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12-31-2011 , 07:58 PM
Mis-click equity FTW
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01-01-2012 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Vempele

Expert value bet with ace high. If their ranges were symmetric, he should be betting top ~93% and bottom ~2% according to http://www.math.ucla.edu/~tom/papers/poker2.pdf so even with asymmetric ranges it must be the right decision AINEC.
I know you were meaning this to be a funny bit of analysis, but **** Jesus, seriously. My apologies to anyone who has greater than my balance ($100, man I run good) on that crooked site.
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01-01-2012 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Vempele
oogee $99840, RaiseOnce $0.

Poker Stars $1000/$2000 Limit 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Pre Draw: (1.5 SB)
oogee raises, RaiseOnce calls

First Draw: (4 SB) (2 players)
RaiseOnce draws 2, oogee draws 3
RaiseOnce bets, oogee calls

Second Draw: (3 BB) (2 players)
RaiseOnce draws 1, oogee draws 2
RaiseOnce bets, oogee calls

Third Draw: (5 BB) (2 players)
RaiseOnce draws 1, oogee draws 1
RaiseOnce bets 1/40th of the pot all in, oogee calls

Final Pot: 5.25 BB
RaiseOnce shows A 7 6 5 2 (Lo: A,7,6,5,2)
oogee shows 8 7 6 3 2 (Lo: 8,7,6,3,2)
oogee wins 5.249 BB
(Rake: $2.00)

Expert value bet with ace high. If their ranges were symmetric, he should be betting top ~93% and bottom ~2% according to http://www.math.ucla.edu/~tom/papers/poker2.pdf so even with asymmetric ranges it must be the right decision AINEC.
Yes, correct river bet; another source is MOP by Chen and Ankenman ( see grey box on p.202; x1 is the legitimate betting frequency of the first player and alpha is the ratio of 1/(P+1) where P = size of pot in terms of bets ). Using the notation from MOP, the solution for x1 is actually quite simple: x1= P2/[(P+1)(P+2)] so here P=40 so x1 = 1600/(41 x 42 ) ~ 0.929152149. There should be (1/41) as many bluffs to make the oogee indifferent with a "bluff catcher", so the bluffing frequency is 1600/( 412 x 42 ) ~ 0.022662247528.
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01-05-2012 , 09:41 PM
Sick hand, wanna know cals thoughts

PokerStars Game #73361226306: Single Draw 2-7 Lowball No Limit ($10/$20 USD) - 2012/01/06 2:38:18 CET [2012/01/05 20:38:18 ET]
Table 'Ristenpart VIII' 7-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Wimet_ ($1397 in chips)
Seat 7: cal42688 ($5065 in chips)
Wimet_: posts small blind $10
cal42688: posts big blind $20
*** DEALING HANDS ***
cal42688 said, "thats what i hear"
Wimet_: raises $40 to $60
cal42688: raises $120 to $180
Wimet_: calls $120
cal42688: discards 1 card
Wimet_: discards 1 card
cal42688: bets $120
Wimet_: raises $240 to $360
cal42688: calls $240
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Wimet_: shows [Jh 5d 9s 9c 6c] (Lo: a pair of Nines)
cal42688: shows [5s 4s 3s 9d 4d] (Lo: a pair of Fours)
cal42688 collected $1079.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1080 | Rake $0.50
Seat 1: Wimet_ (button) (small blind) showed [Jh 5d 9s 9c 6c] and lost with Lo: a pair of Nines
Seat 7: cal42688 (big blind) showed [5s 4s 3s 9d 4d] and won ($1079.50) with Lo: a pair of Fours
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01-06-2012 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Doopie
Sick hand, wanna know cals thoughts
Trying to buy a hand with garbage and then catching a bluff with worse garbage? Lots of players when they bluff will be bluffing hands higher than 4s. Most likely it's "I had a feeling call." I probably don't make this call without a big read or "very strong feeling", but I have never played $10/$20 27SD either. It's an impressive call by cal, but even with its impressiveness, but he may lose more on average than the pot odds he is given, imo. It depends on how much wimet_ bluff raises obv.
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01-06-2012 , 05:07 AM
Thoughts: "Street poker, Batman."
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01-06-2012 , 08:51 PM
Most likely feels wimet has an unbalanced, polarized range or some combination of that + timing tell/situational psychological read.
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01-07-2012 , 08:49 AM
What can you do but laugh? (and wonder WTF is villain betting for...)


Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Limit 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Pre Draw: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN/SB with Q J 8 3 2
Hero raises, BB calls

First Draw: (4 SB) (2 players)
BB draws 3, Hero draws 2
Hand: K 8 5 3 2
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls

Second Draw: (3 BB) (2 players)
BB draws 2, Hero draws 1
Hand: Q 8 5 3 2
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls

Third Draw: (5 BB) (2 players)
BB draws 1, Hero draws 1
Hand: 8 5 3 2 2
BB bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: 7 BB
Hero mucks 8 5 3 2 2
BB shows 5 4 3 2 2 (Lo: a pair of Deuces)
BB wins 6.7 BB
(Rake: $0.30)
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01-07-2012 , 11:16 AM
Valuebet IMO. He has the nut pair.
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01-08-2012 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wimet
Hehe you are really mixing me with someone else, as i have never bought lessons from anyone and i started learning the game like 2-3 months before BF :P
Pokerhands disagrees. Now maybe you didn't take the game seriously until 2011, but im ok with the $138 win while you played for fun

Example:

beware the feral cow packs. they hunger.
PokerStars Game #48198533639: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2010/08/15 15:36:34 ET
PokerStars Limit Triple Draw $3/$6 - 2 players

BB Hero: $150.50
Button Wimet_: $127.00

Dealing Hands: ($4.00) (2 players)
Wimet_ raises to $6, Hero folds
Hero said, "any given session tho this game is just luck really"
Wimet_ collected $6

(Rake: $0)
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01-08-2012 , 08:34 AM
whats the standard bb for FL 2-7 ringgames and what's the standard for HU??

Let's say a moron is playing 1/2, is it the same standard that does count then?
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01-08-2012 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tringlomane
Pokerhands disagrees. Now maybe you didn't take the game seriously until 2011, but im ok with the $138 win while you played for fun

Example:

beware the feral cow packs. they hunger.
PokerStars Game #48198533639: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2010/08/15 15:36:34 ET
PokerStars Limit Triple Draw $3/$6 - 2 players

BB Hero: $150.50
Button Wimet_: $127.00

Dealing Hands: ($4.00) (2 players)
Wimet_ raises to $6, Hero folds
Hero said, "any given session tho this game is just luck really"
Wimet_ collected $6

(Rake: $0)
I think it was more like a random session on a game i didnt know at all and didnt played it again until Feb or march 2011
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01-08-2012 , 06:50 PM
To all my Merge Freinds/regs. There's a pretty crazy $5 $10 PL 2-7 TD game going right now.

One guys got 300 bb's, another close to 1000.

This is pretty big time for Merge
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01-08-2012 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Randomness28
Doyle, how have the 8-game games been since black friday?
Can't u americanisers rail on pokerstars?

edit: Don't play any 8g cg =(

Last edited by doylebrunson1337; 01-08-2012 at 08:16 PM.
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01-08-2012 , 08:52 PM
NVM, thought you were somebody else(doylebrunzon).
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01-08-2012 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Faluzure
It was basic cooler protection since that's about the only time 100bbs was going in (at least in the micro games). In the rare cases someone who was terrible bought in fullstacked I'd also buy in for 100bb.
If they are that worried about getting coolered why dont they go play a $100 HU SNG instead of sitting at 1/2 with $80. If they were any good they would be comfortable playing with 100bbs. Was playing tehopo today and he was just shoving over opens, if I wanted that sh*t I would be playing sngs still.
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01-08-2012 , 11:14 PM
Well, there are obviously many reasons why they wouldn't. Maybe they don't want to adapt stategy to vary with increasing blinds. Maybe they get more action in cash games than sngs or like being able to select opponents more easily. Or like 40bb or 60bb or 100bb or 250bb nlhe players, they've developed a strategy suitable for X bbs and want to make it as advantageous to them as possible. Yeah, someone good will probably be able to play all those BIs decently, but specialists are going to have the advantage and they are effectively forcing you to play their game. But for the games I was playing in, it was mostly to reduce the variance/effect of coolers.
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01-09-2012 , 02:10 AM
There are reasons why it would be +EV even vs a fish to not buy-in full. Maybe it causes the fish to play worse if you're half stacked, causing edge to become higher. This may not be true but the fact that player skill isn't necessarily static is certainly worth consdering.
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01-09-2012 , 05:03 PM
Has anyone played a lot with/Have any opinions on goodzhouzou? Plays a lot of SD and TD 2-7, has a pic of a Chinese girl and is supernova if that helps jogging anyone's memories
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01-09-2012 , 08:11 PM
not that good at TD.
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01-09-2012 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Journeyman_1
not that good at TD.
I need a +1 stamp for whatever you say.

...

Last edited by tringlomane; 01-09-2012 at 09:28 PM. Reason: Details upset people.
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01-09-2012 , 09:14 PM
Not cool sharing reads on players in here imo.
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01-09-2012 , 09:19 PM
yeh was just gonna say that. Kinda lame.
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01-09-2012 , 09:27 PM
Maybe so, but I'm not giving away anything significant to any other reg about this person because regs should already know him/her to this level of description. It doesn't take too long to figure these generalities out. For example, you think I suck, EvilTeddy, and I do suck compared to you...lol
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01-10-2012 , 12:01 AM
Still havent got answers to my questions.

1. How many bb is good brm for 6max 2-7TD?
2. how many bb for shorthanded (3-4)?
3. How big a roll for 0.5/1 8game 6max?
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