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12-14-2012 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
While I agree with your sentiment in general, it appears not to be so in this case. He wasn't a terrorist. Apparently his kid went to that school and his mother (whom he shot) was a teacher there.
fmp
12-14-2012 , 10:40 PM
We stopped correcting you ages ago.
12-14-2012 , 10:42 PM
maybe you guys should not sell freaking firearms like an ipod to any random ****** with a few thousand (or hundred?) bucks. just sayin.
12-15-2012 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by daiquiri
maybe you guys should not sell freaking firearms like an ipod to any random ****** with a few thousand (or hundred?) bucks. just sayin.
Just not gonna happen. It's a cultural thing. Attempting to control firearm sales risks a second civil war in this country.

A few hundred can get you the type of handgun used in most of these mass shootings.

You do have to pass a background check and such to buy a handgun, but it's obv very easy to just buy one on the black market or "borrow" a friend's or whatever.
12-15-2012 , 03:37 AM
tryptamean/skill gambler, i'm travelling with my GF, and we don't plan on heading to phuket, but tryptamean is sick good at LHE and I imagine skill gambler too, I'd love the chance to grind once with you guys, and/or drink a beer, but I doubt I'll be heading to Phuket.. out of my way and not on my plan, of heading from BKK to Siem Reap.. kk i'm heading to the Korean Bath house now, (just finished watching shaky camera horror film called Alien Abduction Incident in Lake County)
12-15-2012 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded





We rarely see anything resembling the truth about these incidents until years later.
Maybe if we had more press to get to the bottom of it.
12-15-2012 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
Just not gonna happen. It's a cultural thing.
Then the cultural thing needs to be changed first ldo. It's a process obv but it's not something impossible..

At the first half of the 20th century having a black president would have sounded impossible because of a "cultural thing" (I think you can call widespread racism a cultural thing in the same sense as this firearm-entitlement phenomenon). Or think of women's suffrage, etc.

Last edited by daiquiri; 12-15-2012 at 10:17 AM. Reason: I hope you are noticing and appreciating the capitalization and punctuation, lol
12-15-2012 , 10:21 AM
hey daiquiri whats your opinion on gun laws in switzerland
12-15-2012 , 10:43 AM
had to look it up tbh..
"The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations"

When you are conscripted, you have to take various psychological tests as a filter (that's how it used to be here in Hungary when we had conscription, and I'm pretty sure it's done much more carefully in Switzerland, knowing their general mentality). Then you are being monitored under a relatively high pressure military environment, reports are written about you.. In the end if you qualify, you will have to keep a firearm at home..

Compare this with random idiot walking into a firearm store, showing an ID and walking home with a Bushmaster Carbine.

Obviously this doesn't guarantee that such incidents wouldn't happen, but a very strong filter is obviously better than virtually no filter at all..
12-15-2012 , 12:01 PM
Just got this email, pretty exciting times imo

Dear busness friend,


I am writing to you to let you know of fantastic busness oppertunety for you.
You all have to do is give me your bank detail (this includes your credit card number, expiry dayte and the three figure secrity number from the back of the card) !!



Once I have this infermations I will send you details of how to continue with the busness oppertunetys for you and your family.


Sincerly to you from my heart,
Raheem.
12-15-2012 , 12:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daiquiri
had to look it up tbh..
"The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations"

When you are conscripted, you have to take various psychological tests as a filter (that's how it used to be here in Hungary when we had conscription, and I'm pretty sure it's done much more carefully in Switzerland, knowing their general mentality). Then you are being monitored under a relatively high pressure military environment, reports are written about you.. In the end if you qualify, you will have to keep a firearm at home..
we have a similar thing in norway as well and i think i can recall one incident in the last 15 years or so when some guy used it to kill his gf and then himself.
The thing imo is that u need keep guns a long distance away from guys who arent trained and mentally stable enough to handle one.

I was listening to a guy on cnn saying that if just more people would have had guns then less people would have died in this school and in a lot of other public shootings. A significant number of americans actually think that would be a good idea?
12-15-2012 , 12:12 PM
He had me until "oppertunetys".
12-15-2012 , 12:16 PM
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12-15-2012 , 12:17 PM
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12-15-2012 , 12:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tryptamean
hey daiquiri whats your opinion on gun laws in switzerland
a trip to walmart to buy a gun is quite different from a trip to the military to get a gun
12-15-2012 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by henholland
we have a similar thing in norway as well and i think i can recall one incident in the last 15 years or so when some guy used it to kill
I think I can recall one more...
12-15-2012 , 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Royston Vasey
Just got this email, pretty exciting times imo

Dear busness friend,


I am writing to you to let you know of fantastic busness oppertunety for you.
You all have to do is give me your bank detail (this includes your credit card number, expiry dayte and the three figure secrity number from the back of the card) !!



Once I have this infermations I will send you details of how to continue with the busness oppertunetys for you and your family.


Sincerly to you from my heart,
Raheem.
**** you, not only do I miss every stars milestone hand, I don't even get letters like this
12-15-2012 , 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daiquiri
I think I can recall one more...
heh i meant as a result of this military arrangment of letting trained semi-soldiers keep rifles at home
12-15-2012 , 02:14 PM
http://extempore.livejournal.com/180946.html

Gun control advocates are such first level thinkers.
12-15-2012 , 03:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daiquiri
Then the cultural thing needs to be changed first ldo. It's a process obv but it's not something impossible..

At the first half of the 20th century having a black president would have sounded impossible because of a "cultural thing" (I think you can call widespread racism a cultural thing in the same sense as this firearm-entitlement phenomenon). Or think of women's suffrage, etc.
Hehe, you deleted the part where I said this would risk a 2nd civil war. I am not exaggerating.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero Protagonist
http://extempore.livejournal.com/180946.html

Gun control advocates are such first level thinkers.
I think about buying a gun/getting a concealed handgun license sometimes, but it really tilts me that I can't legally bring the gun into most places.
12-15-2012 , 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unguarded
Hehe, you deleted the part where I said this would risk a 2nd civil war. I am not exaggerating.
No, I understand that. That's why I made my point that the culture/attitude should gradually be changed first, and when the attitude had changed, it's time to change the regulations too.
12-15-2012 , 04:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daiquiri
had to look it up tbh..
"The vast majority of men between the ages of 20 and 30 are conscripted into the militia and undergo military training, including weapons training. The personal weapons of the militia are kept at home as part of the military obligations"

When you are conscripted, you have to take various psychological tests as a filter (that's how it used to be here in Hungary when we had conscription, and I'm pretty sure it's done much more carefully in Switzerland, knowing their general mentality). Then you are being monitored under a relatively high pressure military environment, reports are written about you.. In the end if you qualify, you will have to keep a firearm at home..

Compare this with random idiot walking into a firearm store, showing an ID and walking home with a Bushmaster Carbine.

Obviously this doesn't guarantee that such incidents wouldn't happen, but a very strong filter is obviously better than virtually no filter at all..
Would it be possible in Hungary for a person to become a law enforcement officer, then end up in the most elite law enforcement agency in the nation, like the FBI in the U.S., and for that person be approved to acquire firearms? And then for that person to have a son that became unhinged for some reason, steal your firearms, and then go on a rampage? Because from the last reposts I've seen, that's what happened here.
12-15-2012 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Quote:
Originally Posted by pig4bill
While I agree with your sentiment in general, it appears not to be so in this case. He wasn't a terrorist. Apparently his kid went to that school and his mother (whom he shot) was a teacher there.
fmp
Media gonna media tho...

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a former school board official, said “no one has heard” of Lanza and that “teachers don’t know her.”
12-15-2012 , 05:37 PM
If someone wants a gun enough they'll find a way to get one

      
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