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02-13-2012 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
its the same as in a restaurant, if u leave and not pay, the cashier responsible for your table pays the bill not the owner which kinda sucks cause he is always underpaid for this but really, in this situation i don't know if i could give it back or not if its a sizeable amount for me to be honest.
I don't assume this is the case always. It "used" to be this way a lot in a lot of professions in the US, but not as much anymore. When I worked as a grocery cashier, I somehow let a guy off with not paying for $120 worth of groceries in my 2nd week on the job, and to this day, I have still have no clue wtf happened to my drawer to be off $120. I got written up for it, not fired, and did not have to pay for it. Company policy generally was to suspend you after a few offenses that were > $10, then fire you after a couple more.
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02-13-2012 , 11:24 AM
commenting from the ceegee thread but comment is more appropriate here.

draw forums are sooooo polite...its like ladies with tea
in nlhe tourney forums ppl get berated/verbally abused in every other thread
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02-13-2012 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
commenting from the ceegee thread but comment is more appropriate here.

draw forums are sooooo polite...its like ladies with tea
in nlhe tourney forums ppl get berated/verbally abused in every other thread
I, for one, like to post in forums where people aren't douchebags, and I'm glad that this forum is generally this way. Berating others doesn't improve the health of forums, especially those that have smaller traffic, imo. All the top posters in this section are masters of the game and are intelligent enough to respect other masters. If all this makes me lose my penis and want to drink tea on this forum, so be it (as long as I get my penis back when I logoff).

If players have contradictory points, I think it's in everyone's best interest to better explain why you think you're right instead of just blindly saying: "I'm right; you're wrong, dumbass." The fact it happens in the NL forums is somewhat due to the larger scope of the area and people may not want to take more time to respond to posts. They are also more likely to have 1 or 2 beraters over a sample of 1000 posters vs. 50. Also, maybe there is something about this game that generally attracts more "civilized" players? People occasionally flock to this game after being burned out with NL hold'em, which now is more flooded with brash 18-25 year olds.
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02-13-2012 , 07:07 PM
yea io agree with everything you said ive played with nl posters here regs, which are like total bastards tbh and when i play with someone draw games they are like "gg, see you next time" etc

and of course i was being a little sarcastic about the ladies lol

Last edited by snowboard789; 02-13-2012 at 07:15 PM.
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02-14-2012 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
yea io agree with everything you said ive played with nl posters here regs, which are like total bastards tbh and when i play with someone draw games they are like "gg, see you next time" etc

and of course i was being a little sarcastic about the ladies lol
You can be a total douchebag in NLHE because the player pool is enormous. Draw games, not so much. So better be as nice as you can be to make them come back.
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02-14-2012 , 02:40 PM
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Was more referring to the 'oh I thought this was 5 card draw' and 'So pairs aren't good?'.
Well, that was meant as advertisement towards the players at the table that didnt know me! I obv knew you knew what was going on, and wanted to collect some extra ad-value, after I had shown the cards

You seem to be killing it btw, GJ!
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02-14-2012 , 06:40 PM
IS there any Badugi training video content other than the single video on DC by deathdonkey?
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02-14-2012 , 07:29 PM
not sure but I think vincent (soepgroente) possibly made a vid in his luck of the draw series?
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02-14-2012 , 07:51 PM
exactly
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02-14-2012 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bjornar
You can be a total douchebag in NLHE because the player pool is enormous. Draw games, not so much. So better be as nice as you can be to make them come back.
Totally agree with this. Back in the day when I was allowed to play lowball (sad panda face), players would occasionally sit down and begin asking rules. The table / I would generally help them out. I don't know how many turned into regs or stayed longer than they otherwise would've but it can't hurt.
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02-15-2012 , 08:49 AM
usually i dont bother with these things...but take a look..villain had never lead this way and both villains are from russia.
after the hand i mentined that this looked like collusion and villain that lead left the table.
hmmmm
am i paranoid? ppl donk all kinds of stuff but maybe im racist with russians?

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Pre Draw: (1.5 SB) Hero is UTG with 9 9 7 3 2
Hero raises, CO 3-bets, BTN folds, SB calls, BB folds, Hero calls

First Draw: (10 SB) (3 players)
SB draws 2, Hero draws 2, CO draws 1
Hand: J 8 7 3 2
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero calls

Second Draw: (6.5 BB) (3 players)
SB draws 2, Hero draws 1, CO draws 1
Hand: 8 7 3 3 2
SB bets, Hero folds, CO raises, SB folds
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02-15-2012 , 09:45 AM
Looks like a pat that was too weak to check-raise and too... fail, to check-call against two 1-card draws drawing twice.

Suspicious enough to ask Stars to check it, but no point mentioning it at the table imo.
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02-15-2012 , 12:53 PM
I'd report it to Stars for sure
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02-15-2012 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
usually i dont bother with these things...but take a look..villain had never lead this way and both villains are from russia.
after the hand i mentined that this looked like collusion and villain that lead left the table.
hmmmm
am i paranoid? ppl donk all kinds of stuff but maybe im racist with russians?

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Pre Draw: (1.5 SB) Hero is UTG with 9 9 7 3 2
Hero raises, CO 3-bets, BTN folds, SB calls, BB folds, Hero calls

First Draw: (10 SB) (3 players)
SB draws 2, Hero draws 2, CO draws 1
Hand: J 8 7 3 2
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero calls

Second Draw: (6.5 BB) (3 players)
SB draws 2, Hero draws 1, CO draws 1
Hand: 8 7 3 3 2
SB bets, Hero folds, CO raises, SB folds
I don't see it.

SB calls after first draw, draws two for second draw, comes out betting, and then folds after Hero folds and CO (who drew one for second draw) raises.

Looks to me like maybe SB tried a bluff but then thought better of it when CO raised.

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villain had never lead this way and both villains are from russia.
after the hand i mentined that this looked like collusion and villain that lead left the table.
I don't think any of that proves anything or even means anything.

I'm someone who doesn't trust on-line poker, who believes there's lots of collusion and cheating involved in on-line poker... but I don't see anything here.

On the other hand, go ahead and report it if you're suspicious. (Don't let me stop you).

Buzz
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02-15-2012 , 05:09 PM
on other news, i think im running all of the merge td games (trying to learn hu with bad randoms) but omg
1) rake is huge
2) wtf is that with no cap hu?? i realized it while playing lol i saw a 5th bet coming
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02-15-2012 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzz
I don't see it.

SB calls after first draw, draws two for second draw, comes out betting, and then folds after Hero folds and CO (who drew one for second draw) raises.
People don't donk in this spot. Donking the turn when behind on the flop is generally a terrible move and even most clueless players understand the "bet when ahead, check when behind" reasoning.

Also agree with reporting being the best option. Asking/telling at the table is a spew, eventhough I've done it myself when frustrated over weird plays in multiway spots.
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02-15-2012 , 05:15 PM
i reported it because
1) villains where from the same country (meh)
2) many ppl donk here and then either call/break or call/pat or they do it with nut draws this is way too convinient with a player trapped between them

on the other hand then most colluding way is to check and i check and they bet/raise so im sure out of the equation
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02-15-2012 , 07:07 PM
^^ or they can bet, you call, raise, 3bet, you fold he folds
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02-15-2012 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789

on the other hand then most colluding way is to check and i check and they bet/raise so im sure out of the equation
Exactly. If he backed into 35678 here what does he do? Betting gets value if both of you miss and its a clear fold if raised. It's probably a better line here than c/c patting.
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02-15-2012 , 07:43 PM
noone will or should b/f 87653 here, and thats an easy and happy c/r. a hand he isnt comfortable with is like 98753.
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02-15-2012 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
I'd report it to Stars for sure
That's cruel Btw if they were colluding CO would fold to avoid paying rake on SB's bet, unless i'm missing something.
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02-15-2012 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeRad89
Obv cal is levels above me but does this line really achieve anything?
Looks like a misclick to me?
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02-15-2012 , 08:13 PM
anyway stars is amazing, they filed a report and responded that these players have too few hands together etc. i was just being paranoid first time it happened (and i wasn't loosing/tilting lol) but im bit uncomfortable in tables full of 4 russians or 2 china 1 taiwan 1 macao and such, should be normal tho. case closed.
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02-15-2012 , 08:41 PM
Good to see you back on other poker forum Jean.
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02-15-2012 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
2) wtf is that with no cap hu?? i realized it while playing lol i saw a 5th bet coming
is this how it is for hu fl 5cd and all other limit games at merge? what other sites are like this?
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