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10-19-2016 , 10:27 PM
There is no belief that there is cultural superiority. Rather, it's a long history of feeling like the weak man of Asia dating back to the Opium Wars, through Japanese occupation, through the horrors of the cultural revolution. Whenever you have a long period of feeling downtrodden, followed by a quick industrialization and modernization, it leads to a sense of jingoistic fervor.

An earlier poster mentioned the rape of Nanking. The occurence of such a tragedy makes a Chinese invasion of Japan much more likely. When you dehumanize an entire country as heartless genocide commiters, it makes the invasion of that country more justifiable.

This is all the more compounded by the state control of all media. That despite Mao setting China back 30 years, the current regime continue to push Maoist ideals and Mao as a paragon of virtue. Why? To retain power and have the citizens ignore or overlook the many internal problems.

The younger generation in China are less enamored with the communist party but at the same time has solely focused on money to the ignorance of social justice and political activism.

All this creates a powder keg if the Chinese economy ever tanks. It is similar to the scenario described in 1984 in which foreign conflicts are used to divert a country from domestic issues.
10-19-2016 , 10:33 PM
What the Japanese did to the Chinese is horrible. Apart from humiliation and conquest, the Japanese acted like sub-human monsters, including all kinds of horrific medical experiments on thousands of Chinese. To this day they still cover up and defend it, and haven't apologized. The Chinese have long memories and don't forget that quickly. Their hatred isn't without basis.

Spoiler:
Thousands of men, women and children interred at prisoner of war camps were subjected to vivisection, often without anesthesia and usually ending with the death of the victim.[14] Vivisections were performed on prisoners after infecting them with various diseases. Researchers performed invasive surgery on prisoners, removing organs to study the effects of disease on the human body. These were conducted while the patients were alive because it was feared that the decomposition process would affect the results.[15] The infected and vivisected prisoners included men, women, children, and infants.[16]

Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss. Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body. Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen, then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.

Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines. Parts of the brain, lungs, liver, etc., were removed from some prisoners.[14]

Japanese army surgeon Ken Yuasa suggests that the practice of vivisection on human subjects (mostly Chinese communists) was widespread even outside Unit 731,[6] estimating that at least 1,000 Japanese personnel were involved in the practice in mainland China.

By the way, the history-rewriting liberal losers who had a problem with the (very humane and reasonable given the insane level of emperor-worship in the populations) interments in the US should read the above, to get a sense of the enemy at the time.

The desire to subjugate Japan has to do with a lot more than economics.

Last edited by ToothSayer; 10-19-2016 at 10:47 PM.
10-19-2016 , 10:48 PM
Of course it's not without basis. Things such as the Japanese prime minister visiting Yasukuni yearly definitely doesn't help.

All these things make the prospect of war in Asia more likely.
10-19-2016 , 10:55 PM
Is this the China thread?

I think whether you like Trump or not you have to agree that he showed he would be a very strong President. He showed his quick thinking and intelligence tonight. He wasn't perfect by any means but he outclassed Hillary tonight. Hillary was the same over rehearsed Hillary as she always is.

I think Hillary won the first debate. I think Trump won the second debate but I wasn't happy with his body language. This debate, Trump was in control and very Presidential. I think you can throw away the polls in this election. It's gonna be close.
10-19-2016 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
I am Chinese born and I agree much more closely with Toothsayer's position on China than some of the others.

China's internal problems are more likely to lead to external conflict, not less.
The people criticizing tooth are muppets who have no idea what they are talking about. People like samson and problem eliminator are leftist ***** who just want to spout their ignorant opinions.

This entire discussion on China is loltastic.
10-19-2016 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Is this the China thread?

I think whether you like Trump or not you have to agree that he showed he would be a very strong President. He showed his quick thinking and intelligence tonight. He wasn't perfect by any means but he outclassed Hillary tonight. Hillary was the same over rehearsed Hillary as she always is.

I think Hillary won the first debate. I think Trump won the second debate but I wasn't happy with his body language. This debate, Trump was in control and very Presidential. I think you can throw away the polls in this election. It's gonna be close.
I'm surprised at what happened tonight. Hillary didn't look very good but maybe she was just playing it safe? Trump rambled a bit, but it appears he won.
10-19-2016 , 11:03 PM
can one of those on the "China will invade Japan" train explain how that will happen? And i mean that literally, like how will they get the 1m+ soldiers theyd need there? D-day times 100? keep in mind that Japan is a lot further from China than France from Cornwall. Are they gonna parachute 100,000 special forces in? Links showing that China has or will have this capability would be appreciated.
10-19-2016 , 11:17 PM
Japan, a small island country with little natural resources, managed to conquer 2/3 of Asia and fought the US to a standstill prior to Midway and you somehow doubt today's China with its vast resources, production capabilities, and army can take over Japan?
10-19-2016 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I'm surprised at what happened tonight. Hillary didn't look very good but maybe she was just playing it safe? Trump rambled a bit, but it appears he won.
Everyone but breitbart is saying she dominated this debate. Your grasp on reality is lacking. Sorry wil.
10-19-2016 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I'm surprised at what happened tonight. Hillary didn't look very good but maybe she was just playing it safe? Trump rambled a bit, but it appears he won.
He is definately evolving. He does ramble to much and I think he showed his temper with the puppet comment. Overall he stayed still and poised.

When Hillary gets mad she puts on that fake smile. She did it a lot tonight.
10-19-2016 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by samsonh
Everyone but breitbart is saying she dominated this debate. Your grasp on reality is lacking. Sorry wil.
It's hard to take someone serious as a poster when they use words like "everyone" and "dominated" in a debate that was certainly not dominated by either candidate.

Trump did what he had to do by showing he is in charge. He showed that Hillary will get pushed around by other countries like Obama has. People are tired of weakness. People are tired of hearing the Democrats say they are going to make things better. Really? When? What have they done for you?

They have severely wounded this country. It's time for action. Hillary sounds like a broken recording. She's a criminal and her husband is a rapist and you idiots are voting for her. What does that make you?
10-19-2016 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
Japan, a small island country with little natural resources, managed to conquer 2/3 of Asia and fought the US to a standstill prior to Midway and you somehow doubt today's China with its vast resources, production capabilities, and army can take over Japan?
yes, i very very doubt it. In the 1930s Japan was the only developed, modernized country in East Asia. So it wasnt terribly difficult, especially since Japans military gained experience over decades prior to the start of WW2, starting with the Russo-Japanese war, the takeover or.Korea continuing to the China-Japan war.

Where will be the staging bases for this invasion? When the US invaded Iraq it took months and months of.build up, but Im.assuming your theoretical Chinese attack is more of a surprise attack.


And why are you all assuming that the US would allow that to happen?
10-19-2016 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I'm surprised at what happened tonight. Hillary didn't look very good but maybe she was just playing it safe? Trump rambled a bit, but it appears he won.
Bahahahahaha.

What a stupid mother****er.
10-19-2016 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Bahahahahaha.

What a stupid mother****er.
This dude is like the Rick Moranis character in Ghostbusters. Do you just look out your peep hole all day creeping on the world waiting to pounce?
10-19-2016 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator
yes, i very very doubt it. In the 1930s Japan was the only developed, modernized country in East Asia. So it wasnt terribly difficult, especially since Japans military gained experience over decades prior to the start of WW2, starting with the Russo-Japanese war, the takeover or.Korea continuing to the China-Japan war.

Where will be the staging bases for this invasion? When the US invaded Iraq it took months and months of.build up, but Im.assuming your theoretical Chinese attack is more of a surprise attack.


And why are you all assuming that the US would allow that to happen?
We're not assuming anything about the US. I thought the discussion was about the level of support for Chinese expansionist policies within both the Chinese Government and amongst the Chinese people?
10-20-2016 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
It's hard to take someone serious as a poster when they use words like "everyone" and "dominated" in a debate that was certainly not dominated by either candidate.

Trump did what he had to do by showing he is in charge. He showed that Hillary will get pushed around by other countries like Obama has. People are tired of weakness. People are tired of hearing the Democrats say they are going to make things better. Really? When? What have they done for you?

They have severely wounded this country. It's time for action. Hillary sounds like a broken recording. She's a criminal and her husband is a rapist and you idiots are voting for her. What does that make you?
Trump rushed out of the debate hall because he lost. Hillary stayed because it was a celebratory event. Trumpnis unable to control his emotions and even vocalize a coherent thought.
10-20-2016 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by samsonh
Everyone but breitbart is saying she dominated this debate. Your grasp on reality is lacking. Sorry wil.
And people wonder why I call you an idiot?
10-20-2016 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by amoeba
We're not assuming anything about the US. I thought the discussion was about the level of support for Chinese expansionist policies within both the Chinese Government and amongst the Chinese people?
Its about both. Obviously whether Chinese want to invade and conquer Japan (a view Ive never seen expressed by any Chinese person) is pretty irrelevant if they cant. Besides the post i was replying to was talking solely abiut Chinas ability to do.it, based on their population and natural resources.
10-20-2016 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator
Its about both. Obviously whether Chinese want to invade and conquer Japan (a view Ive never seen expressed by any Chinese person) is pretty irrelevant if they cant. Besides the post i was replying to was talking solely abiut Chinas ability to do.it, based on their population and natural resources.
I am no military expert but I assume prior to any war, both sides do a cost benefit analysis of the situation.

I think your assessment that China can't because American support will always be there is somewhat naive. To pull it back to this thread, Right now, we have a US presidential candidate that talks about leaving US allies to fend for themselves and it's about the 100th most controversial topic in this election. You can't forsee a future US President that is more sensible on other topics but advocates a reduction in armed forces and a limited global interventionist policy?

I know that you live in China but I can't imagine Chinese views towards Japan is a topic that comes up very often. I mean, I have never talked to my relatives about it.

Also, my earlier comments were not to imply that all Chinese people are war mongering expansionists but rather that if war was to happen in Asia between China and a neighboring country, the domestic support would be high.

Its good that you brought up the Iraq war. In 1990, no American would agree to a war in the middle east. Yet the first war had bipartisan support and the second war had 50% support. And this was a war in a land far away against a non traditional enemy. The US is also a country in which the media is not state run and anti war sentiments are not suppressed.

Compare that to the current political climate in China. 1/4 of primetime TV shows are about "Kang Ri".
10-20-2016 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by samsonh
Trump rushed out of the debate hall because he lost. Hillary stayed because it was a celebratory event. Trumpnis unable to control his emotions and even vocalize a coherent thought.
This is why wil likes him.
10-20-2016 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I'm surprised at what happened tonight. Hillary didn't look very good but maybe she was just playing it safe? Trump rambled a bit, but it appears he won.
lol there it is
10-20-2016 , 02:34 AM
Thought she owned. Pretty much.
10-20-2016 , 02:45 AM
Even if the act of rape is caught on live camera, these guys strongly believe that's consensual.
10-20-2016 , 02:46 AM
Hilary did much better in this debate than the previous two. The third debate was a pretty dominant performance.
10-20-2016 , 05:25 AM
" No puppet! No puppet! You're the puppet! "

Was my favorite part.

      
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