I'm not sure if you're denying anything, but in this thread you seem to be ignoring things like this (quoted from above):

“It appears to be legal, no matter how much you charge,” Dr. Caplan said, adding that there appears to be little or no oversight of the processing fees. “It’s a very gray and musty area as to what you can charge.”

If and how to better regulate this process to prevent libs selling and feasting on poor innocent babies is worth looking at.

'Planned Parenthood is Not Selling Baby Parts, You F*cking Idiots'

Foldn... who is "feasting" on them? Cite corroboration, or stop peddling that talking point...

You're increasingly sounding like an unhinged RW fundamentalist. Gear down, and get YOUR facts straight.

You mean using devisive language like calling fetuses "babies" and "feasting" in place of profiting hinders communication on these sorts of serious issues and can prevent political consesus?

As someone who is devoid of real emotions, you are in no way qualified to speculate about anything that involves genuine feelings.

Direct emotional speculation as an ad homimem is doomed to fail. It's not even a quality assertion.

so no one is eating babies of profiting off fetuses... got it. ... There goes your overarching argument.

Curious... Why do you hate research fighting Parkinson's and HIV so much that you bastardize language?

Wait, how do you know a fetus isn't a baby, and how do you know people aren't profiting off fetuses? You disgusting baby cannibal!!

So you admit you're being facetious...

No one is eating babies or fetuses... No one is profiting off donations for scientific research... Read the link, comment on the assertions therein, or STFU, lunatic.

fyp

The admission I read elsewhere is far more funny than lampooning abortion fanatics.

I'm not so much worried about the morality of profiting off of tissue rather than the incentives a market would create. I don't mind companies being compensated for cost, provided they are in line with what is expected. That happened in a lot of things.

That link adds nothing, just some clown trying to defend PP for committing mass genocide for money. You can't prove when a fetus becomes a child, you just draw some random line where it is convenient claiming it's backed by "science" so you can go on ****ing whores and eating their children, you piece of **** monster!

There being little to no oversight turns these into laws without a means to enforce them. So it is essentially legal, as long as nobody shines a light on it too brightly.

It's one thing to be able to profit from selling blood or semen, because those can be regenerated by the body, but there are good ethical reasons selling your own organs isn't legal, because we need them and our bodies will not regenerate them. People in debt, addicted to drugs, etc. would do it, and others might be pressured to do it.

The same ethical reasons don't apply to selling fetuses, because they are not needed and can be regenerated. I guess it's currently not legal because... yuck, but should we be as comfortable with it as selling our blood? Should couples be allowed to finance their summer trips with spring abortions? Why not?

wow, dude... you're gonna stick with the eating children bit... LUUUUUUNATIC!!!

Might wanna take your ritalin and go to the beach. Calm blue ocean, and stuff.

Jiggs,

I''m pretty sure that Foldn is arguing a POV that is not his own. As he stated earlier ITT:


My guess is that this, much like a good portion of Foldn & Chezlaw's posts in PU, is yet another failed attempt to score a point in the great re-de-re-de-green BruceZ proxy war.

ok, my mistake.... I can't keep up with all the doublespeak here... but nothing surprises me.

Clearly most are having a bit of fun with this rather than being too serious. You missed that i think.

Only a lunatic would imagine there's some war going on but whatever.

I tried to give hints without spoilers.

Foldn said in the mod thread he was lampooning the style of a certain regular poster as a religious rightwing abortion shamer. It's multi-level parody/satire rather than doublespeak.

Maybe you haven't heard of what the religious right calls 'spiritual warfare'. It is combat waged mostly by forcing a big fake shame/guilt trip in the name of deity upon everyone who doesn't conform their beliefs.

I mean only a lunatic would confuse it for some proxy forum war.

I wasn't talking about you. Sorry if that wasn't clear

You missed the fact Foldn and others are enjoying being a bit silly in this thread but you weren't the lunatic managing to confuse a bit of fun with some proxy war about Bruce

Old gossip is even staler than old news. However lying for The Lord is an element of spiritual warfare. I suspect some religious right speakers intentionally exaggerate fetus into babies and other distortions based on this kind of belief.

I doubt this. I was raised Presbyterian and still have plenty of friends and family who are devout Christians. They believe without a doubt life begins at conception and that a fetus is a living human being. There's no exaggeration going on. The logic is simple: as with any other living being, if cared for a fetus will go on to live a full life. The prenatal phase is just another stage in the life cycle, like infancy, childhood and adulthood. The idea it is not a human being because it has not yet fully developed it's brain is ludicrous to them because it is growing, and will continue to throughout much of its life. In fact, science shows us a child's brain isn't fully formed until around age six, so they aren't wrong.

It doesn't even take a hard-core lunatic Christian to believe this, plenty of non-religious folks would never have an abortion for the same reason. That majority (?) tend to yield to the practicality of legal abortion at the polls, but are the targets of the religious right who seek to overturn pro-abortion laws. I believe there is still a sense in most people a fetus is alive and it's this sense that allows us to charge and convict a murderer with double homicide for killing a pregnant woman. I'd suggest that's really the only reason there are laws on the books preventing people from selling their fetuses in the same way they can sell their blood and semen.

Trying too hard, we know you're just kidding