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05-03-2017 , 05:12 PM
As Rapini said:
It's a legitimate and worthwhile concern. I can't think of any good reason why reduced rake wouldn't be automatic as soon as the threshold number of players dealt in is hit.

Do we really flame the guy who brought out this concern? I agree it was verbose, but, it is still a legitimate concern.
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05-03-2017 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lurshy
Four eyes principal.

No dealer should reduce rake without confirmation it is appropiate to do so.

The last thing a dealer wants is to be accused by mgmt of under raking - for many obvious reasons.

The last thing a casino wants is a dealer on their own deciding when too reduce the casino cut. Let the boss confirm and know that reduced rake is appropriate and occuring

Rake counting policies vary from room to room, but the four eyes principal is there for everyone's protection. No one wants a short count
I understand what you're saying and I appreciate your perspective, but this isn't a valid concern at MGMNH because there's security cameras focused on every table. The dealer would be able to prove via surveillance that he/she didn't do anything wrong if questioned by management.
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05-03-2017 , 06:02 PM
So security should get involved with routine management of rake and dealers? No. Wrong. Consider yourself fortunate they are breaking rake at 6 on request most casinos have a lower player count threhold.

Every casino ive played in to my knowledge has security cameras on each table. None of them have an automatic, no confirmatiom policy.
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05-03-2017 , 06:07 PM
I've seen auto policies.

I've seen no reduced ever policies.

"On request but usually yes", as at mgm, most common imo.
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05-03-2017 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lurshy
None of them have an automatic, no confirmatiom policy.

Maybe not today, but there was a time when Harrah's in AC was automatic w/ no confirmation



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05-03-2017 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lurshy
Every casino ive played in to my knowledge has security cameras on each table. None of them have an automatic, no confirmatiom policy.
I've played in rooms in Vegas where the rake was auto reduced when down to a certain number of players. I haven't played a hand rake game at the Bellagio but it looked like it was stated on the game plaque what rake should be taken based on how many players are dealt into a hand.
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05-03-2017 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lurshy
So security should get involved with routine management of rake and dealers? No. Wrong. Consider yourself fortunate they are breaking rake at 6 on request most casinos have a lower player count threhold.

Every casino ive played in to my knowledge has security cameras on each table. None of them have an automatic, no confirmatiom policy.
You're reading into my post something that wasn't there. Surveillance would be required only if/when management were to accuse a dealer of taking incorrect rake.

I also don't find your argument of "in my experience, everyone does it the inferior way" compelling.
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05-04-2017 , 04:45 PM
Hey all..

Visiting MGM Nat'l Harbor in a few weeks for the first time...Just curious how the action has been for 5/10 NL? Has there been less regs but also less fish since the craziness at the open? Assume 2/5 is pretty good anytime...people may not want to share, but also is there certain times of day to get there to avoid being on a long list ie when games tend to start? Thanks and looking forward to the visit..
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05-05-2017 , 03:49 AM
auto reduced rake would be great. Kind of getting tired of requesting it. Also, at least on one occasion a dealer did it without asking floor or announcing it and then give me attitude when i asked.

Seems like the solution here is to announce half rake, call floor, continue dealing, and then floor can confirm. If a hand or two is dealt at half rake while awaiting confirmation, I see minimal risk.

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Originally Posted by Lurshy
So security should get involved with routine management of rake and dealers? No. Wrong. Consider yourself fortunate they are breaking rake at 6 on request most casinos have a lower player count threhold.
So players and floor should get involved with routine management of rake? no. wrong. They should consider themselves fortunate we are paying a $7 rake at 7 player threshold when nearby states only charge $5.

herp a derp.
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05-05-2017 , 01:56 PM
I'm glad this issue has gained some traction ITT. I appreciate all the feedback and support after my rant on the previous page. Hopefully we will see a tweaking of their policy to allow dealers to proceed with reduced rake as soon as the 6-player threshold is met.
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05-05-2017 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeinNY
Hey all..

Visiting MGM Nat'l Harbor in a few weeks for the first time...Just curious how the action has been for 5/10 NL? Has there been less regs but also less fish since the craziness at the open? Assume 2/5 is pretty good anytime...people may not want to share, but also is there certain times of day to get there to avoid being on a long list ie when games tend to start? Thanks and looking forward to the visit..
There are more regs and less recreational players in pretty much every game now. The landscape changed pretty quickly, but you can still find good games of course. You used to have to get here before 2pm on Fri/Sat to avoid a long wait but that has gotten better. The really long lists only seem to be for 1/3 and occasionally 2/5 now. That said, an 8 person list for 5/10 could take a while if the room is full spread.

On another note, it looks like there is a chip cart by the front desk today selling to new players. That's a great improvement to the process. Thanks for implementing that, Johnny.

And lastly, this is not a poker room issue but reflects poorly on the property. Washing your hands in the restroom closest to the poker room is like solving a puzzle. Each sink has one, two, or all three components not working. You need to hop around to find soap, then water, then air. I've seen several people just leave without washing after the first three sinks they tried didn't put out soap or water, which I think we can all agree is not ideal.
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05-05-2017 , 04:39 PM
It's not just that restroom but all the restrooms on the property. I can't believe it's been this long and it's still not fixed. I often see rubber gloves over non-working components and lately you'll see what look like tissue boxes with paper towels to dry your hands. Pretty sad in a property that overall is damn nice.
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05-06-2017 , 07:03 PM
It would be amazing if MGM aired the boxing match tonight. With all their boxing connections, I'm sure there's a way for it to be profitable for them
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05-06-2017 , 07:25 PM
Anybody play 1/2 or 5/5 PLO here? How's it play on the weekends? Mostly regs?

Also, can you buy in for table stakes here in any of the games?

Thanks!
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05-06-2017 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by smokeygray14
Anybody play 1/2 or 5/5 PLO here? How's it play on the weekends? Mostly regs?

Also, can you buy in for table stakes here in any of the games?

Thanks!
Just the uncapped big games I believe
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05-07-2017 , 04:55 PM
Question. What are the rules concerning "blind bets" preflop. Just curious......
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05-07-2017 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by silverback87
Question. What are the rules concerning "blind bets" preflop. Just curious......
Encouraged
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05-07-2017 , 09:26 PM
I played a table today where it was very common for a blind bet to be out on the button. It was basically a straddle without the option. I was a fan. I'm curious if that somehow went against any of the straddle rules.
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05-07-2017 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by silverback87
I played a table today where it was very common for a blind bet to be out on the button. It was basically a straddle without the option. I was a fan. I'm curious if that somehow went against any of the straddle rules.
You mean that the Button just put out a raise out of turn and action started with UTG?
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05-08-2017 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by silverback87
I played a table today where it was very common for a blind bet to be out on the button. It was basically a straddle without the option. I was a fan. I'm curious if that somehow went against any of the straddle rules.
i mean if everyone limps the raise is valid, if someone raises he can take it back

its not a straddle or anything similar....carry on
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05-08-2017 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Coasterbrad

And lastly, this is not a poker room issue but reflects poorly on the property. Washing your hands in the restroom closest to the poker room is like solving a puzzle. Each sink has one, two, or all three components not working. You need to hop around to find soap, then water, then air. I've seen several people just leave without washing after the first three sinks they tried didn't put out soap or water, which I think we can all agree is not ideal.
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Originally Posted by psujohn
It's not just that restroom but all the restrooms on the property. I can't believe it's been this long and it's still not fixed. I often see rubber gloves over non-working components and lately you'll see what look like tissue boxes with paper towels to dry your hands. Pretty sad in a property that overall is damn nice.
I copied and pasted the above posts into an email to Guest Services at their email address which is available to the public on their website GuestServices@MGMNationalHarbor.com

Here is the response that I received:

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Thank you for contacting MGM National Harbor with your concerns. You are correct in displaying dismay with our sinks in the restrooms. We apologize you had to experience this service shortfall. Please know our engineering department is repairing the issue as quickly as possible. They are waiting for additional parts to ensure the problem will be rectified. We are also working with the manufacturer to avoid this problem in the future.

Additionally, I have contacted our maintenance as well in regards to the gloves. Our Director agrees that this situation is unacceptable and will address it with her team.

We are happy you were satisfied with the overall property and we are very grateful you took the time to document your issues. It is comments like yours that help us identify areas in need of improvement.

Please let us know if we may be of further assistance.
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05-08-2017 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
I copied and pasted the above posts into an email to Guest Services at their email address which is available to the public on their website GuestServices@MGMNationalHarbor.com

Here is the response that I received:
kudos to them for actually addressing your problems instead of giving you a generic copy/paste reply.
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05-08-2017 , 02:35 PM
Kudos to DCJ001 for emailing guest services instead of just griping here were they'd never see it.
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05-08-2017 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AnimaLettire
i mean if everyone limps the raise is valid, if someone raises he can take it back

its not a straddle or anything similar....carry on
Without knowing anything else what else would you call a "blind bet out on the button"? IMO this is out of position action and I'd wonder why no one else bothered to ask about it - let alone the dealers at the table controlling the situation.

Would it be OK if someone in middle position consistently was dropping chips in the pot out of position - because its OK if everyone limps?

My understanding is JG specifically decided against the button straddle which is why I wonder why the dealers didnt say anything.
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05-08-2017 , 05:33 PM
Button would put out ten prior to getting cards. Action started under the gun. If no raise before button, bet became ten at button. If raise before button, button had to fold/call/raise but ten remained in pot. We asked dealer, he said it was ok. Asked a passing floor, said it was ok.

I'm prolly explaining this crappy since Im on mobile.
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