cindy89... in this forum we talk about min-raise poker only. Sorry.

Sadl3r: you mean is it acceptable for you to play that? well if you are so good at post-flop that you can play -EV hands and always know when you are ahead or behind then ya I guess you could play 47/38. If you are playing at tables where it is all people who are super nitty then maybe you could get away with it. Against loose-passives you will be putting yourself out of position with bad hands all day long. Against tags you will get 3bet to death and have to check/fold a ton of flops unless you want to spew more with the junk you are getting caught with pre-flop.

frib: Went to showdown and won at showdown are really difficult stats to analyze. Big deviations from norm like showing down over 45 or winning at showdown at like 40 can be commented on but so many factors go into those stats that it is difficult. I say do session reviews, post hands, post positionals. You mentioned heads-up play... I'm not sure if many heads-up experts are frequenting this thread so posting huhu stats may not get you anywhere.

Are these HEM or PT3 stats?

if you dont know why I'm asking then you all should read this:

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=8381

Yes, we must be vigilant about 2 tenths of a percent differences.

It's much much bigger over the data that is shorter and shorter handed.

care to elaborate?

I think it's starting to average 35/25. Not much to add. I'm a FR playing just starting some 6max and I'm laggy FR so I figured I would end up being laggy 6max. Just wasn't sure what was laggy 6max and what was insane.

So you looked at your first 500 hands and was like "zomg my vpip and pfr is high!" before anything converged? Lol.

Ya 35/25 is the upper end of lagtag. I've heard of people playing around 40/30 profitably but like I said it is more profitable if you have nitty opponents. If you start getting 3bet a lot then you need to calm down imo.

yeah i doubt even oink could win playing 47/38/65. leader says he likes agg% to be around 55%, if I am paraphrasing and remember correctly. personally i think that even 55% is too aggressive, and 65% is raging maniac on steroids aggressive.

Can someone please approximate what the following pre-flop 5-6 handed stats should convert to 7-10 handed? I have finally accepted that I don't know anything about full ring stats, but want a 6-max perspective. Thanks!

35/25
26/18
50/30
40/10
60/5

A good idea would be to go to a fullring forum and say "can you it's give me vpip and pfr ranges for the following player types: lagtag, tag, maniac, loose passive fish, and total drooler"

I think I saw someone say that 25\19 was lagtag for fullring but don't qoute me. Btw do you have your HUD set up to filter for handedness? I've heard of it being done and curious if other people use it and how?

As far as I can tell, there are zero good full ring specialists online. So the last thing I want to do is ask them. I want to know these specific stat conversions, and I am sure someone will be able to give some decent approximations.

Ya, I have PT3 set to filter for handedness. In PT3, you just go to "configure hud" then "hud options" and then mess around in the "player ranges" box.

What's the deal between HEM and PT3 again? In HEM they don't count walks in the VPIP/PFR calculations. Does this not make HEM report higher VPIP and PFR?

+1. The best players in the FR games I play in are the same as the best players in the 6m games.

donjuan is about the closest is he not?

lol, I'm sure DJ plays fine but my FR play is all 5/T+ so I really don't know.

Oh, sorry for annoying you with small stakes talk.

np, just don't let it happen again

This has probably been talked about before but what is a reasonable WTSD percentage for the ps .5-1. and 1-2 games? Is 39 too high for 31/23 preflop? Taking into account all the loose-passives and plyrs/flop %?

i dont think 39% is too high

I haven't played a lot at these stakes, but here is what I have.

I did pretty well at .5-1 and showed down about 42% over a large sample

5-6 handed, i'm a only a little bit more loose - 32.7/24.2 and i sd 43.4%.

No, I think it is just about right. I like to be around 40, and my preflop is 29/21

My guess is that the 60/5 and 40/10 type guys should be roughly the same since they have low positional awareness. In practice I am guessing they are a bit lower. As far as TAG/LAG/LAGTAG stats, I think we'd really need someone to suggest ranges for the first four seats.

Also just wanted to add, I have no idea what the difference should be between UTG and UTG+1, for example. I imagine I open similar ranges in this spot, and in 6max I'd say the gap is wider. Whether this is good or bad, I dunno.