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07-09-2013 , 09:01 AM
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07-09-2013 , 10:35 AM
I figured but it still would not add anyone....
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07-09-2013 , 10:45 AM
Which app are u using? I'm RichGambool on the mws one.
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07-09-2013 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RichGangi
Which app are u using? I'm RichGambool on the mws one.
I'm Precept24 on the same mws app. It's kinda fun playing against knowledgeable players.
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07-09-2013 , 02:30 PM
Yeah, the cpu is way too weak.
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07-09-2013 , 02:41 PM
I'm buzz2424 on the mws app. Been playing a bunch with Rich and Precept.
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07-09-2013 , 09:45 PM
This is probably a stupid question, but what is your play here? Take the guarantee 2-point royal and no foul, or is it ever ok to gambüül? Hearts still very live (plus both ends of SF), plus other non-fouling outs.



Newbie to game, have read some strat (1st few pages of this thread and few other very basic gameplay theorem). Right now mostly in the self discovery phase and trying to avoid reading too much to avoid early play style biases while figuring out my approach, so sorry if something like this has been covered ad nauseum.
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07-09-2013 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by King Fish
This is probably a stupid question, but what is your play here? Take the guarantee 2-point royal and no foul, or is it ever ok to gambüül? Hearts still very live (plus both ends of SF), plus other non-fouling outs.



Newbie to game, have read some strat (1st few pages of this thread and few other very basic gameplay theorem). Right now mostly in the self discovery phase and trying to avoid reading too much to avoid early play style biases while figuring out my approach, so sorry if something like this has been covered ad nauseum.
I'd put the 10 in back and hope for the best. You're less likely to boat up if you put it in the middle than foul.
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07-09-2013 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Precept2
I'd put the 10 in back and hope for the best. You're less likely to boat up if you put it in the middle than foul.
I'm on the left . (Took me a minute to figure out that response...)
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07-10-2013 , 02:04 AM
1 card to come you're winning on top and can outdraw in the middle to get a scoop+2

Make the straight
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07-10-2013 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LVpokerPRO
1 card to come you're winning on top and can outdraw in the middle to get a scoop+2

Make the straight
Now that I know which side you are...

+1

I did poorly on the Reading Comprehension section of the SATs.
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07-10-2013 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by buzz12586
I'm buzz2424 on the mws app. Been playing a bunch with Rich and Precept.
i'm wu36 on this if anyone wants a game
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07-10-2013 , 02:16 PM
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i'm wu36 on this if anyone wants a game
8 years and this is your first post? I'm honored.
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07-11-2013 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by buzz12586
8 years and this is your first post? I'm honored.
lost my old name when all the passwords got reset. to the few people im playing with i wont be able to continue til i get a new phone this one keeps crashing on me
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07-11-2013 , 06:38 PM
Sorry if this has been answered before. What is the best App to use for the iPhone? There are a few on the App store, and they each cost about 5 bucks.
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07-11-2013 , 06:40 PM
How you setting q10665

5
66
Q10

No fantasyland
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07-11-2013 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Super99
How you setting q10665

5
66
Q10

No fantasyland
Even without fantasyland I'd aim for the royalties of high pairs up top. Seeing as you haven't mentioned suits I'm assuming its rainbow and also that you have position. I'd set it like this:

Q
5
66T

I'd then place the next live card in the middle and aim for queens up top and hitting two pair in middle (if can't make KK+) and a higher two pair or better in the back. Should you scoop that's 13 points. Quite aggressive but that how I'd play it.

OOP or if some of those aren't fully live I'd play:

X
5T
Q66

and just keep it legal.
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07-11-2013 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubey
Sorry if this has been answered before. What is the best App to use for the iPhone? There are a few on the App store, and they each cost about 5 bucks.
You'll want the app by Pocket Cowboys. The free version just has pass and play (or vs computer). The paid app is the way forward with Internet play and addons for fantasyland, criss cross and such.
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07-11-2013 , 11:40 PM
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What gives you these numbers ofc, is it a bot of yours playing against itself?
Yes, where do you get the "PT" stats from?
Thanks
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07-12-2013 , 01:24 AM
Someone good hit me up for a game on the app. My name is trizip in Game Center. I haven't played someone yet that has consistently beat me. Give me a challenge!
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07-12-2013 , 03:48 AM
just saw some crazy hand - OFC pineapple

HU one guy had
QQQ
2345_
T987_

last 3 cards and got a 6 and A. real money. A and 6 live. do you think this is normal gambool in pineapple variant or could this be a cheat?
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07-12-2013 , 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by chrosmos
just saw some crazy hand - OFC pineapple

HU one guy had
QQQ
2345_
T987_

last 3 cards and got a 6 and A. real money. A and 6 live. do you think this is normal gambool in pineapple variant or could this be a cheat?
I had a hand a month ago $5 a point 4 handed where I was dealt a K high flush...next 4 cards were clubs, then drew K put it on top, next card made flush in middle then last two cards were K K
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07-12-2013 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by chrosmos
just saw some crazy hand - OFC pineapple

HU one guy had
QQQ
2345_
T987_

last 3 cards and got a 6 and A. real money. A and 6 live. do you think this is normal gambool in pineapple variant or could this be a cheat?
Certainly a rare gambool but the question is how did he to that street in the first place? He could have easily been dealt something like Q9843 no realistic flush draw, and the 98 is 100% live. Puts 98 in back, 43 in middle, Q up top. Next three cards are 2TK, and the king is dead, so play is 987, 432, discard K.

From there you are committed to straight/straight as your royalty, and you're going to try to see it through if possible. So if the next street is something like 55Q, and the back straight draw is still live, then next street is something like TQx, at that point you've already committed to straight/straight...you have QQ/2345/T987 + a card. Unless it complets a straight, its going up top.

Obviously that's a very specific runout, but it can happen. It's not common, but its not a lollivedonk thing. Now if he was dealt QQQT7 and put QQQ up top, well then I don't know.
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07-12-2013 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sev
Even without fantasyland I'd aim for the royalties of high pairs up top. Seeing as you haven't mentioned suits I'm assuming its rainbow and also that you have position. I'd set it like this:

Q
5
66T

I'd then place the next live card in the middle and aim for queens up top and hitting two pair in middle (if can't make KK+) and a higher two pair or better in the back. Should you scoop that's 13 points. Quite aggressive but that how I'd play it.

OOP or if some of those aren't fully live I'd play:

X
5T
Q66

and just keep it legal.
Without FL, the 9-J royalty is a far better one to shoot for because its almost the same number of points for nowhere near the risk. Assuming all live, T/Q/665 seems better to me. Any kings or aces that come out, throw in middle. Any 9-J comes out, throw up top. Try to hold out on boat draw in back, but if you catch a live low card and you don't think the boat draw is still reasonable, place it in back. Ideal world is 6s full of 5s, queens, tens. Realistic goal is two pair, paint pair, tens.

Obviously if T is fully live and 5 is not, then I'd want 66T, but I still like Q in middle because your setup is for a 7 pt royalty up top but if the Q comes first it becomes big time gambool. My way says assumes we will get a 8-J at some point so we will have a shot at a 3-6 pt royalty for not nearly the level of gambool.

The difference in risk in pairs up top is grossly exponential as you get towards aces. Eights through Tens are nowhere near the risk that jacks and queens are, and queens is nowhere near the risk kings are, and aces dwarf all the others. The royalty structure doesn't accurately reflect the risk, so we shoud take advantage of that by pounding nines through jacks up top.

Remember, nines up top pays the same as a flush, and jacks the same as a boat.
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07-12-2013 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FlatTireSuited
Without FL, the 9-J royalty is a far better one to shoot for because its almost the same number of points for nowhere near the risk. Assuming all live, T/Q/665 seems better to me.

Remember, nines up top pays the same as a flush, and jacks the same as a boat.
You, sir, are utterly correct. This might help me in reducing my variance as lately I have taken to adopting a more aggressive approach. Great advice. Thank you.

I will just ask how you would set the hand should FL be in place?
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