Sometimes you just aren't that hungry.

They can't run fast.

Limits can (and, IMO, should) be discussed, but does anyone have a non-religious reason as to why abortion is not ok before the cerebral cortex and synapses are formed at about 6 weeks?

It seems even the staunchest right-to-lifers should be ok with this, but they aren't. If something doesn't have a functioning brain, in what sense is it a person?

It has a soul since conception according to Saint Augustin

Who knew sperm slamming into an egg actually created a soul?

Maybe the Big Bang was such a slamming and the universe is actually a soul?

Oooh, the theological politics of eating babies!

How can invisible sky father know someone before they are formed in the womb if not by their invisible immortal essence? If he wants to become visible and talk about this, I am available anytime for a public, face to face chat.

The fact that he never shows up for anything is big check against controlling and punishing people based upon his alleged word and the word of people who base their assumptions upon it.

Human rights, however, do at least show up somewhere observable. Could be pure luck that I can use my own invisible essence to consider and determine the right to choose is not something to be prohibited, punished, or condemned.

It is actually none of my business beyond having a political interest in creating and maintaining a society that operates with tangible human rights. Freedom from being controlled by religion, freedom to have a religion that doesn't try to control or intrude upon human individuality and free choice. Freedom to have control and providence over my own body and to each their own with mutual equality.

Let's talk sky daddy, anytime.

Op = pseudo intellectual rush limbaugh. lol smp. Just dumb white guys w little to no life experience who think they are part of some prestigious think tank.

agreed... post was horrible. ... no one bought sportscars, or anything, for that matter.

McDeep

Well you guys wanted to know why anti abortion people tend to go all kit and caboodle, that's why. Of course in a secular society you can't just come out and say it, and that's why there is a seemingly incoherent push to end all abortion, because of the unstated premise that from the moment of inception whatever it is has a soul that God put there and to interfere with it is to interfere with God's plan. Usually people aren't scientifically sophisticated to differentiate between aborifacts and whatever else theologically so they just lump them all in with being evil.

You people are disgusting and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Your faux outrage was worse.

I wonder why there hasn't been much serious discussion on the ethics of this process in this thread? Seems like an interesting topic. Pretty good article here on Snopes: http://m.snopes.com/fetal-tissue-sales/

Because only you have a problem with recouping the cost of a consensual procedure for the advancement of science.

The religious right "pro-life" position is so anti-factual and chocked full of forced emotion it may as well be widely known as a lampoon of itself.

Whatever you say, hannity. You're on the same level as birthers.

I'm fine with them doing an audit to make sure they're really just covering costs but I don't see much wrong with the underlying morality

That's the issue, that their is little to no oversight. So, it seems there is room for people to profit from this, and perhaps they even do. Do you think it should be considered moral to profit from selling your own organs or aborted fetuses?

The ones profiting aren't PP, yet they're taking all the flak from conservatives.

When will those misguided, uneducated, illogical conservatives ever learn?

Even supposing I did, that's not the issue. Whether and how much we should allow people to profit from selling human tissue is a moral issue that people on all sides are debating, as they should be.

Even supposing I were, that's not the issue. But I can see why you wouldn't think about the issue deeply enough to notice when you're being attacked and shamed for positions you may or may not actually hold... you despicable piece of ****!

Sounds like the cold, misguided logic of a disgusting, baby-eating lib.

libs gonna stick to their guns, it doesn't matter the merits or facts of the issue, they're gonna tow the party line. Conservatives too. No need for anyone to make their brain hurt by using it... life is so much easier when the tough decisions are already made for you.

USA! USA! USA!

When bombastic meets mockery in a debate about the profit margins of fairly-owned fetal tissue.

OMG I said we own babies, I must love slavery and Obama like a hypocrite! Hahahahahahagavakkmaahaha!

Foldn, since you brought your Nanna into the discussion, I would like to offer her refreshments and baked goods.

curious... what "facts" are pro-choice advocates denying here?