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04-24-2009 , 10:11 PM
I thought stox's preflop chart would leave u around 30/20? not really sure, just seemed on the looser side . . . .

Also, just experiment, raise/3bet a little looser than u normally would, or concentrate specifically on looking for good oportunities to 3-bet light, etc. See how it goes, figure out what worked what didnt
04-25-2009 , 05:17 AM
agreed ongame has like the 2nd highest rake.

pacific poker of coruse takes the cake
04-25-2009 , 06:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Valente
I thought stox's preflop chart would leave u around 30/20? not really sure, just seemed on the looser side . . . .

Also, just experiment, raise/3bet a little looser than u normally would, or concentrate specifically on looking for good oportunities to 3-bet light, etc. See how it goes, figure out what worked what didnt
ya from the chart in his book i would like to know what stats u get

i beleive he was like 18% utg and i followed that till i tighted up till 12%

Also, what is with all these stats with tiny sample sizes
04-25-2009 , 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 9ball
One thing that I see its that your not aggro enough postflop. 39.9 is on the passive side.
Okay, what would be a better number and how can I archive it?
04-25-2009 , 06:38 AM
i started two month ago
04-25-2009 , 12:24 PM
Pascal, I think you need to start limping a little more, especially at .25/.50.
04-25-2009 , 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColeW123
Pascal, I think you need to start limping a little more, especially at .25/.50.
In four years of reading this forum....I believe this is the first time I have seen this recommendation.
04-25-2009 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by topspinner
In four years of reading this forum....I believe this is the first time I have seen this recommendation.
that's because there are like 3-4 people in this forum that actually play those limits.
04-25-2009 , 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColeW123
Pascal, I think you need to start limping a little more, especially at .25/.50.
What kind of hand would you limp ?
I only limp suited connectors, if the pot is multiway and non raised.
I usually raise IP with A6o-A8o, little suited aces, K6s-K9s, K9o againt some loose limpers. I like to raise those hands because they have some value IP and i take the initiative. Do you suggest to limp those hands instead of making marginal raise ? Because exept those hands, i know that i should raise/fold everything else.
04-25-2009 , 02:01 PM
And nobody has comments on my stats ? I must play perfectly
04-25-2009 , 02:07 PM
pascal,

it's rare that I fold any Kxs, K6o, Q6s+, or any Ax in unraised pots at .25/.5 The players are just too bad to seriously punish you for flopping top pair and being outkicked. Also stuff in the J8o, Q9o type range is usually playable.
04-25-2009 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Absolution
I think what he means is that poker is still poker. Playing more hands isn't going to change the fundamentals you should already have. You'll just be playing a lot of losing hands and will probably have to fold a lot. Also, you'll have to adjust to the image you get as well. Poker 'reality' is different for every player anyway.
Also, I forgot that Paul plays live so internet poker probably isn't serious business to him anyway. That would be pretty funny if a few years from now, playing maniac at small stakes is considered the ultimate poker training. I am actually tempted fairly often to do silly stuff like this, but my mind is too "bankroll bankroll bankroll build build build" for now.
04-25-2009 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Xhad
pascal,

it's rare that I fold any Kxs, K6o, Q6s+, or any Ax in unraised pots at .25/.5 The players are just too bad to seriously punish you for flopping top pair and being outkicked. Also stuff in the J8o, Q9o type range is usually playable.
"on the button" is missing from that first sentence. I'm not suggesting limping K6o utg, lol
04-26-2009 , 12:16 PM
I do not compare the rake between FTP and PS yet. But I think that the games are at Ongame somewhat softer then at the major sites. Maybe this makes the higher rake not so much worse.

Other question: What is a possible "normal downswing" at 5max LHE? Because it seems my stats are at least ok but my result are quiet bad
04-26-2009 , 04:35 PM
Where did all this 30/20 business come from, anyway? I'm pretty sure that the recomendations in Stox's book result in around 27/20 or 28/20 stats. I played with almost those exact numbers for like 50k hands before inevitably loosening up, but I didn't loosen up to 30/20, it went to 30/22 instead. I could maybe see a 9 point gap, but I really don't know what hands I'm raising or folding that anyone else is calling, particularly in $10/20+ games. I guess following the never 3-betting from BB plan I could see it. But I don't think that's where it generally comes from.
04-26-2009 , 09:15 PM
so after i busto'd playing 2/4 huhu, i learned the hard way how to properly manage my br. i decided that if i wanted to continue with poker that i'd have to return to 6max micro to rebuild... i consider myself to be a much better player now than i was the first time i played these games, and play a few more hands as a result, but hopefully i'm not over-doing it. i'm posting here to hopefully get a "check up" on my stats and make sure i'm not leaking too much. the sample is small but i don't feel like i ran overly well/poor so it should be fairly accurate except for my winrate ldo. this is all the hands i've played since 2/4

thanks for any advice
04-26-2009 , 09:46 PM
Christ, your VPIP and PFR are insanely high imo. I play 28/18 and I guess I'm a little TAGish, but ~40/~30 is too loose for me. If you're wining though...more power too you. WTSD might be a little high, but by the amount of hands you play, it could be fine.
04-26-2009 , 11:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitamin11
so after i busto'd playing 2/4 huhu, i learned the hard way how to properly manage my br. i decided that if i wanted to continue with poker that i'd have to return to 6max micro to rebuild... i consider myself to be a much better player now than i was the first time i played these games, and play a few more hands as a result, but hopefully i'm not over-doing it. i'm posting here to hopefully get a "check up" on my stats and make sure i'm not leaking too much. the sample is small but i don't feel like i ran overly well/poor so it should be fairly accurate except for my winrate ldo. this is all the hands i've played since 2/4
thanks for any advice
Are these filtered for 5 to 6 handed, or is there a significant amount of 3 & 4 handed play in there, too?
04-26-2009 , 11:43 PM
sigh. i wish i had done these filters before posting. the sample is tiny and i try not to think about winrates and stuff but i must say i'm disappointed that my profits have all come from heads up, and i'm losing in 6max.. i usually start my own tables because i feel like people play very poorly hu and sh compared to 6max. anyways here they are:
hu

3-4

5-6
04-26-2009 , 11:56 PM
There's a good chance that you're playing a little too loose 5 to 6 handed. I'm sure you have a good edge and all, but the rake at those limits is really brutal. This will cut down on the hands that you can play profitably. I mean, sample size, blah blah blah, you want to play pots with fish, just make sure that you're not seeing value because you want to, but rather because it's there.
04-26-2009 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GiantBuddha
just make sure that you're not seeing value because you want to, but rather because it's there.
i love it. thanks
04-27-2009 , 12:43 AM
That is a great sentence Buddha.
04-27-2009 , 11:18 PM
Virgin post.
Noob that started w/$50 at PS and am slowly building my bankroll from that. Started at .02/.04 and am now up to .10/.20.

Here are my .10/.20 6max stats – filtered for 5/6 handed

I realize my sample is very small – but wanted some initial feedback.

After slowly working my way through this thread, here are my suspicions. All comments welcome:

1) My “positional awareness” could use a lot of work. My only defense is that sometimes I’m trying to isolate certain players. At .10/.20 there are a LOT of 70/2 and 80/5 players.

2) Probably need to raise PreFlop more – just a confidence thing I guess.

3) My WTSD% and W$SD% are lower than most but I’m still running at 3.63BB/100. Does this mean I’m actually running bad? Does it mean I tend to win larger pots and let small ones go? Or am I just trying to find significance in the random noise?

4) VPIP and winrate from BB are very low – limp more?

5) I’m winning from SB – don’t change a thing or too early to tell?

6) Most importantly, what am I not seeing? Or what am I just wrong about?


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Last edited by LilAlbert; 04-27-2009 at 11:27 PM.
04-28-2009 , 01:02 AM
I think you guys should be posting your stats sorted by position. I know this is easy to do in HEM.
04-28-2009 , 02:22 AM
LilAlbert as a psych nerd i find your sn/avatar/loc hilarious

      
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