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04-07-2015 , 03:44 PM

#1401

chezlaw

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Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 48,945

Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

So what's the consensus view on what happened to BruceZ?

Did he leave because he was asked to by the higher-ups?

Did he feel deeply ashamed of his position and decide to just evacuate?

Did he get chased out by the mob and feel he could never post here again without being harassed?

Is this a correlation =/= causation issue, and perhaps other life circumstances changed and prevented him from posting?

Other?

Try considering any reason why after 15+ years of contributing so much to 2+2 for nothing he would want to continue doing so?

Would you?

04-07-2015 , 03:45 PM

#1402

DudeImBetter

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Yes, he sees you mean to pile on with accusations and mischaracterizations. I mean your stupid enough to either lie or be completely mistaken of how I took being de-modded. You have a long history now of posting content-less derision and mockery. You're just here because your mistaken sense of infallibility when it comes to calling people racist is terribly shaken by better information.

What's your take on why you were demodded? Thought it was primarily due to how you managed SM2 and the response it garnered from the cool kids.

04-07-2015 , 03:46 PM

#1403

ctyri

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

Worse than BRUCE?! Impossible.

Bruce had a lot to offer and it's too bad his own hubris prevents him from posting.

You have nothing to offer and it's too bad your own hubris prevents you from leaving.

04-07-2015 , 03:48 PM

#1404

DudeImBetter

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Originally Posted by ctyri

Bruce had a lot to offer and it's too bad his own hubris prevents him from posting.

You have nothing to offer and it's too bad your own hubris prevents you from leaving.

So you're a Bruce apologist? Thought you were on team #goodriddance.

04-07-2015 , 03:48 PM

#1405

ctyri

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chezlaw

Try considering any reason why after 15+ years of contributing so much to 2+2 for nothing he would want to continue doing so?

Would you?

Not with you stirring the pot every day.

04-07-2015 , 03:50 PM

#1406

DudeImBetter

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chezlaw

Try considering any reason why after 15+ years of contributing so much to 2+2 for nothing he would want to continue doing so?

Would you?

Chez, you're like his #1 defender, right?

Is your position essentially that everything racist he said was done in some kind of thought experiment? Like, devil's advocate style? I'm thinking specifically of the cock roaches bit and the circus music commentary.

04-07-2015 , 03:50 PM

#1407

spanktehbadwookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

Other. PM me and I'll tell you why I think he will probably not come back.

I wouldn't count on public opinion to get anywhere close to an accurate perspective.

04-07-2015 , 03:51 PM

#1408

DudeImBetter

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Other. PM me and I'll tell you why I think he will probably not come back.

I wouldn't count on public opinion to get anywhere close to an accurate perspective.

Why does your opinion need to be kept a secret?

04-07-2015 , 03:51 PM

#1409

rjoefish

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Secret apologies, secret reasons he can't come back, interesting!

04-07-2015 , 03:51 PM

#1410

spanktehbadwookie

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Originally Posted by rjoefish

Quit calling people stupid while using your/you're wrong.

Your stupid and unimaginative.

04-07-2015 , 03:59 PM

#1411

Oroku$aki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rjoefish

Secret apologies, secret reasons he can't come back, interesting!

04-07-2015 , 04:00 PM

#1412

Oroku$aki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Other. PM me and I'll tell you why I think he will probably not come back.

I wouldn't count on public opinion to get anywhere close to an accurate perspective.

PM him Dib, then report back here. Inquiring minds and all that.

04-07-2015 , 04:01 PM

#1413

spanktehbadwookie

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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

Why does your opinion need to be kept a secret?

It's nothing secret. I would share my opinion of that specific matter with you in private if you were curious. Otherwise, I have no interest to speculate or gossip in public about that.

04-07-2015 , 04:03 PM

#1414

spanktehbadwookie

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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

What's your take on why you were demodded? Thought it was primarily due to how you managed SM2 and the response it garnered from the cool kids.

Had nothing to do with all that.
I forgot to step down before taking a more active part in confronting the irrational mob who went after Bruce.

04-07-2015 , 04:04 PM

#1415

rjoefish

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It's not secret, it's just secret. He'd rather people know he's talking about his buddy Bruce behind his back than out in the open. It's classier.

04-07-2015 , 04:11 PM

#1416

DudeImBetter

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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Had nothing to do with all that.
I forgot to step down before taking a more active part in confronting the irrational mob who went after Bruce.

So mods shouldn't confront groups of posters on convo topics? Wookie makes his living confronting people in Alpha just as if he were solely a poster and not a mod. News to me

04-07-2015 , 04:12 PM

#1417

rjoefish

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Forgot to step down actually made me lol.

04-07-2015 , 04:27 PM

#1418

Jbrochu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo_Trollstoy

That explains why meta is always jaywalking.

I thought I had detected a faint odor of thug.

04-07-2015 , 04:30 PM

#1419

spanktehbadwookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

So mods shouldn't confront groups of posters on convo topics? Wookie makes his living confronting people in Alpha just as if he were solely a poster and not a mod. News to me

No not like that. The ATF thread about Bruce had taken a turn towards reconciliation and community, but the mr wookie and his cynical angry mob were not having any of that ACTUALLY HUMAN kind of business. So I questioned the mob's responsibility and got demodded. I assume it was coming out publicly and strongly like that unintentionally towards Mat which made him pull the trigger. I had already decided to probably quit modding and was going to make it final the next day anyway, so I had already lost most of my investment in the role. Kinda boring, no wonder rjoe has to hate and doubt to make it more interesting.

Last edited by spanktehbadwookie; 04-07-2015 at 04:42 PM.

04-07-2015 , 04:33 PM

#1420

rjoefish

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Oh, I don't doubt what actually happened.

04-07-2015 , 04:36 PM

#1421

DrChesspain

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FoldnDark

Well, there's the rub, of course. Conservative politicians shoot themselves in the foot appealing to racists, which opens the door for liberals to try and discredit almost every racist conservative argument by claiming there is some code word or dog whistle, regardless of intent.

FYP

04-07-2015 , 04:41 PM

#1422

spanktehbadwookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rjoefish

It's not secret, it's just secret. He'd rather people know he's talking about his buddy Bruce behind his back than out in the open. It's classier.

I don't know Bruce, I know Bruce's posts. Just like I know your posts and on this topic, your posts are mostly cynical mockery and derision. It's been stale for a while now fyi.

04-07-2015 , 04:43 PM

#1423

spanktehbadwookie

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Originally Posted by rjoefish

Oh, I don't doubt what actually happened.

Man, you are stale.

04-07-2015 , 04:43 PM

#1424

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

Chez, you're like his #1 defender, right?

Not in the sense you mean and I'm not going back over the how it started, there's no point it's all been said many times.

Bruce isn't blameless but nor are the people who are determined to provoke as much trouble as possible. A far better way froward should have been found imo. It was possible as well but I'm not sure others wanted a way forward.

The question remains as to why should Bruce who was so much a part of 2+2 and put so much into it wan't to continue to do so? Seriously, would you?

04-07-2015 , 04:48 PM

#1425

shorn7

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chezlaw

I don't know Bruce nor the whole posts/fiasco as it has has been called. But given my limited experience in the Mike Brown thread I certainly can't blame him for not wanting to subject himself to the mob here as it seems obvious that no matter what kind of apology he made, they either (1) wouldn't buy it, (2) would use it against him to ridicule him further, or (3) would say they buy it and then wait in the weeds looking for any comment that they could potentially link back to the other thread and then pounce.

So for Bruce it seems it would be a Lose/Lose more/Lose later prop at best.

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