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How do I know you're white? And are there no non-white libertarians?

And for that matter, where did I make a generalization? I described the people I've interacted with on 2+2.

See, some of you guys are so caught up in playing the poor victimized white male that you literally make **** up that isn't happening!

The irony of doing it while ignoring the evidence of actual discrimination is just so tasty. PU should be called cooking with politards.

11-01-2015 , 10:17 PM

#202

sweep single

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jjshabado

Nobody is saying companies are allowed to pay women less. To try to carry that out as a plan is blatantly illegal.

Thank you for answering my question...Don;t get how replacing someone that someone else will do his same work for less is illegal. But OK

11-01-2015 , 10:22 PM

#203

jjshabado

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sweep single

Thank you for answering my question...Don;t get how replacing someone that someone else will do his same work for less is illegal. But OK

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class

Hope that helps.

11-01-2015 , 10:22 PM

#204

justjaidii

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jjshabado

Well, you can address the idea of letting companies do what they want, including women starting their own businesses and hiring the equally qualified and underpaid. As to my understanding of laws now, it would be illegal for women to do that.. I think it should be legal. You can ignore the fact that I used the word libertarian. When I go to get a haircut, if I don't want to choose a woman, or an older person, I am free to do that. I don't understand why it can't work the other way. You can continue to insult people, or you can explain what's wrong with this logic.

11-01-2015 , 10:26 PM

#205

jjshabado

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I totally understand you don't get it.

11-01-2015 , 10:28 PM

#206

justjaidii

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You forgot to include 'patriarchy' and 'privilege' in your post.

11-01-2015 , 10:29 PM

#207

jjshabado

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Nope. I didn't.

11-01-2015 , 10:41 PM

#208

Shame Trolly !!!1!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by justjaidii

... When I go to get a haircut, if I don't want to choose a woman... I am free to do that. I don't understand why...[it's not the same as Walmart hanging up the "blacks need not apply" sign]...

Quote:

Originally Posted by justjaidii

... Most of the libertarians I've met are clear thinking rational people...

LMFAO... one thing we can always count on from our LTers, they will always contradict themselves.

So... if you #feel it's OK for the owners of FedEx (the shareholders) to vote to put up the "X need not apply sign"... do you also #feel it's OK for the owners of the Post Office (the taxpayers) to vote the same? If not why not?

11-01-2015 , 10:43 PM

#209

Lilu7

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Controlling for the same job, men do make about 7% higher but this has been found to be because they negotiate more than women. Should negotiating salaries be eliminated in order to help equalizing gender pay differences?

11-01-2015 , 10:44 PM

#210

justjaidii

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Shame Trolly, Figure it out for yourself.

11-01-2015 , 10:48 PM

#211

jjshabado

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I'll give the mythers credit for doing really well at avoiding any comparison to race.

11-01-2015 , 10:52 PM

#212

Shame Trolly !!!1!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by justjaidii

Shame Trolly, Figure it out for yourself.

What... why LTers always contradict themselves. I already know why.

Or do you want me to figure out if, or if not, you personally #feel it's OK for the Post Office to put up the "X need not apply" sign? WTF BBQ... I can't read your mind. If you are consistent you'd be cool with that sign going up. But as I've mentioned, LTers are always internally self-contradicted... so I really have nothing to go on here.

Care to actually engage?

11-01-2015 , 10:56 PM

#213

Roonil Wazlib

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So much tone policing, these guys could be SMPers!

11-01-2015 , 10:57 PM

#214

kerowo

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I like he thinks the customer/business owner relationship is symmetrical. That there is no difference in one customer not buying from one business and one business not selling to an entire group of people.

11-02-2015 , 12:07 AM

#215

iosys

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look at that poor white man in this thread lol

11-02-2015 , 12:27 AM

#216

DudeImBetter

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Dude, let businesses be free. If they want to sell child sex services to pedos and all parties are good to go, I don't see what the BFD is. Ditto for Walmart owners demanding anal sex from female employees.

11-02-2015 , 04:42 AM

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Kukraprout

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Worst "male nerds discuss women" thread ever.

11-02-2015 , 05:26 AM

#218

iosys

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Yah its worth 1 star

11-02-2015 , 06:31 AM

#219

Bladesman87

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rastamouse

This is an important thing to point out to identity-obsessed social justice warriors such as yourself.

It shouldn't be, but it is. If you could somehow confirm that I lived in a white, suburban neighborhood with an exclusively white friendship group (the kind that most of you no doubt stereotyped me as having), you'd all leap on it instantly as a source of ad-hominem attacks.

You're from Sheffield I presume with a name like that? Yorkshire being white as a sheet of course.

I'd bet a lot of money that you're embarrassed by the demographic of your friendship group. You shouldn't be of course, but I'm quite confident that the fact that I've got more demographic diversity among my friends (despite being a horrible, hateful conservative) is a source of annoyance to you.

And of course, a source of amusement to me.

Sometimes I cry at night because I don't have enough ethnic friends to cover up my prejudices.

11-02-2015 , 06:35 AM

#220

Bladesman87

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rastamouse

One thing that springs to mind (I went to a football match today so its on my mind) is the ethnic composition of football crowds.

Walk through Plaistow or Aston (West Ham/Aston Villa's local areas) and its like walking through a cross between Sierra Leone and Pakistan.

Get into the stadium and there'll be about six non-white people there.

Yet there's absolutely no difference whatsoever in the levels of popularity in football across different ethnic groups. Black, white, Asian, we all love it.

I wonder if football crowds have had recent histories of explicit racism...

11-02-2015 , 09:47 AM

#221

sputnik3000

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kukraprout

Worst "male nerds discuss women" thread ever.

Its funny that everytime that womens issues or other gender related issues is discussed there is always someone chiming in with a comment just like this. Is this subject so uncomfortable? Are you afraid that if you speak your mind about something that involves women that you will get shunned and no woman will ever want anything to do with you?

It is often the one writing a comment like this that is the male beta nerd. The one that is so afraid of having an opinion because they are so insecure when it comes to women that they think that just nodding along makes it more likely that women somehow will choose them.

11-02-2015 , 10:16 AM

#222

kerowo

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LMAO

11-02-2015 , 10:29 AM

#223

Roonil Wazlib

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i hope putznik's scientific paper on dopey underachiever boys is titled 'the male beta nerd' as a nod to his own dopey underachieving history as a failed man

11-02-2015 , 10:34 AM

#224

DudeImBetter

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I'm interested to know more.

Sput, what outcomes are you looking at w/ these boys, and what moderators are you accounting for?

Lit review of his paper would be epic. Can you imagine? How many chain emails, unsubstantiated opinion pieces and poorly done studies from 40 years ago?!