t600, SB raises to t2400, Hero folds
11-05-2008 , 08:02 PM
$10 level 9 handed, blinds 50/100 ante 10, hero utg 99 t1300
SB t850
BB t400
The remaining players range between t1500 t2200

At this stage what is the best between push, fold, small raise.

Thanks
DOG.
11-05-2008 , 09:38 PM
^ fold
11-06-2008 , 12:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenad
a wtf river/checkraise spot. should i not be betting the river here?


Poker Stars $5.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds + t15 - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t2310
BTN: t1085
SB: t2970
Hero (BB): t2900
UTG: t1955
UTG+1: t2280
MP: t1500

Pre Flop: (t330) Hero is BB with J A
5 folds, SB calls t75, Hero checks

Flop: (t405) 8 9 J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, SB calls t300

Turn: (t1005) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (t1005) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t600, SB raises to t2400, Hero folds
I'm b/f turn and c/f river here always. More because of relative stacks than anything.
11-06-2008 , 12:10 AM
Poker Stars $20.00+$0.80 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t30 - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (MP): t1975
CO: t95
BTN: t8745
SB: t915
BB: t3055
UTG: t215

Pre Flop: (t630) Hero is MP with 9 A
4 folds, SB raises to t885 all in, BB calls t585

Flop: (t1950) K 5 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t1950) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t1950) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t1950
SB shows 9 A (high card Ace)
BB shows 5 7 (a pair of Fives)
BB wins t1950

lol @ sb I know of at least 3 players who fell out of their chair laughing



One was me obv (this was last of a 16 set and I almost cried)
11-06-2008 , 02:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenad
a wtf river/checkraise spot. should i not be betting the river here?


Poker Stars $5.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds + t15 - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t2310
BTN: t1085
SB: t2970
Hero (BB): t2900
UTG: t1955
UTG+1: t2280
MP: t1500

Pre Flop: (t330) Hero is BB with J A
5 folds, SB calls t75, Hero checks

Flop: (t405) 8 9 J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t300, SB calls t300

Turn: (t1005) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (t1005) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t600, SB raises to t2400, Hero folds

Why are you betting that river?

      
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