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08-19-2013 , 06:43 PM
Please look at the structures, many tournaments - the 50K for one - play way too shallow deep game. Some don't but most do, levels really need to be added late game. With late reg and reentry going so long this makes getting deep take much longer, therefore making the play too shallow and creating a late game shovefest, this shouldn't happen in properly structured deep stack tournaments.
08-20-2013 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondDixie
Please look at the structures, many tournaments - the 50K for one - play way too shallow deep game. Some don't but most do, levels really need to be added late game. With late reg and reentry going so long this makes getting deep take much longer, therefore making the play too shallow and creating a late game shovefest, this shouldn't happen in properly structured deep stack tournaments.
+1

Please look at the structures right away. They are just all really inconsistent across the board. But DD is right-esp middle and late.

With Bovada continuing to grow and Merge revamping their mtt schedule, you guys could really be left in the dust if you don't make these changes, and make them quickly.

I really couldn't care less about increasing guarantees. If you don't have a diverse mix of mtt games that are all appropriately structured, then you will have a really hard time attracting and retaining mtt players.
08-20-2013 , 05:31 PM
Hi

The structures are not good but your schedule is poorer.

I play in European time zone and your offering is not good. Please add better schedule in this time zone if you want to make your network better in this time.

And please show tournaments for 12 hours early not just 6 because sometimes I don't know why is up and coming.
08-20-2013 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheVillageGrinder
+1

Please look at the structures right away. They are just all really inconsistent across the board. But DD is right-esp middle and late.

With Bovada continuing to grow and Merge revamping their mtt schedule, you guys could really be left in the dust if you don't make these changes, and make them quickly.

I really couldn't care less about increasing guarantees. If you don't have a diverse mix of mtt games that are all appropriately structured, then you will have a really hard time attracting and retaining mtt players.
+1000

You have an opportunity right now to step it up and pick up some new players but the window is small imo. I've seen the new Merge schedule and structures and it is really really good (structures need a few tweets but the number of MTTs are great) once this out with the players Bovada has been picking up your window of opportunity will start to close.

I wish I could tell you I thought you could take your time but I don't think you have that luxury. If you want the traffic you're going to have to move fast to get it.
08-20-2013 , 08:19 PM
we need more satelites for the wednesday 15k. Not just on Wednesday but all week or at least mondays and tuesdays
08-20-2013 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisp200
we need more satelites for the wednesday 15k. Not just on Wednesday but all week or at least mondays and tuesdays
+100

More sats for the $44 3K and $55 2.5K too and you should get T$ or tickets not automatically reg'd in the tournament.

Better 50K and 100K sats too.
08-21-2013 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DiamondDixie
+100

More sats for the $44 3K and $55 2.5K too and you should get T$ or tickets not automatically reg'd in the tournament.

Better 50K and 100K sats too.
Yeah I mean this. I don't play those games cause I really don't wanna pay a fairly high buyin with a relatively small prize for 1st place all for the privilege of getting involved in high variance pissing contests (in less than optimally structured mtts) with the same regs everynight.

You need to find a way to attract more players in the low and mid buyin ranges and I think that is accomplished by employing some of the strategies you already have plus listening to some of the feedback and suggestions you are getting here.
08-21-2013 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TheVillageGrinder
Yeah I mean this. I don't play those games cause I really don't wanna pay a fairly high buyin with a relatively small prize for 1st place all for the privilege of getting involved in high variance pissing contests (in less than optimally structured mtts) with the same regs everynight.

You need to find a way to attract more players in the low and mid buyin ranges and I think that is accomplished by employing some of the strategies you already have plus listening to some of the feedback and suggestions you are getting here.
It would be nice if there were like $30-$50 satis for the wednesday 15k and the sunday major. 1/4 get a seat or 1/5 get a seat.
08-21-2013 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Japan
Hi

The structures are not good but your schedule is poorer.

I play in European time zone and your offering is not good. Please add better schedule in this time zone if you want to make your network better in this time.

And please show tournaments for 12 hours early not just 6 because sometimes I don't know why is up and coming.
Hi,

The structures are changing. You have to understand that i am changing the schedule and to change all the structures for every tourney right now is just not going to happen. However for the big buy ins i am going to. With regards to adding a better schedule for the European time zone it is very hard to offer good gtds right now as we dont have enough players from Europe to reach the gtds.

Showing every gtd tournie 12 hours in advance is also something i have stated previously is going to happen.
08-21-2013 , 12:29 PM
IMO we have some pretty good sats for the 15k tonight. I will look to create a few more sats for the $40's and $50 tournies.

Our next software update is coming soon and the tournament tickets should be coming. This will be a big game changer with regards to sats and will help all the players. There is also another surprise that will be coming that will give everyone the best chance to qualify for the tournaments of your choice. I dont want to say anymore on this but you heard it here first ;-). We do listen... I do listen. Even if i dont respond to every individual message i check the forum many times in a day and read every post.

I am here for you guys :-)
08-21-2013 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
IMO we have some pretty good sats for the 15k tonight. I will look to create a few more sats for the $40's and $50 tournies.

Our next software update is coming soon and the tournament tickets should be coming. This will be a big game changer with regards to sats and will help all the players. There is also another surprise that will be coming that will give everyone the best chance to qualify for the tournaments of your choice. I dont want to say anymore on this but you heard it here first ;-). We do listen... I do listen. Even if i dont respond to every individual message i check the forum many times in a day and read every post.

I am here for you guys :-)
I don't want tickets. Right now, if your regged for a tourny and you win a seat into it, you are rewarded with tournament dollars. I don't want this change. Tournament tickets would suck!!!

Tournament leader board?
08-21-2013 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisp200
I don't want tickets. Right now, if your regged for a tourny and you win a seat into it, you are rewarded with tournament dollars. I don't want this change. Tournament tickets would suck!!!

Tournament leader board?
+1000 I want tournament dollars to use as I please, I don't want to be shot into a tournament as a late reg where I have 10bb upon starting. If I win a sat please just give me the T$ and let me reg where I want to.

Chrisp, IMO sites prefer to issue tournament tickets so people have to play said tournament to increase the field size. Remember on Stars and FTP we could win all the T$ from Sunday Million sats yet never play the Sunday Million but use those $ for whatever tournament(s) we wanted? While as a player I highly prefer T$ I can understand why sites might prefer tournament tickets.
08-21-2013 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Hi,

The structures are changing. You have to understand that i am changing the schedule and to change all the structures for every tourney right now is just not going to happen. However for the big buy ins i am going to.
I don't get it. If you know the structures need improvement across the board, why would you only change the higher stakes?
08-22-2013 , 12:08 AM
If you could mimic bovada's daily tournaments, it would be really good.
08-22-2013 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TheVillageGrinder
I don't get it. If you know the structures need improvement across the board, why would you only change the higher stakes?


+1

I don't mind that there are a ton of fast tournaments, that's fine. I just want the structures to be better and I want a few more slower touranments, improvements to satellites and a couple other things. Just trying to post anything that's constructive, not a bunch of stuff that'd just benefit me and my preferences.

Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the work that the new TD is doing, if it wasn't for him seeming like he is actively trying to improve the schedule I wouldn't have deposited at all... so I'm optimistic.

As of now, there's a lot of room for improvement in the software, but I'm glad to see TD's last couple of posts.
08-22-2013 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisp200
I don't want tickets. Right now, if your regged for a tourny and you win a seat into it, you are rewarded with tournament dollars. I don't want this change. Tournament tickets would suck!!!

Tournament leader board?
Yeah, I get what you're saying, I'd much, much rather that satellites just pay out Tournament Dollars, that way I can play any satellite even if I'm not gonna be able to play that specific event.
08-22-2013 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TheVillageGrinder
I don't get it. If you know the structures need improvement across the board, why would you only change the higher stakes?
Because higher stakes = higher rake I would think.
08-22-2013 , 05:15 AM
Well he is probably one guy, maybe an assistant also, and scheduling changes into the system probably take time. Plus its not something you would want to rush and create more problems to be fixed.

Cleaning up the levels in the high rollers sounds like a priority at least.
08-22-2013 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Boney526
+1

I don't mind that there are a ton of fast tournaments, that's fine. I just want the structures to be better and I want a few more slower touranments, improvements to satellites and a couple other things. Just trying to post anything that's constructive, not a bunch of stuff that'd just benefit me and my preferences.

Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the work that the new TD is doing, if it wasn't for him seeming like he is actively trying to improve the schedule I wouldn't have deposited at all... so I'm optimistic.

As of now, there's a lot of room for improvement in the software, but I'm glad to see TD's last couple of posts.

The main reason for me changing the higher stakes right now is because i am changing quite a few of the mids and micros and to change the structures now and then to change them again doesnt make much sense. It is quite alot of work and seems pointless as i will be making changes soon!
08-22-2013 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
The main reason for me changing the higher stakes right now is because i am changing quite a few of the mids and micros and to change the structures now and then to change them again doesnt make much sense. It is quite alot of work and seems pointless as i will be making changes soon!
Fair enough, I guess it's too much to expect everything to happen very quickly.

Anyway, as long as you know that the structures need to be changed for most of the tournaments, go ahead and try it out on the bigger tournaments first. But IMO, turbos that get around 50ish people should last longer than 2 hours, whereas now they usually last a little less than that. Now that I looked it at more closely, I spotted a few "missing" levels. I
m not sure if you changed the higher buy in ones and can't check right now, but once you do I'll take a look to see if I like the new structure.

I'm sure you've noticed this, but there needs to be a level between 25-50 and 50-100. It may be easiest to go 10-20,20-40,30-60,40-80,50-100.

Last edited by Boney526; 08-22-2013 at 02:13 PM.
08-22-2013 , 08:45 PM
Now that you've posted the new structure you're going to implement (which looks good to me, btw!) please focus on making the payout structures more top heavy after implementing the blind level changes.

Pretty much no tournament should be paying out 20% of the field, except for STT SNGs and some satellites. 10-15% maximum IMO, maybe certain micro rebuy tournaments could be 20% but that's it.

Honestly I think if you do that, and play around with the schedule until you find the best way the tournaments on WPN are going to be a lot, lot better. Pretty much every other thing I want are software features which WPN seems to be rolling out (a little slower than I'd like, but oh well.)
08-22-2013 , 08:47 PM
Please do more 50k sats. A week or so ago I played a $5r to the 100k but I don't even see it now. It's way better than the $22 or those goofy .50 cent sats to that. Please add the 5r sat to both/either the 50k and 100k a couple of times each evening.
08-22-2013 , 11:23 PM
how about some micro satellites to the nightly $10k gtd deep stack, and $40 $3k gtd?

and please, at the very least, give us a ticket that can be used to play in that tourney at any given time. if not tourn dollars. dixie has mentioned this several times, but i dont want to satellite into an mtt when its super deep in the late reg period only to be screwed with regards to big blinds left. you could put an expiration date on the tourn tickets, but it has to change, anything but the current format would be an improvement imo.

and the satellite lobby should identify the tournament youre trying to win your way into. i cant even play sat's bc of that. im too afraid what was mentioned above will happen to me.
08-23-2013 , 11:33 AM
aGreed. If you wanna have some satellites that are exclusive to a specific mtt that's fine. But haivng the option to play satties for T$ would almost certainly create more interest and participation in satties on the network.
08-24-2013 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pfc_ivan12323232
I have been playing on site for about 15 days, and amongst a few things i noticed these 3 piss me off the most:

- Time bank doesn't activate itself automatically when you run out of time. On top of that when you get sat out, a **** window appears saying "You have been timed out for taking too long to act" and you have to click a pointless "OK" and then click "Sit In" 8 times because it never works if you click it once. And after all this BS, the table automatically checks "Wait for BB" so you lose a full round of cards for no reason... Pathetic
- When its your turn to act there is a light blue circle flashing that only a person with 20/20 vision can notice on a 70" monitor. Change it to bright red or something.

Thats all.
Winning_TD, is this ever going to change?

Last edited by pfc_ivan12323232; 08-24-2013 at 05:06 PM.

      
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