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03-27-2010 , 01:13 AM
what's the fun in "gambling" itself anyway? never understood that
I like poker as a competitive game of logic and a good and relatively easy source of income but never think of it or enjoy it as gambling
never had any motivation to play roulette or craps or whatever either, just don't get what's cool about it
03-27-2010 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ZOMG_RIGGED!
So then your brilliant point was to point out that in a forum dedicated to gambling there might be people who like to gamble? Thanks Sherlock, no one was able crack that riddle
why not consider the bill a gamble too?
03-27-2010 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
well you already payed 10-20k for no reason, not sure why the extra grand is such a big deal.
A grand is a grand regardless of how much you've already blown.
03-27-2010 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by daiquiri
what's the fun in "gambling" itself anyway? never understood that
I like poker as a competitive game of logic and a good and relatively easy source of income but never think of it or enjoy it as gambling
never had any motivation to play roulette or craps or whatever either, just don't get what's cool about it

bc you are a poorie. its cool bc rich ballas like zomg can throw away 20k and then brag about how it means nothing to them.
03-27-2010 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DrVanNostrin
A grand is a grand regardless of how much you've already blown.
see post above this
03-27-2010 , 01:19 AM
And I've never understood why people enjoying buying fancy cars, playing baseball, or vacationing anywhere that's cold. Is it really a shock to you that different people enjoy doing different things?
03-27-2010 , 01:23 AM
victor:

You are the most talented troll 2p2 has ever seen. I salute you, sir.
03-27-2010 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ZOMG_RIGGED!
And I've never understood why people enjoying buying fancy cars, playing baseball, or vacationing anywhere that's cold. Is it really a shock to you that different people enjoy doing different things?
no it's not a shock or anything, I mean I have no problem with it, just trying to understand.. is it some adrenalin rush you get out of it or is it the atmosphere around a craps table or what, no offense really, just curious
03-27-2010 , 01:25 AM
Do you ever add anything a conversation Victor? Or was your whole point in coming back to bless us with the insight that gambling at a casino is -ev?
03-27-2010 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by daiquiri
no it's not a shock or anything, I mean I have no problem with it, just trying to understand.. is it some adrenalin rush you get out of it or is it the atmosphere around a craps table or what, no offense really, just curious
All of the above? Why does anybody do anything that risky? It's like sky diving for people who are afraid of heights
03-27-2010 , 04:08 AM
lol i wouldnt call craps "risky"
03-27-2010 , 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by daiquiri
no it's not a shock or anything, I mean I have no problem with it, just trying to understand.. is it some adrenalin rush you get out of it or is it the atmosphere around a craps table or what, no offense really, just curious
first, i think you have to partly view poker as gambling or you are going to drive yourself crazy.

But you know that feeling you get when your in a monster pot, and you know villain is on a flush draw, and your held in anticipation of that river card. And your just thinking "Hold!!" Table games give you the same feeling, only every deal/roll, because you don't have to sit and wait to get dealt a hand, and they require little to no thinking/effort.

Also, it's fun when you win.

Last edited by Paul Valente; 03-27-2010 at 04:34 AM. Reason: And hell, i get some kind of sick pleasure out of losing too
03-27-2010 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Valente
first, i think you have to partly view poker as gambling or you are going to drive yourself crazy.

But you know that feeling you get when your in a monster pot, and you know villain is on a flush draw, and your held in anticipation of that river card. And your just thinking "Hold!!" Table games give you the same feeling, only every deal/roll, because you don't have to sit and wait to get dealt a hand, and they require little to no thinking/effort.

Also, it's fun when you win.
I feel so dead inside. I haven't had this feeling since 2008. Well, that's not true. I felt that way when I final tables a Stars freeroll last year. I guess that's why people like tournaments.
03-27-2010 , 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by daiquiri
no it's not a shock or anything, I mean I have no problem with it, just trying to understand.. is it some adrenalin rush you get out of it or is it the atmosphere around a craps table or what, no offense really, just curious
i had no idea you were a housewife all this time
03-27-2010 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GiantBuddha
I feel so dead inside. I haven't had this feeling since 2008. Well, that's not true. I felt that way when I final tables a Stars freeroll last year. I guess that's why people like tournaments.
+1, I sometimes feel it when I get it in late in a donkament, otherwise never have this feeling, only the frustration kind of "hold you ****er, hold, oh god damn it not again"
03-27-2010 , 05:19 AM
I lied. I still get a rush when BB tanks after I try to sexy the nuts multiway. But it's not like I'm concerned whether or not I'm going to win the pot:

Dealt to Hero J A

CO calls $10, fold, Hero raises to $20, BB calls $10, CO calls $10

FLOP ($60) Q A 3

Hero bets $10, BB calls $10, CO calls $10

TURN ($90) Q A 3 A

Hero bets $20, BB calls $20, CO calls $20

RIVER ($150) Q A 3 A A

Hero checks, BB bets $20, CO calls $20, Hero raises to $40, BB folds, CO calls $20

CO shows J Q
(Pre 28%, Flop 9.1%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero shows J A
(Pre 73%, Flop 90.9%, Turn 100.0%)

Hero wins $248
03-27-2010 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by skillgambler
lol i wouldnt call craps "risky"
Craps is definity "risky." it has one of the lowest house edges but the varience is pretty high.
03-27-2010 , 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ZOMG_RIGGED!
Craps is definity "risky." it has one of the lowest house edges but the varience is pretty high.
Have you seen The Big Town?
03-27-2010 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by skillgambler
lol i wouldnt call craps "risky"
fire bet!

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Originally Posted by ZOMG_RIGGED!
Craps is definity "risky." it has one of the lowest house edges but the varience is pretty high.
depends how u play . . .

but there is always the lady who rolled 154 rolls without crapping out, and i believe the record for 7's in a row is some absurd number as well

Last edited by Paul Valente; 03-27-2010 at 06:40 AM.
03-27-2010 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GiantBuddha
I feel so dead inside. I haven't had this feeling since 2008. Well, that's not true. I felt that way when I final tables a Stars freeroll last year. I guess that's why people like tournaments.
so true. i know its silly, but if i final table where the first place is even $500 i get that feeling like im on a rollercoaster.

ive kinda evolved with my stance on table games. when i first came here i was like, thats so dumb, you lose money long run why the **** would you ever do that.

now its like, people spend money on all kinds of different things that are fun, how is this any different? ty to whoever convinced me of that. now im an expert at baccarat
03-27-2010 , 08:24 AM
That's only true if you only play tournaments sometimes. MTT pros have to have a completely different mindset to survive - losing for that long and that often is seriously business.
03-27-2010 , 10:31 AM
kinda have a predicament i want input on.

theres this girl whos 16 and pregnant. her bf is a total piece of ****. he goes out like every night and has her convinced hes doing night shift, even though hes told her he doesnt get paid for it (lol men are awful at lying), and she eats it up (16 y/o girls havent fully developed their bull**** detector yet).

shes totally infatuated with him, thinks shes in love. truth be known its probably just the whole baby pregnant feeling thing. oh and hes 24 y/o, kinda sick imo.

i feel really terrible and i know with like 99% certainty that hes just going to ditch her when the baby is born.

im kind of torn here, do i

a) do nothing, im not involved and it can stay that way. let someone else deal with it, but theres a possibility no one does anything

b) tell her the guys a ****ing liar, dump him and everything that comes with that
c) ????

theres a possibility that option b blows up in my face, she views me as the ass hole, but thats not really my main concern obv.

also on option a), im pretty sure her family have kind of disowned her somewhat on account of being 16 and pregnant, so they're no good in terms of helping her.
03-27-2010 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DrVanNostrin
victor:

You are the most talented troll 2p2 has ever seen. I salute you, sir.
not even close, you guys are just easy.
03-27-2010 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Valente
i think river vbetting is alot different in FR than 6max. I think you have to vbet tighter in FR on the river, and it's because of this mentality;
6max- I have an A, i call all the way and hope he has a draw.
FR- I have an A, I call flop and turn trying to catch an ace, fold river UI.

Basically, people are calling the river a little less light, so you have to adjust your vbet range accordingly. Also, beware, don't discount AJo because the guy open limped in MP, happens all the time in FR.

Theres also different villain types than you see in 6max; the 8/4 supernits, the 15/0 guys that "make sure a good flop comes" before raising their AA, etc . . .

note: also, in live play make sure you take rake into consideration. for example, if they are raking x amount regardless of flop/potsize, it may make blindstealing pointless if they rake $6 of the $15 you're trying to steal
This is a great post, i've not seen live FR v. online 6m defined so succinctly.

Last time at foxwoods 4-8 UTG limps, I raze AQ MP1, maybe some callers but not relevant, I bet down Axxxx rainbow, UTG tanks for maybe 20 seconds and makes a crying call, how can I ever not be good here right? Oops, LOL AK, NH sir.

Last edited by shuinthehouse; 03-27-2010 at 11:49 AM.
03-27-2010 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by daiquiri
what's the fun in "gambling" itself anyway? never understood that
I like poker as a competitive game of logic and a good and relatively easy source of income but never think of it or enjoy it as gambling
never had any motivation to play roulette or craps or whatever either, just don't get what's cool about it
I'll join you in the very small minority, been in a casino maybe 50-ish times for poker, usually about 12 hours, and never even put a quarter in a slot machine, let alone played craps or blackjack. I can't put money on a bet I know is -EV, unless it's a charity raffle for my kids' school or something like that.

      
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