Love it how I'm not reading this but I assume its a lot of drivel similar to betgo's. This guy thinks he can create unexploitable opening ranges He must be the GOAT!

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"Your advice on this hand has been confused imo . Don't raise TT because you will have to fold too often but then you say the SB is only shoving 14% !
If that's the case then you can raise/fold TT and a heck of a lot more profitably."

No answer to this I see. Does anyone else want to try or is Borgata wrong here ?

My advice was limp Because you can't r/f profitably but if you limp you can have fold equity and reshove! So was anskys! Just being clear. Not getting into debates with an idiot troll. #backonignore.

Also if I raised, I'd prefer to minraise!

However, as played, I think Gus needs much more than 56.6% with skill edge to call. Closer to 60% Even vs best ranges think calling is breakeven and I'd wait for better spot. But calling isn't bad either. Think its about as neutral a play as you can find. 99 snap f JJ snap c

But you clearly can r/f profitably and you're putting the sb on 14%. You can profitably raise fold a shedload of hands against that range.

You said you were ignoring the skill edge. Do you want us to include the 400k - 600k "overlay" you estimated for winning the title as well ?

wow, cwocwoc making a strong case for being the #1 troll on the entire forum. it's really impressive, the dedication he shows, day in and day out, to trolling.

learned this one from betgo guys


Full Tilt Poker Game #31664815014: FTOPS Event #31 (2-Day) (243423160), Table 12 - 10/20 Ante 3 - No Limit Hold'em - 11:10:18 ET - 2012/12/15
Seat 1: betudontbet (6,184)
Seat 2: Valeriy889 (5,870)
Seat 4: bparis (5,932)
Seat 5: Rentry85 (6,054)
Seat 6: Goldenboys (6,054)
Seat 7: MURIBE (5,940), is sitting out
Seat 8: F-OO 92 (6,087)
Seat 9: robot_werter (6,857)
betudontbet antes 3
Valeriy889 antes 3
bparis antes 3
Rentry85 antes 3
Goldenboys antes 3
MURIBE antes 3
F-OO 92 antes 3
robot_werter antes 3
bparis posts the small blind of 10
Rentry85 posts the big blind of 20
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bparis [As Ac]
Goldenboys folds
MURIBE folds
F-OO 92 folds
robot_werter folds
betudontbet has 15 seconds left to act
betudontbet raises to 50
Valeriy889 folds
bparis has 15 seconds left to act
bparis calls 40
bigbluffzinc sits down
Rentry85 has 15 seconds left to act
Rentry85 raises to 170
betudontbet calls 120
bparis has 15 seconds left to act
bparis raises to 629
Rentry85 has 15 seconds left to act
Rentry85 raises to 1,120
betudontbet folds
bparis has 15 seconds left to act
bparis has requested TIME
bparis raises to 1,929
Rentry85 folds
Uncalled bet of 809 returned to bparis
bparis mucks
bparis wins the pot (2,434)
bparis: the new york backraise
bparis: gets em every time

http://www.moreev.com/learn-poker/ar...ack-raise.html

gahahaha nice find.

poker coaching is such a scam business makes me sick.

i honestly wonder how people like betgo sleep at night. He obviously knows he is a terrible


Sizing the NYBR.
Let’s say you started with the usual 100BB, attempted a NYBR with Aces, and hare happy to see that the BB is playing along, and raising the 3.5 open-raise to a total of 16BB. What sort of raise should you put in?
Often, people will 4-bet a squeeze raise out of sheer anger. They have been squeezed for the third time in the session, and suspect the 3-bettor has to be bluffing. They stick in a big 4-bet, committing themselves to the pot. This is a relatively poor strategy, as it will make the squeezer fold all his bluff hands, but will commit the 4-bettor to the pot every time the 3-bettor indeed has a real hand.
Here, we’re trying to give the opposite impression. By definition, the NYBR looks like a weird, misplaced re-steal attempt. If you do not try it too often, you will be surprised hoe regularly the blind will go for a big shove bluff in that spot. If you leave him the chance that is! The worst thing you can do in that spot is use a 4-bet size that says I am committed to that pot, and I am not going nowhere�. What you want to do instead is to use a smallish raise size, making it unclear whether or not you are going for the ride, and suggesting to your opponent he might have some steal equity. In our example, a raise to 36 to 40 BB should achieve that goal.

i think we need to see a heads up match between munk and betgo featuring 1/2 poker, 1/2 cage match.....whos got the edge?

I am trying to avoid responding and feeding the troll, but I have to correct more misrepresentations. That article is by someone else on the moreev site I also produce videos and quizes for. I did not write that article. I used the terminology NY backraise in my video to be consistent with the article on the same site.

Calling someone a 'troll' doesn't magically make their points invalid, betgo. The site is a joke. You are a joke. You are doing a good job of proving that to everyone, so please keep posting. You are making it very entertaining, and now I know if anyone still wants coaching of yours after reading through these threads and doing proper research, well then, you deserve their 50$/hr ;;

Metagame considerations.
The NYBR is a great balancing tool, for these few times where you elect to just call a loose raiser instead of 3-betting him. Also, once you know a player has seen you go for the NYBR with a premium hand, make a note, and attempt the even more spectacular bluff NYBR!

Moreev is a free training site, oriented mostly towards beginners. It is probably not of interest to most readers of this forum, but it provides a useful service.

Now you are attempting to libel my coaching services further because I produce videos for a site that prints what you believe is a bad article.

Sue me betgo.

I suggest you get an E-Lawyer that specializes on the first amendment not existing.

FREE BORGATAGRINDER85

I reported this statement and I think it got him banned, but he is discussing things with the mods in another thread under a different name.

you should have just called his raise to 1,120 and then donk lead into him for 1/3 pot.

Losing an argument? Better try as hard as you can to get the guy banned, good approach

a part of me hopes every reg reads this so I can make witty jokes about NY backraising when playing live, it can be our secret handshake of sorts

oh yeah and more andres thread saving less betgo idiot posting

carry on

Start a fundraiser to get tshirts made that look like a logo of a NY sports team, but replace team name with "backraise"

shame they ban the best posters

I just made a great thread in coaching advice too about a way to solve all of this, and no more problems. And they ban me.

I guess twoplustwo just wants scummy coaches stealing money from microplayers, paying twoplustwo ad money.

Sad. Guess I'll never be on twoplustwo again. Now it looks like they are deleting my posts/names with no contact to me via Email while betgo still posts here. Such a joke.

BRING ME STEALTHMUNK OR BRING ME DEATH!

mods can emah

this is one sad day in 2+2 history