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03-27-2013 , 08:33 AM

#20226

Wolfram

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Originally Posted by furyshade

Alright, I've been playing a bit and figuring out the mechanics, wondering if I'm missing something on actually finishing off other champs. I'm playing Ryze, who gets solid burst damage it seems, but when I'm in a lane against a tankier champ who is at full health I get into this position where I get them to like 10-20% health and then I can't chase them down to finish. Am I making a tactical mistake or should I just not try to do burst damage unless I know they are at low enough health to kill them?

I posted this earlier in the thread

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Originally Posted by Wolfram

There are 3 ways to kill someone 1v1 with Ryze.

1. Harass them down to low enough that one combo+ignite will kill them (usually initiated by a flash+rune prison).
2. Bait someone to all-in vs you and hope they don't back out. This depends on your opponent being bad.
3. Learn how to orb-walk.

Orb walking means continuously moving while casting skills and/or autoattacking. In ryze's case the key thing is to keep spamming spells while chasing so that the cooldown on rune prison lowers (via his passive) and you manage to bind them again. If you full combo somone and then rune prison them again and keep spamming they will die unless you are underfarmed.

Also, what italianFx said. Driving someone out of lane is a victory in itself.

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03-27-2013 , 08:35 AM

#20227

BitchiBee

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getting solo kills only happens if you are better than other person or the someone miss plays, shouldn't worry about it so much. If you can solo kill great, just try to never die 1vs1 that is really bad

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03-27-2013 , 08:49 AM

#20228

BitchiBee

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literally just sat in que for 30 minutes, same guy queing and declining over and over 20+ times

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03-27-2013 , 09:28 AM

#20229

Sugar Nut

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Originally Posted by BitchiBee

literally just sat in que for 30 minutes, same guy queing and declining over and over 20+ times

Some people have a weird idea of what fun is...

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03-27-2013 , 09:28 AM

#20230

imolin

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,191

i was 10 percent hp with 5 items on ori and sona wouldnt let me ball her to walk in for ult against 5 with 25% trying to kill baron

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03-27-2013 , 09:35 AM

#20231

BitchiBee

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I charge 50/hour for ori lessons, no guarentees on someone like you improving on her though

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03-27-2013 , 09:39 AM

#20232

imolin

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i dont want to pay to get worse sunny is coaching me for 150 an hour, super value considering she can beat toyz 1v1 no problem

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03-27-2013 , 09:48 AM

#20233

Jackitos

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 17,561

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Originally Posted by imolin

i was 10 percent hp with 5 items on ori and sona wouldnt let me ball her to walk in for ult against 5 with 25% trying to kill baron

Baron was dead

But it's k.

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03-27-2013 , 09:52 AM

#20234

imolin

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dude no i already told you you cant defend that play because nothing about it was the right decision stop trying to make excuses

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03-27-2013 , 09:54 AM

#20235

BitchiBee

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its really hard to get worse on orianna with the way you play her

jackitos could probably give you some lessons

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03-27-2013 , 09:56 AM

#20236

imolin

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if i want lessons on how to ask people "WHAT DID YOU WANT ME TO DO" after they tell me exactly what i want them to do then sure

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03-27-2013 , 09:57 AM

#20237

imolin

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omg im so tilted just thinking about it. it was so damn bad dude

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03-27-2013 , 10:33 AM

#20238

Jackitos

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 17,561

It wasn't even a damn issue. Stop being a drama queen. I just figured you were baiting me into dying like you did with Ray earlier. It's not hard to see you doing it. So bad omg omg so bad. I'm a silver player, what do you expect? It was a normal game in our smurfs, lol.

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03-27-2013 , 11:17 AM

#20239

imolin

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this is why i get so tilted at you and only you jackitos. for some reason its impossible for you to just admit you made a godawful play, there is just always an excuse

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03-27-2013 , 11:22 AM

#20240

imolin

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also i dont see what silver elo has to do with listening to calls

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03-27-2013 , 11:27 AM

#20241

Nonfiction

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can you guys just hate **** each other and get it over with

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03-27-2013 , 11:38 AM

#20242

imolin

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ok ok ill drop sorry for tarding thread up

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03-27-2013 , 11:55 AM

#20243

ItalianFX

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Raffy, go to your room and listen to some kpop.

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03-27-2013 , 12:01 PM

#20244

imolin

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done and done
spoiler for large gif

Spoiler:

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03-27-2013 , 12:05 PM

#20245

Jackitos

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I don't see how that can be pleasurable.

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03-27-2013 , 12:37 PM

#20246

Sugar Nut

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What is it with these hordes of "I don't need smite" junglers at lol-elo?

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03-27-2013 , 12:39 PM

#20247

Jackitos

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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut

What is it with these hordes of "I don't need smite" junglers at lol-elo?

Because you don't! Not technically.

People don't know any better, go figure.

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03-27-2013 , 12:45 PM

#20248

Nonfiction

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Smite is a spell for NOOBLORDS. It does no damage how can you kill someone with no damage?

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03-27-2013 , 12:54 PM

#20249

Karak

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Originally Posted by imolin

if i want lessons on how to ask people "WHAT DID YOU WANT ME TO DO" after they tell me exactly what i want them to do then sure

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Originally Posted by imolin

omg im so tilted just thinking about it. it was so damn bad dude

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Originally Posted by imolin

this is why i get so tilted at you and only you jackitos. for some reason its impossible for you to just admit you made a godawful play, there is just always an excuse

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Originally Posted by imolin

also i dont see what silver elo has to do with listening to calls

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