In 30 years blacks won't even be a significant voting bloc...their numbers are dwindling...

We understand you are so clueless, but my question is How do you manage to remain so? It couldn't take more then a few minutes to find statements on just about any pro choice site, from many politicians, etc that answer this question. I would think you would have to go out of your way to remain ignorant of 'why'.

The other reason you don't understand is it would require empathy and compassion where you are too much of a self centered dirtbag. Also, if you had a little intelligence you could probably figure out several reasons why the poor might want access to healthcare and abortions and why people who are can empathize (something you clearly lack but with a little more brains you might understand it) with their plight.

Raptor eggs, not Robin's. But the bigger view of your ignorance is thinking that DDT is the only way to fight malaria, or that it is the most effective, or that environmentalists wanted to ban DDT for anti-malarial use. In general, they were not. They wanted DDT banned for agricultural use.

No, it isn't. Advocating the use of birth control is. (and "healthcare"...you think giving people access to healthcare is a method of population control? Geez.)

I'm supposed to have empathy and compassion for strangers wanting and being able to get abortions??? Why the **** would i have empathy and compassion for something like that?!?!?

And don't mistake that comment for being pro-life because I am not.

I understand why some women would want an abortion, but I don't get why people not directly connected to someone getting an abortion would care about this issue. I have a guy friend who is really passionate about women being able to abort their baby and donates money to the cause. Really??? 1st off you're a dude and 2nd, I can think of plenty of truly unfortunate things that people in America and all over the world have to deal with where I would have compassion and empathy and donate money too, before donating money and having empathy for some chick who got knocked up and wants to get rid of the fetus. Like um...sorry? Too bad? I don't care?

This is completely wrong. Black population is growing in real terms and as a percentage of the overall population.

Shorter Silver_Man2 post:

Absolutely...

Why on EARTH would ANY narcissistic elitist corrupt politician give a crap about the riffraff drifting around the country on Greyhound buses who can't afford health insurance?

It's pretty easy to see how things are unfolding. Doctors are getting out of the profession, there won't be enough resources to care for all the truly ill. Old people won't be provided the care they need.

Those *******s went to the end of the earth to get that thing passed, and you think they did all that because they care about the poor??? Remember Biden said "this is a big ****ing deal" in that creepy way? What? Do you think after Obama gave the speech they went behind closed doors and toasted about how excited they were that the unwashed masses will finally be able to be cared for now? HA. Nonsense. Something much more nefarious going on, man.

Wat?

14 million blacks are not here today because of legalized abortion and 1 in 2 black women get an abortion. If the trend continues they will be be an insignificant voting bloc in a couple decades. They are being targeted. Sanger is smiling in her grave.

Wow, your opinions on health care are actually more stupid than your opinions on race. I would have lost money on that bet.

What temperature do you think steel melts at?

Your statement is still false.

Also, it's pretty amazing that you are still going with the "Sanger wanted to exterminate balcks" angle after being shown that you completely misread her quote. I noticed you dodged those posts.

Keep being stupid.

"[Slavs, Latin, and Hebrew immigrants are] human weeds ... a deadweight of human waste ... [Blacks, soldiers, and Jews are a] menace to the race. Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent
Multiplication of this bad stock." -- Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review .

NOT A RACIST

Show me where I am misreading that quote, 13ball. I mean...... she sounds so not racist I bet her and AlexM would have been besties if they lived at the same time.

I don't think there's any way to penetrate his type of world-view with facts or reason. It requires the explicit assumption that one's true motivations cannot be determined by one's words, due to the global conspiracy of powerful "elitists" with a secret populaton-control-related agenda:

So Silver_Man could spend all day reading the PP mission statement etc., but to him these statement are perfectly consistent with a racist genocidal cabal that's trying to hide their true purpose. In his world-view, the truth of a statement is determined not by any objective standard, but by how well it aligns with a preconceived notion.

EDIT: He apparently remains unable to see the irony of his attempt to convince people about somebody else's true motivations by using their words as evidence.

"[Slavs, Latin, and Hebrew immigrants are] human weeds ... a deadweight of human waste ... [Blacks, soldiers, and Jews are a] menace to the race. Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent
Multiplication of this bad stock." -- Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review .

FOUNDER OF PP

Do you have a source for that quote? The google isn't helping me find it. Looking through the wiki-quotes page on her it sounds more like she was classist than a racist. She didn't want the poors to keep pumping out poor children.

A) lol at the brackets in that quotation. Not buying it. (And why is she grouping Jews, blacks and soldiers? Soldiers?)

B) I didn't say she wasn't a racist. She might have been. That doesn't mean she wanted to exterminate blacks. Also, MLK supported her and he was smart and usually didn't support racists, so her racism doesn't seem likely.

This has been posted multiple times itt. I'm not going through it again since you obviously haven't paid attention anyway.

Yeah, when I first read that she gave a speech to the KKK's women's branch, that is the first thing I thought of to describe Sanger... a classist!

I wonder why the KKK would invite a progressive woman like Sanger to give a speech to them. Hmmmm...???

You are misquoting Sanger.
FWIW, Sanger stopped writing for/editing the Birth Control Review in 1929.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/fil...aretSanger.pdf

No, tell me how I am misreading the last quote about jews and black and slavs and how she isn't racist.

Dude, she's explicitly saying we need to keep them from multiplying and you are saying she MAY be racist.

WTF else do you need? Half the people in this thread would call someone a racist for choosing a white cupcake over a black one, and Sanger MAY be racist after you read that last quote?

“I accepted an invitation to talk to the women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan…I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses…In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered.” (Sanger 366)

THE KLANNNNN

So that is your rebuttal to me for calling you out for misquoting Sanger?

lol

"I think black people are inferior and the KKK has awesome costumes that are quite comfortable." --Silver_Man2

RACIST. KLAN. ADMIRES STRANGE FASHIONS.

http://library.lifedynamics.com/Birt...04%20April.pdf

Here is a copy of April 1933 Birth Control Review

Sanger is not an author of any of the articles.