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02-01-2014 , 01:17 AM
Been a while since I made it till 6.15am on a night out..
El oh el drinkaments
02-01-2014 , 12:53 PM
I made it to 1:30am on a night in. lol Dr. Whoaments.
02-01-2014 , 01:36 PM
My one and only best man speech lasted about 30 seconds I think.

"Tracy you're a beautiful, caring, amazing woman. Willis you're a hell of a lot smarter than I thought you were. Cheers!"

In retrospect I wish I would've padded it a little more. But in retro – retrospect I'm not friends with Willis anymore because he turned out to be a giant ******* – so I don't care. Well he was always kind of a giant *******, but he never grew out of it like the rest of us.
02-01-2014 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
My one and only best man speech lasted about 30 seconds I think.

"Tracy you're a beautiful, caring, amazing woman. Willis you're a hell of a lot smarter than I thought you were. Cheers!"

In retrospect I wish I would've padded it a little more. But in retro – retrospect I'm not friends with Willis anymore because he turned out to be a giant ******* – so I don't care. Well he was always kind of a giant *******, but he never grew out of it like the rest of us.
I think it's story time about this Willis chum
02-01-2014 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
My one and only best man speech lasted about 30 seconds I think.

"Tracy you're a beautiful, caring, amazing woman. Willis you're a hell of a lot smarter than I thought you were. Cheers!"

In retrospect I wish I would've padded it a little more. But in retro – retrospect I'm not friends with Willis anymore because he turned out to be a giant ******* – so I don't care. Well he was always kind of a giant *******, but he never grew out of it like the rest of us.
Lol. **** you Willis!
02-01-2014 , 02:25 PM
Not getting into partisan politics here at all. Chris Christie could never have been president anyway because he's too fat. This, of course, is terrible. The appearance of a candidate became very important starting with TV and Nixon/Kennedy, and since Reagan we basically can not have a serious candidate who is: short, fat, balding, white haired, wears glasses or any kind of funny looking. Even back then Ross Perot never stood a chance. Now he'd be laughed off completely.

There may be other qualifications, but if you couldn't get a job as a model for Brooks Brothers, don't bother.

p.s. I'm 6'2", not fat, not really balding or white haired, can get by w/o glasses or wear contacts, maybe a little funny looking.

Last edited by microbet; 02-01-2014 at 02:30 PM.
02-01-2014 , 02:45 PM
He's just trying to cover up his naturally pointy elbows.
02-01-2014 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Not getting into partisan politics here at all. Chris Christie could never have been president anyway because he's too fat. This, of course, is terrible. The appearance of a candidate became very important starting with TV and Nixon/Kennedy, and since Reagan we basically can not have a serious candidate who is: short, fat, balding, white haired, wears glasses or any kind of funny looking. Even back then Ross Perot never stood a chance. Now he'd be laughed off completely.

There may be other qualifications, but if you couldn't get a job as a model for Brooks Brothers, don't bother.

p.s. I'm 6'2", not fat, not really balding or white haired, can get by w/o glasses or wear contacts, maybe a little funny looking.
They said the same thing about being black until 2008. Certainly being fat is a detriment, but I think Christie's charisma could have overcome it. Also there's a lot of time to lose weight between now and 2016 campaign time.
02-01-2014 , 05:49 PM
Neither Christies weight nor his bridge scandal will be the reason he doesn't become president. Even if he got the nomination (which I think he's too moderate for), he'd never beat Hillary in a presidential race.
02-01-2014 , 05:56 PM
Without this scandal he had to be a huge favorite for the nomination. Being moderate is about the only shot (barring WWIII) the R's have at the next election.
02-01-2014 , 06:04 PM
The Republicans best shot is probably to find some no-name, not exorbitantly wealthy moderate – with very little record and public quote history to attack. Is Huntsman super rich? I forget.
02-01-2014 , 06:26 PM
Having someone morbidly obese when one of the main things you need to hit the other side on is making health care too expensive seems like a bad line. Rs are screwed anyways until they figure out a way to jettison the fundamentalist wing and/or relax on immigration.

Having a strong female go against a man whose main Schtick is bullying his opponents sounds like a good watch imo. And and some Bill too man i hope this happens.
02-01-2014 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
They said the same thing about being black until 2008. Certainly being fat is a detriment, but I think Christie's charisma could have overcome it. Also there's a lot of time to lose weight between now and 2016 campaign time.
It was true until about 2008. Now it's ok to be a black, but you still better look like you could pull off a Brooks Brothers ad.

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Originally Posted by movieman2g
Neither Christies weight nor his bridge scandal will be the reason he doesn't become president. Even if he got the nomination (which I think he's too moderate for), he'd never beat Hillary in a presidential race.
He can have more than one reason to not get elected.

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Originally Posted by Ditch Digger
Without this scandal he had to be a huge favorite for the nomination. Being moderate is about the only shot (barring WWIII) the R's have at the next election.
The Republicans have been super screwed up lately exactly because moderates have little to no shot at nomination. Of course they'd do better in the general election.

Many people of course will paint Clinton or Obama as extreme lefties, but they are very far from the mark. Obama didn't even need to give lip service to Ralph Nader or Noam Chomsky liberals in order to get nominated. Any Republican has to at least pretend to be Ned Flanders and Howard Jarvis.

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Originally Posted by suzzer99
The Republicans best shot is probably to find some no-name, not exorbitantly wealthy moderate – with very little record and public quote history to attack. Is Huntsman super rich? I forget.
True dat. The Republicans should probably just go whole hog for the Latino/Hispanic community. Become the party of open immigration. Big business will still be happy. Combine pro-immigration with anti-abortion and you get a lot of support from religious Catholic immigrants. You will lose some people who are anti-immigration, but a lot of those people will still stick with the anti-abortion party anyway.
02-01-2014 , 07:54 PM
Given the success of Obama's divide/conquer campaign, one could conclude that: Nobody could defeat a gay, transgender, disabled female of Hispanic origin. Especially if he/she were semi-wealthy. And not fat.

Regardless of party.
02-01-2014 , 08:48 PM
02-01-2014 , 09:31 PM
Regardless of party.
02-01-2014 , 09:58 PM
Spoiler:
dividir y conquistar
02-01-2014 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ditch Digger
Being moderate is about the only shot (barring WWIII) the R's have at the next election.
I agree, but I don't think the Republican Party is unified enough around this mentality to actually execute it

Also jay, you're right, there are many factors someone doesn't win.
02-02-2014 , 12:12 AM
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Being moderate is about the only shot (barring WWIII) the R's have at the next election.
Moderate conservatives are essentially non-radical liberals. But the public views radical conservative politicians as morons and radical libs as role models.

Strange world.
02-02-2014 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SlackerMcFly
Moderate conservatives are essentially non-radical liberals. But the public views radical conservative politicians as morons and radical libs as role models.

Strange 6000 year old world.
fyp

Last edited by Jbrochu; 02-02-2014 at 01:13 AM. Reason: That's for leaving me out of your xmas jingle for 7 out of 8 years!
02-02-2014 , 01:37 AM
Wat? That statement doesn't really seem to make any sense. Radical anything aren't usually considered role models...
02-02-2014 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SlackerMcFly
Moderate conservatives are essentially non-radical liberals. ...

Strange world.
Not exactly sure what this means, but some old Republicans like Richard Nixon and to some extent Ronald Reagan would be considered flaming liberals nowadays.

Nixon: Created the EPA, Clean Air Act, Endangered Species Act, Relations with China, Established the first Federal Affirmative Action program, instituted price and wage controls.

Strange world indeed.

Last edited by microbet; 02-02-2014 at 07:26 AM. Reason: Barry Goldwater tho.
02-02-2014 , 12:19 PM
please stop

02-03-2014 , 12:53 AM
kate the great
02-03-2014 , 01:20 AM
The football was weak, but the BBQ was strong.

      
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