This post was the nail in the coffin. Although is public and notorious which side I support in the battle, I totally agree with this guy : http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=134

We need to keep discussing hands, berating or compliment each other, but Betgo and Justin are clogging the forum, so it's time for them to get a room/thread and leave us, rest of human kind, on the side.

For those who haven't followed the 789 posts made up to date, here are some cliffs:

Munk: Betgo, you're a fraud, you suck at poker, stop posting, I give good advise, always have, your coaching is a scam.

Betgo: Munk, I can't remove the "see my coaching list" add, I beat MTTSNGS and 2/5NL live, I'm calling my lawyer.


Good luck guys...

first!

Betgo - "the factors that define ICM counteract ICM"

Munk - "head asplode"

thanks (:

ppl who defend betgo's con are evil

evil

If you pay Betgo for coaching your children will suck at math, have 2 heads and a small penis.

If you support Munk your mom will steal your money.

I still can't decide whether he is for real in all that ***t or is just taking the **ss/enjoying the publicity or whatever. In any case, steak is not that tasty when it gets black.

Hopefully this will turn into the thread where we nominate a new, active HSMTT mod.

loool never noticed the header above your pic, good one.

He didn't even thank the guy who looked for the girl's name in the internet imo

Can anyone find this? Eager to see betgo tricks.

Like I said, he may be a good poker player. (Unlikely) It doesn't change the fact he 100% is a fraud and misrepresented himself as an expert in the late game ICM/resteals. That isn't debatable. He has yet to apologize for misrepresenting himself or admit that he isn't an expert in the math analysis of resteal situations/ICM. Or maybe he's too dumb to even realize that.

Either way, I'm glad its out in the open now though. I will also periodically check the coaching thread and just link the posts to potential new players looking to be coached by betgo. And if they are too lazy to do the research on the guy they are paying 50$/hr, well then they deserve to be taken by the betgo.

Thats all, think its over

betgo was limping buttons with 12 bigs before you even knew what plo was dont talk to him about tricks

http://www.moreev.com/learn-poker/po...-by-betgo.html

http://www.moreev.com/learn-poker/po...-by-betgo.html

Here are the links to my free videos on moves. Most people here should pretty much know all of this, but think it is pretty cool to have something like this as beginners videos. Don't think I am defrauding anyone or making the games easier.

Anxiously waiting for Munk's verdict on those videos...

If Munk is HSMTTs Dark Knight, does that make Betgo the Joker?

Haha, these videos are awesome.
Just like reading out single words from a french dictionary and expecting the student to be fluent in french after

The New York backraise, lol

So let me get this straight, the videos don't show any hands being played. No actual hand analysis. But this is supposed to be helpful in some way? haha.

So if I hired a baseball coach and he just gave me a 15 minute lecture on the value of bunting, stealing, leading off of first base, sacrifice flies, and how and when to adjust to different types of pitches, but didn't show me anything in practice he'd be doing a betgo approved video!

Worthless.

I lie actually, can't wait to incorporate the New York back raise into a HSMTT post in the future. We got one good thing out of it.

Not saying betgo is a worthless coach, just saying those videos just show nothing as to prove whether or not he is a worthless coach or not. (He probably is a worthless coach though)

Whatever, I do HH videos too. It would be better to do the lecture part and then a couple of examples of each play. Lecture videos take preparation time, but that type would take more. Your argument is I am a total charlatan and worthless as a coach @ $50/hour. I think these videos indicate otherwise.

lol, ummmm, of course you think that.

Anyone with a brain would think those videos do nothing to prove your abilities as a coach.

And either way, I explained many times, even if you are a decent coach it doesn't change the fact that you are a fraud and imsrepresented your expertise. I suppose if you actually are a decent coach you wouldn't be a charlatan exactly. You still will forever in my book, and anyone who is able to understand ICM/resteal /math scenarios, be a fraud. You misrepresented your expertise in that area and you refuse to admit to it in all of these posts where I pick apart the holes in your logic and game.

Whatever, I could show you a lot of videos that show I have expertise that can help a low stakes player. You may be able to pick me apart of whatever, but I provide good value with my coaching services. I have zillions of testimonials from (you think deluded) students that I have helped them greatly. Yours is the only negative post on my coaching thread.

You have absolutely no business posting in my coaching thread which has been moved to coaching advice that I am not competent. You offer free coaching to my students to correct misconceptions I may have given them.

You tried to damage my reputation by taking out of context where I said "sure, please post in my coaching thread" after a student volunteered on his own that he wanted to post in that thread.

I have had this coaching thread for 2 years and provide an excellent service to my students. It totally outragious that 2+2 allows this trolling and false and slanderous attacks when I am paying for a coaching listing.

I have to agree with that tbh, if you`re a winning player you`re entitled to make representations about how good you believe you are and in what areas you`re good in- people are way out of line in saying someone flat out shouldn`t coach. Strictly from the point of view of fair value the marketplace for shares on 2plus2 is way worse at times imo, but thats the way capitalism works :P Some of the insults have been slanderous and out of line for sure purely from a legal point of view.