Thanks for the reinforcement.
(Guess there are 2 psych nerds on the forum now)

Hello,

I've been rebuilding a roll on DoN's from 50$ but I wanted to try Limit.

Yesterday I played 0.05/0.1 FL without reading anything, after about 1k hands I read some posts here including starting hands and I've played 0.1/0.2 FL today. I will move to 0.25/0.50 tomorrow but I would like to see how I am doing so far.

Thanks!

looks good! try and keep that winrate up there

Hi

I posted my stats earlier in this thread because I was running bad.

Unfortunately I´m still running bad as hell so I´m posting my graph.

It covers approximately 1,5 years of playing $1/2

Should I start to worry or keep grinding?

stop defending with weak sauce? or 3! more?

I dont mean to be rude, but what the hell are you still doing at the same limit after 60k hands of 2BB/100. Presuming its all the same low limit(if its not <2/4 you are way too tight).

Cmart, something has gone terribly wrong. A 1k+ BB downswing at 1/2 is a big deal, and somehow you have ceased to be a winning player at these stakes. Definitely post stats, and if I were you, I would take at least a couple weeks (more like a month) off from the tables to read, study, post hands, etc. and try to get back on track.

I know you are right about me in big need of a study break but I must finish all those bonuses first

I did post stats earlier in this thread if you wanna take a look at them.

But I´m still to be called a winning player if I increase my bankroll every month?

I´m down $2000 this year(the downswing started January 1st) on the game but have earned bonuses of $4100 however the hourly rate is so low that its maybe just not worth the effort.

Oh ya... I mean you still play profitable poker I guess. It's just that people usually post on 2p2 looking to be at least a 1 BB/100 winner at the tables at smaller stakes, and your 1k+ BB downswing is evidence that this is absolutely not the case for you this year. I have yet to figure out how to search within threads on this site without just brute force flipping through every page, so if someone can either tell me how or you can link your stats that would be awesome. Also, why do you bonus chase? The bigger sites usually have similar deals, and you can table/seat select + learn your opponents + not have to go through all the hassle. I think bonus chasing was sweet back before UIGEA, but the deals mostly look annoying and slow to clear to me nowadays. Maybe non-US sites have good deals still? I wouldn't know.

Hi its here a few pages back.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=530

Yes there are still a lot of good bonuses which combined with rb deals and such gives 50-80% rakeback, but as you said I have to swap sites all the time so learning opponents/table selection definately is a problem.

Cmart, that is all quite strange imo. I think you should defend your BB more, but nothing looks too unusual. That reeks of terrible table selection options + insanely high rake before rakeback + rigged sites (j/k on rigged sites). Your stats suggest that you know too much about poker to run that terribly for so long. Are you looking out for sites that offer a very high percentage rakeback, but charge insane rake? Those can be terrible deals sometimes. I seriously think you might benefit from a more stable site. It's possible that you routinely play in abnormally tough games.

Also, I think bonus chasing can lead to generic, lazy, or scared play for some people. Make sure you are focusing on playing awesome poker and not on how long you have before the next bonus clears.

Ye, you have better stats and alot more hands under the belt than I used to have and I was beating 1/2 for 6BB/100 before rake(4ishBB/100!!!) over some 30k hands before I moved up. You should check how much you're beating it before the rake hits. Also, look over your game selection. You seem to have a pretty high 3bet% for the normal 1/2 loose passive games, finding games with 4-5 bad-very bad lp-players was easy peasy a year ago.

Still a small sample size but any comments are welcome. It seems to me like I really need help on my game.





Thanks in advance

OH well... please help me


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Marmor,
It's going to be tricky giving feedback without the column headings.

i just moved up to 5/10 and had a pretty hefty -167 bet loss. im confident im a winner in that game, but what should i be looking for in hem just to make sure its not me?

Try winning some showdowns, imo. Showdown stats of 38/49 are either from running terrible, complete lack of hand reading, or like bluff raising every river.

You should make sure that you're not doing anything drastically different than you were doing to beat $3/6. WTSD and WWSF will likely rise a little as a greater percentage of pots are HU.

my WTSD is the same. as is my WWSF, won hand % is 2% lower and W$SD dropped 3%. what does this tell me? what other stats should I be looking for? 7729 hand sample

Buddha, Abso, Oink and anyone else – take a look if you have a sec.
I posted this last week but I don’t think the images worked.

I’m a noob that started w/$50 at PS and am slowly building my bankroll from that. Started at .02/.04 and am now up to .10/.20.

Here are my .10/.20 6max stats – filtered for 5/6 handed

I realize my sample is very small – but wanted some initial feedback.

After slowly working my way through this thread, here are my suspicions. All comments welcome:

1) My “positional awareness” could use a lot of work. My only defense is that sometimes I’m trying to isolate certain players. At .10/.20 there are a LOT of 55/0, 70/2 and 80/5 players.

2) Need to raise PreFlop more?? – just a confidence thing I guess.

3) My WTSD% and W$SD% are lower than most but I’m still running at 3.63BB/100. Does this mean I’m actually running bad? Does it mean I tend to win larger pots and let small ones go? Or am I just trying to find significance in the random noise?

4) VPIP and winrate from BB are very low – limp more?

5) Am I too aggressive on Turn & River? Most of the videos I watch are for 1/2 or 2/4 – I think I’m playing more aggressive than I need to be. Most opponents at this level are pretty straightforward.

6) Most importantly, what am I not seeing? Or what am I just wrong about?

filtered for 5/6





I see the aggression for the streets isn't on the image:
Flop Agg:2.31
Turn Agg: 3.07
River Agg: 2.38

Your WTSD and W$SD seem low for playing so tight, but you could just be running bad. Your aggression is high, but that could also just because you play so tight. You should try and loosen up and get in pots with fish. I only have a couple thousand hands at 0.1/0.2 but I ran at 37/23. I'm not suggesting you move up to that right away, but try and loosen up, especially in position. There were just a lot of opportunities to play limped pots and it was pretty easy to push pre-flop equity edges. My WTSD was a bit lower than it is at other levels, but that is probably okay because you won't be getting to showdown as much with so many multiway pots.

Your positional awareness needs a lot of work. There's about a 20VPIP difference between my UTG VPIP and my button VPIP. Play a lot of pots in position against fish. At these levels you can probably limp a lot of your QJ, QT, 98s type hands UTG instead of raising them.

guy mcsucker is that u?

Losing over 120K hands is a sign of serious problems. You need to take a detailed look at your game and implement a plan to steadily get better in the areas you are having issues in. This plan could include for example watching videos and taking notes, reviewing and posting hands, and examining the play of other players to see the things they do well and poorly at.

A few that I notice from stats are:

* an oddly small gap between VPiP and PFR
* low defended BB to steal
* borderline high pf 3b %

I'm also wonder why you've played such a wide range of limits when you aren't beating the lowest ones for much.

This just tells you that you're running bad. Try tabling/seat selecting harder at the new limit and playing less tables.

ty leader. i have been playing a couple extra tables atm.