Hey guys can you please help me ... I need a reference number to know how bad I suck.
I guess I call down way too much when I get raised on the turn and call down from there.

I lost $1023 (at 1/2) in 295 hands when the action was as followed:

Flop: bet

Turn: bet / call

River: check/call or call


This looks really ugly in my eyes.

At 1/2 a raise or c/r on the turn is usually a very strong hand....obviously it is player dependent. I did an analysis (let me see if I can find)....of how many times someone was bluffing or semibluffing when they raised the turn and it was a very small number.

Is it possible in HEM to filter for the money that went in till the point of the turn raise and for the money after that point?

pretty sure anybody loses money after taking that line ... more interesting would be the % of pots you win compared to the average pot size to see if u are gettgin the right price to call down overall

I counted 86 won pots and 5 split pots of the total 295 hands. Thats roughly 30% won pots. ( btw: call me stupid, right after I counted all pots I realized I could just have looked at the w$sd stat. )

Most of the pots are 10 Big Bets, average might be little higher because here and there are some really big pots.

So contrary to my first belief when I see these results it looks good. I pay 2 extra BB after the turn raise for an average pot of 10 BB and win 30% of them.

Yas,

So you're losing 1.7 -1.8 bets per hand on the times you get k/r'd on the turn?

Totally fine obv. If you outright folded you'd be losing about 2.5 per hand so you're making money back by continuing.

Of course that doesn't necessarily mean you're picking all the rights spots to call down and that you can't give it any more thought.

-Bill

what is k/r'd? check raised?

correct. I prefer to use 'k' or 'x' to indicate check and 'c' for a call.

I hope at some point I stop doing some of these pretty ******ed obviously I`m never good calldowns. Does that ever stop?

I´m probably going to feel real stupid when someone tells me why.
But how is it possible to have higher VP$IP than saw flop all hands?

correct ...

sometimes u take it down preflop

Yeah.But for me that don´t compensate the times I see BB for free.

Thats just the different nature of the games. I wouldnt be surprised if I get a walk more often in the BB than a free flop. And then of course there is all the times where I take the pot down with a raise

Edit: Ok so I checked the numbers and thats prolly not true.

hardcore multitablers,

10-12 tabling? how detailed are your reads when playing this many tables? i can't imagine how note taking would be possible (maybe you type real fast!); do you autopilot mostly and/or depend heavily on your hud? also, what stats do you use on your hud?

thanks

I type around 75wpm and I do take some notes, but not as much as when I play 9 or less. With a tiled layout I can remember where certain players are and their tendencies. I do use the hud as well, but it's still a collection of information.

standard deviation:


can somebody please explain these figures:
my BB/100 is 0.74
I have played 125k hands in total
my standard deviation per 100 hands is 21.3 BB

somehow I feel like winning OR LOOSING 20-30 BB per 100 hands is just total normal and happens all the time (I feel 8 tabling means loosing 50-100 bets in 30 minutes happends pretty often)
is my SD just incredible high resulting in crazy swings (or vice versa) or did my brain just plays crazy tricks on me and I just suck like everyone else?

Does anyone truly use the HUD stats other than for identifying fish....i'm talking lower limits here 3/6 and down? I find that because the limits i play are so filled with so many different players that its hard to get thousands of hands on opponents. Also ive stop using the HUD unless i want to see some stats of a player i might be unsure i have hands on. Any thoughts?

it's def useful to see how much people defend their blinds and go to showdown, etc. i alter my ranges and from person to person a reasonable amount from those stats. true the numbers aren't perfect but they're far from useless for things other than for finding fish.

Yeah, 21BB/100 std dev sounds like it's higher than average. That said, I don't think you can feel the difference of having say 18BB/100 std dev swings to 21BB/100 std dev swings.

One thing though. There's a bit of a flaw in a way at least PT2 calculated std dev and I think it had something to with the length of your sessions and I understand that you in particular play pretty long sessions. I don't know which that should skew the std dev, but you can get a more accurate number pretty easily by exporting the result of every single hand in the Reports tab in PT3 and importing that to Excel/OpenOffice. They both have a STDDEV() (or similar) function that calculates it accurately. Maybe you could try that out too?

I used to have a 6-max SD of under 14 BB/100. I can definitely feel the difference between that and the 17 or 18 that I'm at now. How much you 3-bet preflop has a huge effect on SD, FWIW.

Wait till it gets to 21

I have a std dev of 15.8 and have sick swings all the time.

I havent had a 300 downer in +400k hands. So just get your WR up and you wont swong downwards as much

wrong thread

since this is a brag thread, i figure i contribute.