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07-05-2008 , 02:04 PM

#151

boc4life

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Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,910

Quote:

Originally Posted by yourface

beat: took me 4 months to play that many hands. a grinder I am not

quit playing DOTA, imo

07-05-2008 , 02:59 PM

#152

GiantBuddha

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,910

Disconnect abuse + lower stakes = maximum value, imo

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with J

2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, BB calls, CO calls

Flop: (6 SB) T

(3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, CO calls

Turn: (4 BB) K

(2 players)
Hero bets, CO is disconnected and treated as all-in, blah, blah, blah

River: (4 BB) K

(2 players)

Final Pot: 4 BB
Hero shows Jd Ad (a Royal Flush)
CO mucks Ah 6d
Hero wins 4 BB

07-05-2008 , 03:03 PM

#153

Heisenb3rg

banned

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,957

Alright, im so sick of this run of cards that I didnt even think was possible (its not my results im pissed at, its the cards.. When you play 500k hands you get a feel for when something out of this world is happening)

I think im moving to HUHU, cause it seems to be the only thing I can win at.

07-05-2008 , 03:15 PM

#154

sebastien

adept

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 966

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Pre-Flop: K

dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls

Flop: (4.5 SB) 9

(2 Players)
BB bets, Hero calls

Turn: (3.25 BB) 2

(2 Players)
BB bets, Hero calls

River: (5.25 BB) Q

(2 Players)
BB bets, Hero calls

Results: 7.25 BB Pot (0.25 BB Rake)
BB showed 6 J (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-3.5 BB NET)
Hero showed K J (a pair of Nines) and WON 7 BB (+3.5 BB NET)

these day i play some MTT.
Maybe it's more sick than limit....
always plays about 3hours and loose against 2 or 3outs...

07-05-2008 , 03:44 PM

#155

boc4life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg

When you play 500k hands you get a feel for when something out of this world is happening)

Or you just get a feel for when your half-million hand heater is ending

J/K heis, hope it turns around for you soon

07-05-2008 , 08:07 PM

#156

milesdyson

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Absolute Poker $10/$20 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with J

3 folds, BTN raises, SB calls, Hero calls

Flop: (6 SB) 2

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets, SB calls, Hero calls

Turn: (4.5 BB) 4

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, BTN calls, SB folds

River: (6.5 BB) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero raises, BTN folds

Final Pot: 8.5 BB
Shwag
Hero wins 8.2 BB

07-05-2008 , 08:13 PM

#157

maniacut

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,976

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 5

1 fold, MP calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, MP calls

Flop: (5.5 SB) 8

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP calls

Turn: (3.75 BB) 6

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP calls

River: (5.75 BB) T

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls

Spoiler:

07-05-2008 , 09:02 PM

#158

yourface

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,657

fold to rvr raise vs most

07-06-2008 , 12:55 AM

#159

mute

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Party Poker $50/$100 Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 8

1 fold, Hero raises, BTN 3-bets, SB caps!, BB calls, Hero calls, BTN calls

Flop: (16 SB) 2

(4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, BTN calls

Turn: (10 BB) J

(4 players)
SB bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BTN folds, SB calls, BB calls

River: (19 BB) 2

(3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero caps!, SB calls, BB calls

Spoiler:

Party Poker $50/$100 Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN/BB with T

SB calls, Hero raises, SB calls

Flop: (4 SB) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls

Turn: (3 BB) 7

(2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps!, SB calls

River: (11 BB) 7

(2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls

Spoiler:

07-06-2008 , 01:09 AM

#160

JarnoV

adept

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 960

Quote:

Originally Posted by yourface

fold to rvr raise vs most

Probably true, but would also probably make it profitable for the opponent to take the legendary "float the turn on Ace high board and bluff-raise the river with any two" line. ;-)

07-06-2008 , 02:05 AM

#161

Heisenb3rg

banned

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,957

Quote:

Originally Posted by yourface

fold to rvr raise vs all in theory, but vs few in practise

FYP

07-06-2008 , 03:57 AM

#162

Wolfram

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JarnoV

Probably true, but would also probably make it profitable for the opponent to take the legendary "float the turn on Ace high board and bluff-raise the river with any two" line. ;-)

I think you can counter that by calling some percentage of the time and folding the rest.

07-06-2008 , 04:01 AM

#163

waffle

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Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,728

Quote:

fold to rvr raise vs all in theory, but vs few in practise

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg

FYP

I think it's the other way around. Since it's a 7.75 BB pot, you want to use the alpha ratio in order to determine how many of your hands you fold to the raise: A very small %. However, since it's 2/4, you can deviate from the nash play and fold most of your hands in order to exploit the fact that your opponent doesn't bluff raise the river often enough.

07-06-2008 , 04:28 AM

#164

JarnoV

adept

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 960

[QUOTE=waffle;4963058However, since it's 2/4, you can deviate from the nash play and fold most of your hands in order to exploit the fact that your opponent doesn't bluff raise the river often enough.[/QUOTE]

It's my bad habit to go about explaining other people's points, but I think that by "in theory" Heisenberg didn't mean "game theory optimal" but that people know that it's probably the best exploitive response (hence, "in theory") but actually click the call button anyhow (hence, "in practice"). Just like in the statement: "in theory I know how to quit smoking but in practice I don't".

07-06-2008 , 06:22 AM

#165

Wolfram

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Agree with Jarnov.

I would love to get into pokerstars databases and query how often people fold top pair to a river raise. We would probably need to discount a few % to misclicks. And maybe not include super coordinated boards like 4-flushes or 4-straights

07-06-2008 , 10:19 AM

#166

Heisenb3rg

banned

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,957

Quote:

Originally Posted by waffle

Obviously it's probabily not GTO to b/f, but IMO you are betting a very small % of your hands for value and this one is the worst ace you are value betting.

But the most important fact is no one besides insane ppl c/r bluff this river, because no one folds once they 3-barrel on a board like this. The 3rd barrel is extremly rarely a bluff, and when its not, its a hand they are betting for value so at least KQ+. The only way its a c/r bluff is profitable is if ppl fold Ax HU, and no one does this.

Hence why you have an easy fold.

07-06-2008 , 11:02 AM

#167

timoK

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,721

finally stars didnt **** me up for 30 days in a row

07-06-2008 , 12:55 PM

#168

yourface

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,657

ya pretty much noone bluffs there so i think its ok to fold the bottom of my range to a raise

07-06-2008 , 01:01 PM

#169

badbeatLOL

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 319

July sucks so bad
the weather is beautiful outside and all i do is sit in front of my PC to grind VPPs and lose over 200BBs in about 10k hands that i played this month

Thanks Stars

07-06-2008 , 01:05 PM

#170

ZOMG_RIGGED!

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 17,508

ugh. glad this promotion is finally over, cause I'm mentally spent. I'm not sure how I feel about how I did. I played like **** but I cleared 90k+ VPP's and $12K+ so I'm not sure I have room to complain. Sort of like listening to someone whine about how their wallet is too small to hold all their $100 bills or how their 15 inch **** keeps falling out the bottom of their shorts.

cliff notes: ugghgh. played like ****, still won, really feel like I shoul dhave hit the promotion harder to make SNE this year

07-06-2008 , 01:41 PM

#171

timoK

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,721

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOMG_RIGGED!

...or how their 15 inch **** keeps falling out the bottom of their shorts.

this starts also if "him" is only 11"

07-06-2008 , 02:01 PM

#172

MacGuyV

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Has anyone ever rescued an injured bird? Please advise. There's one outside my apt and it's the saddest thing ever.

07-06-2008 , 02:10 PM

#173

waffle

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Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,728

From googling: Call a vet, call a wildlife rehabilitator in your area.

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~devo0028/contactA.htm
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~devo0028/contactN.htm
http://www.wildlife-rescue.org/
http://members.aol.com/jswildliferes...scue/w_z2.html

07-06-2008 , 02:22 PM

#174

ZOMG_RIGGED!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MacGuyV

Has anyone ever rescued an injured bird? Please advise. There's one outside my apt and it's the saddest thing ever.

you have any big boots imo?

07-06-2008 , 02:36 PM

#175

Oink

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,309

How big and how injured?

If something is broken kill it
If you think he just might have taken a hit or something put in in a shoe-box maybe with a small bowl of water. If it isnt up and about within a few hours, kill it

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