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09-16-2016 , 09:01 PM
And, being correct in this instance is bittersweet. Ive been predicting this **** for months now. There's still some hope but she's such a ****ing meh candidate she can't pull it off. She's just not capable of doing it.

We can only root for him to do something that hurts himself so much that he can't recover, and that is definitely >0%.
09-16-2016 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I don't have to lean over far. Shrug. What can I say.
I always pictured you for a really short guy. Explains the impotent rage
09-17-2016 , 01:27 AM
As with almost everything you couldn't be more wrong.
09-17-2016 , 04:47 AM
Yeah, I'm 98% sure wil got curious and took my off ignore for a second. Bad timing. Jimmies confirmed rustled.

I mean, what manner of absurdity is the following house of cards, all crudely constructed to protect a neurotic psyche from it's own trumpness:

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Originally Posted by wil318466
Hahahah. Thank you so much for this loltastic answer. So you truly don't understand, do you? I thought maybe you actually did know the underlying reason but are just a stubborn fool and won't give up your tactics. That's not the case. You truly don't know why.

Wow. You people are so out of touch and so brain washed you really don't understand how to read people anymore.

Yeah dude, a complete idiot is about to become president of the united States, and you can't articulate why. Is it because people think he's smart? Lol, no. Maybe more than half the country is racist? Do you think that's truly the answer?

Or maybe you and the rest of your ilk created such a toxic environment that independents are itching to drop a nuclear bomb on the idiot left to shut you guys the **** up.

Get your head out of your ass and try thinking like how your opponent's think instead of projecting how you think is how everyone else thinks, and the answer is right there in front of you.

It's a moot point now anyway, as I think the election is essentially over by the end of next week. The next time he takes the lead will most likely be the last time, she won't recover unless he does something incredibly stupid, which he has been better at avoiding lately. Im surprised you're smart enough to see that this early. I only hope we are somehow both wrong. I doubt it though.
09-17-2016 , 04:53 AM
In attempt to weave this into the titular topic, I'll say it must be quite the shocking revelation to wake up in your late 30s and realize that society has not progressed because of men like yourself but directly despite men like yourself.
09-17-2016 , 05:01 AM
That's what's so disturbing about these anti-Kaepernickians and TRUMP supporters and other basketed deplorables, they think they're the actual beacons speaking truth to power. They think they're the sheep amidst the wolves and each the hero of their personal story. But you mother****ers are not the sheep, and you're certainly not the heroes.
09-17-2016 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
That's what's so disturbing about these anti-Kaepernickians and TRUMP supporters and other basketed deplorables, they think they're the actual beacons speaking truth to power. They think they're the sheep amidst the wolves and each the hero of their personal story. But you mother****ers are not the sheep, and you're certainly not the heroes.
Somebody is on Tilt!
09-17-2016 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
What is the positive outcome of such a protest?

What is the point of this post?

Obviously this pissed off some of the students as demonsrtations like this tends to do. Therefore, an increased police presense seems warranted. It doesn't sound like anybody was arrested. The police were doing there job. They were there to protect.

The black community absolutely has some legitimate gripes with the system. What I don't understand is how you expect to get anything changed when your pissing people off and acting in an instigative manner like this.

Your tactics better change quickly or your going to ignite a race war. Have you noticed the sharp increase in hate groups in this country since the BLM began?

BLM needs to do a much better job of communicating what they are really about. The average white person thinks that the BLM is all about hating cops and white people. Unfortunately there is not a high percentage of white people who are willing to do the research and find out there is much more to this movement than they think. The BLM has a major optics problem.
09-17-2016 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
What is the positive outcome of such a protest?

What is the point of this post?

Obviously this pissed off some of the students as demonsrtations like this tends to do. Therefore, an increased police presense seems warranted. It doesn't sound like anybody was arrested. The police were doing there job. They were there to protect.

The black community absolutely has some legitimate gripes with the system. What I don't understand is how you expect to get anything changed when your pissing people off and acting in an instigative manner like this.

Your tactics better change quickly or your going to ignite a race war. Have you noticed the sharp increase in hate groups in this country since the BLM began?

BLM needs to do a much better job of communicating what they are really about. The average white person thinks that the BLM is all about hating cops and white people. Unfortunately there is not a high percentage of white people who are willing to do the research and find out there is much more to this movement than they think. The BLM has a major optics problem.
Not surprisingly, you have no support to back up your "fact" which is of course wrong. Lets go to the tape (You know, because I know how to actually use sources unlike the stupid mother****er I'm replying to.)

Hmmmm, when was black lives matter created?

http://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

So, 2012, after Trayvon Martin was murdered by Zimmerman, who was subsequently let off without even a slap on the wrist.

Ok, so fact 1. BLM was created in 2012. Your claim was that the number of hate groups have risen since their creation.

SLPC, what say you about that?

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

Oh... oh ****. Weird, since 2012, the number of hate groups has fallen? By more than 100? Well damn... that doesn't sound like a rise to me.

I mean, I know I'm just a stupid liberal, but I was always taught by my socialist schooling that in order for something to increase, the number had to go up.

Hmmm, and whats the largest rise of hate groups since 2014?

Oh yeah, that would be anti-Muslim hate groups, at 42%. Gee, I wonder what prominent figure in American Politics might lead to a rise of Anti-Muslim hate groups. I bet it's totally Patrisse Cullors the founder of BLM, and not an Orange ****ing maniac who said we should prevent Muslim Immigration full stop, including Muslim Americans who had travelled abroad.

Once again, to you, facts don't matter. You live in a post fact world, where what you feel is what is reality. Luckily for me and a lot of others here, I live in a world where facts still exist. I can use citations, numbers, stats, and a number of other ways to show your claims are just pure, overpoweringly fragrant bull****.

**** you.
09-17-2016 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Not surprisingly, you have no support to back up your "fact" which is of course wrong. Lets go to the tape (You know, because I know how to actually use sources unlike the stupid mother****er I'm replying to.)

Hmmmm, when was black lives matter created?

http://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

So, 2012, after Trayvon Martin was murdered by Zimmerman, who was subsequently let off without even a slap on the wrist.

Ok, so fact 1. BLM was created in 2012. Your claim was that the number of hate groups have risen since their creation.

SLPC, what say you about that?

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

Oh... oh ****. Weird, since 2012, the number of hate groups has fallen? By more than 100? Well damn... that doesn't sound like a rise to me.

I mean, I know I'm just a stupid liberal, but I was always taught by my socialist schooling that in order for something to increase, the number had to go up.

Hmmm, and whats the largest rise of hate groups since 2014?

Oh yeah, that would be anti-Muslim hate groups, at 42%. Gee, I wonder what prominent figure in American Politics might lead to a rise of Anti-Muslim hate groups. I bet it's totally Patrisse Cullors the founder of BLM, and not an Orange ****ing maniac who said we should prevent Muslim Immigration full stop, including Muslim Americans who had travelled abroad.

Once again, to you, facts don't matter. You live in a post fact world, where what you feel is what is reality. Luckily for me and a lot of others here, I live in a world where facts still exist. I can use citations, numbers, stats, and a number of other ways to show your claims are just pure, overpoweringly fragrant bull****.

**** you.
This is why you will continue to live in your self imposed miserable existence. I know your a miserable person based on how you post. It would benefit you greatly to reread my posts and let this knowledge soak in. What your doing now is not working.
09-17-2016 , 10:43 AM
BTW...The KKK has increased from 72 groups in 2015 to 190 this year.

How do you like me now?
09-17-2016 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
This is why you will continue to live in your self imposed miserable existence. I know your a miserable person based on how you post. It would benefit you greatly to reread my posts and let this knowledge soak in. What your doing now is not working.
This is exactly what I expected. I completely, 100% without a doubt refuted an incorrect claim by you, and instead of saying "You know what, yeah, my bad. My claim was wrong. I ****ed up. You doubled down and are trying to indicate that my use of facts is somehow a fault.

Thats ****ing crazy man. You lied, I called you on it, and somehow, that is a bad thing.

Again, **** you.
09-17-2016 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
What is the positive outcome of such a protest?

What is the point of this post?

Obviously this pissed off some of the students as demonsrtations like this tends to do. Therefore, an increased police presense seems warranted. It doesn't sound like anybody was arrested. The police were doing there job. They were there to protect.

The black community absolutely has some legitimate gripes with the system. What I don't understand is how you expect to get anything changed when your pissing people off and acting in an instigative manner like this.

Your tactics better change quickly or your going to ignite a race war. Have you noticed the sharp increase in hate groups in this country since the BLM began?

BLM needs to do a much better job of communicating what they are really about. The average white person thinks that the BLM is all about hating cops and white people. Unfortunately there is not a high percentage of white people who are willing to do the research and find out there is much more to this movement than they think. The BLM has a major optics problem.
Wear a black shirt to school and start a race war. White people are both immensely sensitive and always a hair trigger away from that imagined race war that black people always seem to be responsible for avoiding
09-17-2016 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
BTW...The KKK has increased from 72 groups in 2015 to 190 this year.

How do you like me now?
So, white power groups are increasing, and your conclusion is that Black Lives Matter will be responsible for a race war?
09-17-2016 , 10:57 AM
And again, the catalyst that you claim (The creation of BLM in 2012) is ****ing wrong. The increase of KKK groups began in 2015, a huge jump from 2014. I wonder what Orange psychopath came into prominence in 2015 that might have fueled such?

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...ates-2015#klan
09-17-2016 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
So, white power groups are increasing, and your conclusion is that Black Lives Matter will be responsible for a race war?
No. I think the BLM is only contributing to a potential race war. It takes two to Tango.
09-17-2016 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Wear a black shirt to school and start a race war. White people are both immensely sensitive and always a hair trigger away from that imagined race war that black people always seem to be responsible for avoiding
These are just merely the sparks that could start a fire.

I still didn't get an answer to my questions above.
09-17-2016 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
And again, the catalyst that you claim (The creation of BLM in 2012) is ****ing wrong. The increase of KKK groups began in 2015, a huge jump from 2014. I wonder what Orange psychopath came into prominence in 2015 that might have fueled such?

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...ates-2015#klan
Orange psychopath?
09-17-2016 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
No. I think the BLM is contributing to a potential race war. It takes two to Tango.
Right, which is why it isnt happening you ****ing chump. One group supports violence against a race of people, the other is anti-violence in their official releases. Care to take a stab at which is which?
09-17-2016 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Right, which is why it isnt happening you ****ing chump. One group supports violence against a race of people, the other is anti-violence in their official releases. Care to take a stab at which is which?
Both sides promote the safety and advancement of their people yet only one side is considered racist and a hate group.
09-17-2016 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
What is the positive outcome of such a protest?...
What people who've never done any demos or actions often don't realize a massive positive outcome is what happens personally to the folks who participate, and especially those who help organize, these events. Sure dancing with the Robocops can be a little scary... but take my word, it's hard to explain just how much fun it is. It's like sex, drugs, NVDA... with R&R being a distant third.

Realizing that me & you can take direct action, instead of mindlessly and futily trusting the donkeys & elephants to fix everything for us, is almost always a personal revelation. No matter what these HS kids wore to school, they all got a glimpse of this 'alternate' reality. That's a life lesson >>> most of what they teach in HS. Those who helped organize this demo gained incredibly valuable experience in organizing. Networked connections have surely been established.

Like flying, every single demo or action you can walk away from is a success. Every single one.

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... an increased police presense seems warranted. It doesn't sound like anybody was arrested. The police were doing there job. They were there to protect...
I wasn't there, so I can't speak of the details at this HS. But often, OK pretty much always, the Robocops/etc are deployed to intimidate and suppress the demo through fear tactics.

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... What I don't understand is how you expect to get anything changed when your pissing people off and acting in an instigative manner like this. Your tactics better change quickly... The BLM has a major optics problem...
You have exactly 0% experience organizing demos or actions, correct? Why do you presume to give tactical advice to IRL activists? This is as absurd as me, who isn't even a soccer fan, giving tactical advice to a World Cup coach.

Second, this whole attitude is most certainly a lie, and is terribly patronizing. If you got better tactics in mind, spit them out. It's incredibly patronizing to say a movement led by black folk doesn't know WTF they're doing... and you, most probably a white folk and an opponent to boot, know better than them.

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... or your going to ignite a race war. Have you noticed the sharp increase in hate groups in this country since the BLM began?...
Nah, the leadership of BLM is primarily conservative and reformist. They fear a race war way more than you do... partially because they know black leaders get lynched during these wars.

Demos that are a success will generate a reaction. The more successful, the larger the reaction. The KKK, etc are, of course, reactionary organizations.
09-17-2016 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
My daughter wore black to school that day too, but we live in a suburb of Memphis, so I don't think there was any heavy police presence.

Wait, that was a suburb...I'm confused.

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09-17-2016 , 11:58 AM
Thanks for the reply Shame!

I'm looking at this from an optics standpoint. I mentioned that the average white person doesn't accurately inderstand the motivation or intent of the BLM. I think the BLM should be more proactive and aggressive with communicating their message. Unfortunately, other groups have hijacked the BLM name in order to further their more racist/anti cop agenda.

I don't have experience in organizing events like these. I do have plenty of experience observing events like these and talking about it with other white people. The response is usually negative. I'm just relaying to you how the other side perceives the situation whether it's right or wrong.

Based on your response, i may have underestimated the benefits such protest can have on the individuals taking part. Based on recent results, I feel a more inclusive way of getting the message out may be better instead of this you against me premise. This is how its perceived on the other side.
09-17-2016 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
And again, the catalyst that you claim (The creation of BLM in 2012) is ****ing wrong. The increase of KKK groups began in 2015, a huge jump from 2014. I wonder what Orange psychopath came into prominence in 2015 that might have fueled such?

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...ates-2015#klan
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