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11-28-2015 , 01:50 PM
Which threats are you talking about? The threat that caused he to abort a talk at a college? The ones aimed at her and her family (as well as Brianna Wu) or the countless threats she gets on twitter?
11-28-2015 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Which threats are you talking about? The threat that caused he to abort a talk at a college? The ones aimed at her and her family (as well as Brianna Wu) or the countless threats she gets on twitter?
Well let's be brutally honest here, Gizmo. Has there ever been a case where one of these women have actually been physically harmed? Like, some crazy psycho 14 year old who likes playing world of warcraft is going to break into their father's gun closet and start a mass murder?

Or are we more likely to believe that it's a bunch of nerds on the internet harassing/trolling someone, which happens pretty much every single day?
11-28-2015 , 01:55 PM
Wil, why do you refer to women as "females"?
11-28-2015 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Well let's be brutally honest here, Gizmo. Has there ever been a case where one of these women have actually been physically harmed? Like, some crazy psycho 14 year old who likes playing world of warcraft is going to break into their father's gun closet and start a mass murder?

Or are we more likely to believe that it's a bunch of nerds on the internet harassing/trolling someone, which happens pretty much every single day?
Again, this is not an answer to a question that was asked.
11-28-2015 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Wil, why do you refer to women as "females"?
Is "female" an unacceptable term? I'm making it very clear that in these cases their gender is of utmost importance. If they were males, we wouldn't be discussing this.
11-28-2015 , 02:04 PM
Surprised it took wil so long to get to "bitches be lying"

Holy **** at wil linking to guy who is openly pro rape legalization.
11-28-2015 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Again, this is not an answer to a question that was asked.
The one where her home address was posted.
11-28-2015 , 02:10 PM
I actually thought this was 90 percent bull**** but after seeing wil's reaction, his excuse that "this is no big deal gamers use rape threats all the time", and the terrible people wil has linked too I now think this woman is really into something and this clearly does need to be addressed.
11-28-2015 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
The one where her home address was posted.
Were you not aware that there have been multiple threats? I'm going to assume you did not because you are clearly woefully ignorant on this topic.

Anyway, Anita was going to speak at Utah State University, but the talk was cancelled when the school received a terrorist threat.

Do you think that maybe this is why her lectures are proceeded by screenings?
11-28-2015 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LetsGambool
Surprised it took wil so long to get to "bitches be lying"

Holy **** at wil linking to guy who is openly pro rape legalization.
Oh god. You're the biggest dildo on the internet. Do you really think I support "rape legalization"? I copy and pasted some links, and if they can be attributed to some unsavory people, I didn't realize it. If so, do you really think I'd use them?

Christ you really need a ****ing life.
11-28-2015 , 02:13 PM
and if you read the article I linked to, you can also read the other women who have been threatened, specifically Brianna Wu who left her home after she received a death threat listing her home address.
11-28-2015 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Were you not aware that there have been multiple threats? I'm going to assume you did not because you are clearly woefully ignorant on this topic.

Anyway, Anita was going to speak at Utah State University, but the talk was cancelled when the school received a terrorist threat.

Do you think that maybe this is why her lectures are proceeded by screenings?
I'm well aware of it, and I'm unsure why you think I wasn't. I think it was a gross exaggeration used for her benefit.

No one is going to kill her. It's possible, but I highly doubt it. There's no way to prove it so it doesn't matter, but the idea is laughable. It's comical. It's a joke.

The threats to her aren't real. Just like when I played video games and someone said to me before a match "I'm going to rape you" weren't real. No one is going to come to her home and rape and murder her. They may say it, but they don't mean it.

Are we totally clear now?
11-28-2015 , 02:23 PM
I wonder what could have given me the impression that you were ignorant about what you were talking about.
11-28-2015 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
I wonder what could have given me the impression that you were ignorant about what you were talking about.
Once again, I ask for people's honesty in this matter. They have these people's addresses. They could come to their homes if they really wanted to. They could actually harm them. Has any of that occurred?

I guarantee you if someone like Sam Harris had his home address posted he'd have a serious problem. Someone would actually probably attempt to murder him. Brianna Wu? Not so much.
11-28-2015 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I'm well aware of it, and I'm unsure why you think I wasn't. I think it was a gross exaggeration used for her benefit.
11-28-2015 , 02:34 PM
Yeah. I read it quite a while ago. I also read that they weren't going to cancel it and Utah State security was going to make some changes to ensure her safety. She decided to cancel it.

What's the point? It sounds pretty harsh but many death threats are made to public speakers and they go on with it.
11-28-2015 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Once again, I ask for people's honesty in this matter. They have these people's addresses. They could come to their homes if they really wanted to. They could actually harm them. Has any of that occurred?

I guarantee you if someone like Sam Harris had his home address posted he'd have a serious problem. Someone would actually probably attempt to murder him. Brianna Wu? Not so much.
So when these women have been threatened, they shouldn't have been worried?

I will honestly admit I'm confused as to what your argument is.
It appears to be:
Threats happen online, deal with it.
Even if the threats include your home address, you shouldn't be worried.
You probably threatened yourself anyway.
No one is going to kill or rape you anyway.
11-28-2015 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Oh god. You're the biggest dildo on the internet. Do you really think I support "rape legalization"? I copy and pasted some links, and if they can be attributed to some unsavory people, I didn't realize it. If so, do you really think I'd use them?
Should we take this to mean that you no longer consider those links to be reasonable arguments in favor of your assertion that Sarkeesian was faking the threats? And if they don't reasonably support your argument, due to the obvious bias and lack of substantiation, then what evidence do you actually have?

I mean the entire point of calling out the inanity and bias of those links was to show you that your argument was very poorly constructed. If all of your information comes from similar sites you need to reevaluate your process for finding good sources of information.
11-28-2015 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Yeah. I read it quite a while ago. I also read that they weren't going to cancel it and Utah State security was going to make some changes to ensure her safety. She decided to cancel it.

What's the point? It sounds pretty harsh but many death threats are made to public speakers and they go on with it.
Utah said they couldn't guarantee safety because of the state's conceal and carry laws, when Anita asked for metal detectors and they declined, she cancelled.

Are you aware of the Montreal Massacre?

Anita has had several other death/bomb threats and carried on before and after this event. Indeed she was going to at Utah, but the aforementioned gun laws gave her pause.
11-28-2015 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
Should we take this to mean that you no longer consider those links to be reasonable arguments in favor of your assertion that Sarkeesian was faking the threats? And if they don't reasonably support your argument, due to the obvious bias and lack of substantiation, then what evidence do you actually have?

I mean the entire point of calling out the inanity and bias of those links was to show you that your argument was very poorly constructed. If all of your information comes from similar sites you need to reevaluate your process for finding good sources of information.
Your pony is slow and unnecessarily verbose.

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Wil doesn't see a problem with using the above as evidence.

What a dip****.
11-28-2015 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
So when these women have been threatened, they shouldn't have been worried?

I will honestly admit I'm confused as to what your argument is.
It appears to be:
Threats happen online, deal with it.
Even if the threats include your home address, you shouldn't be worried.
You probably threatened yourself anyway.
No one is going to kill or rape you anyway.
Because the nature of the threat is to be considered. All threats are not the same. We agree on this point, correct?

For example, a death threat from an online gaming community is different from radical Islamists, or radical Christians threatening an abortion clinic. Some have history of actually occurring and should be taken into careful consideration. The other is jello.


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Originally Posted by well named
Should we take this to mean that you no longer consider those links to be reasonable arguments in favor of your assertion that Sarkeesian was faking the threats? And if they don't reasonably support your argument, due to the obvious bias and lack of substantiation, then what evidence do you actually have?

I mean the entire point of calling out the inanity and bias of those links was to show you that your argument was very poorly constructed. If all of your information comes from similar sites you need to reevaluate your process for finding good sources of information.
I don't support them in their entirety, but I do take their points into consideration. I don't think there is anything biased about the claim that if she truly was threatened through twitter she should have provided law enforcement with the information so that the person who did it could be tracked down and brought to justice. She didn't, which makes me question her honesty.
11-28-2015 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Your pony is slow and unnecessarily verbose.
that's kind of my thing, yo.
11-28-2015 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Utah said they couldn't guarantee safety because of the state's conceal and carry laws, when Anita asked for metal detectors and they declined, she cancelled.

Are you aware of the Montreal Massacre?

Anita has had several other death/bomb threats and carried on before and after this event. Indeed she was going to at Utah, but the aforementioned gun laws gave her pause.
Yes. We know this. She's had threats at other speaking events and had no issues.

Yes, we are aware there are some serious nutjobs in the world, but the likelihood of anything happening to her probably low. Definitely lower than she'd portray.
11-28-2015 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Because the nature of the threat is to be considered. All threats are not the same. We agree on this point, correct?

For example, a death threat from an online gaming community is different from radical Islamists, or radical Christians threatening an abortion clinic. Some have history of actually occurring and should be taken into careful consideration. The other is jello.
I'll give you time to google Marc Lépine and the imagery invoked by the Utah threat.
11-28-2015 , 02:47 PM
I've read about it. He blamed feminists for ruining his life. He killed 13 women.

What's your point?

      
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