Flash 20/40 limit Holdem game popping up Monday night at 5pm. I have 6 confirmed... Anyone else interested?

Am I mistaken, or are you the same guy who argued for a change in the high hand rules because you missed out on one?

ok so, you must be registered at 12:00. not in the building, at the atm, or in the line. If youre there at 11:59, you most likely will not be in the tournament.

Whatever the deadlne is, it would have to be enforced at time of registration, the time would be an exact time, and it would need to be enforced uniformly. there really isnt anouther way to do it.

Adding a 10 minute break doesnt change anything, just sets an equally as strict deadline at 12:10, and you could have the exact same conversation if you hit the line at 12:09 and got registered at 12:12.

You bubbled the registration cutoff, sucks but it happens.

I somehow felt that you might bring out this instance.

My argument was having an uniform rule at the card rooms in the same area. If you can review, I did agree that the way they do at MGM was less controversial, as one of the responsible players, I did take up the case to the other room and provided their input.

If you are saying I am only looking out for my self for rule changes then that is wrong.

I gave you a chronological timeframe of when I was at the property and when I was in the line. As Tomark suggested, I probably was the registration cut-off bubble.

The change in breaks I was suggesting would add only 5 mins to the timeline. Let me know what are your suggestions that might help the player pool in this regard?

I've played multiple tournaments @ MGM and they're great the way they are. There's no need to add time to the overall tournament and there's no need to make breaks longer than they are already.

I think what MGM could do to help the player pool is make sure their rules are displayed prominently and enforced consistently. In this instance, they're doing that. This is on BravoPokerLive.com:

If you read Johnny's post above, the end of level 4 is at 12:00p. I'm not sure how it could be clearer.

I think you're recommending a change to the break structure, which includes adding time to the overall tournament, for your own benefit and to the detriment of other players. You did the same thing regarding the high hand situation. I mentioned that to show that your most recent request is part of a pattern. To your credit, you came around on the issue once your recommendation was pretty uniformly denounced by the community and JG provided you with a comp. But I think it's disingenuous to pretend that you are bringing up these issues because you think changes would be better for the majority of the community.

I recommend showing up for the start of the tournament if you plan on playing it. Even if you don't want to start playing until after noon like this week, you can sit in a cash game until you're ready to play the tournament. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. You're suggesting a solution where there is no problem to be solved.

FWIW, I don't think it's a big deal if they accept a player's registration a couple of minutes after the deadline. There's no harm to anyone and if anything, the player who registers late starts from a disadvantageous position.

1. There were four people who ended up at the registration at the time I was trying to register. Your sentence that it is would help me alone is incorrect.

2. There are instances when the tournament started after 11AM which makes the time 12PM cutoff time not written in stone. Lets say you are in the line at a store and the store closes at 9PM, if you reach the clerk at 9:01, would you be allowed to complete your transaction?

3. Your indication that, I agreed or came back to agree only after the community denounced it and after I received a comp was irresponsible on your part. How about me talking to the other room for clarification on the same and whether it could be enforced in a similar way. Is that helping me alone?

4. Things or processes don't have to be broken to be fixed. They can be improved too. Don't we all want something that would help both the parties, the business and the players.

In the end I am not here to appease you (sorry to put it this way). JG said he will look into it and make a decision. I am happy for the discussion I initiated and the response I received from the room management.

1. Please quote the sentence where I said "it is would help me alone."

2. Do you show up to the store at 9:02p and expect to be able to buy something?

3. Truth = irresponsibility? Wow. Everything I said is 100% true. Reread the posts from that situation if you have any doubts about that.

4. Adding more time to a tournament that does not include expanding blind levels does not improve the experience and it does not help the business. Tables taken by a tournament that could be taken by cash games is a loss for the room and for cash game patrons.

I'm sure that your happiness with this discussion will lead you to complain here again when something doesn't go your way.

If the rule is "be in line by 12" and you were in line by 12 you have a complaint. If the rule is "be registered by 12" and you weren't registered by 12 you have no complaint. If the rule is unclear or inconsistent you might have a complaint.

Regardless you were over an hour late compared to the start of the tourney. And no matter what the cutoff time is there's going to be a case when you're there a little late. In that case enjoy the cash games that don't have a preset start time.

Perfectly articulated (and succinct) - I agree with this 100%

Way too much crying over spilt milk.

Well said! The event is over and I was not in it.

The standard responses from Rapini makes me laugh sometimes:

4. Adding more time to a tournament that does not include expanding blind levels does not improve the experience and it does not help the business. Tables taken by a tournament that could be taken by cash games is a loss for the room and for cash game patrons.

Wednesday Morning, 18 cash games with no wait list in a 39 table room (-6 for tournament). How is one/more entries (55 entrants total, not sure the current number at that time, def less than 50) is a loss for the business.

Also, I must be omni present If I can be in the checkout line at 9 and also show up at the entrance of a store at 9:02.

The simple solution would have been, approach a floor before Level 4, explain the situation about cash in hand, if allowed walk to the ATM and if not approach the podium for cash game registration. Problem solved!

But you're the one that started the crying.

Needed my quota of Standard Responses before reaching the realization stage.

Way to ignore my response to you misquoting me and misrepresenting my statements. I particularly enjoy that combined with your claim that I was being "irresponsible" in a previous response.

You're focusing on the wrong part of the day when attempting to determine whether adding time to the tournament would help or hurt management.

Rapini how do you interpret this:

I think you're recommending a change to the break structure, which includes adding time to the overall tournament, for your own benefit and to the detriment of other players.
>> Can you explain how this is a detriment to other players?

You did the same thing regarding the high hand situation. I mentioned that to show that your most recent request is part of a pattern.

To your credit, you came around on the issue once your recommendation was pretty uniformly denounced by the community and JG provided you with a comp.
>> I came around because I was comped is a classy way of saying it!

But I think it's disingenuous to pretend that you are bringing up these issues because you think changes would be better for the majority of the community.
>>Provide me a reference that I am against the majority of the community.

You're focusing on the wrong part of the day when attempting to determine whether adding time to the tournament would help or hurt management.
>> I thought the registration issue I was refering to was at Noon on a Wednesday. I am not sure which part of the day you are referring too. Also, at Noon there are 6 tables, at 6PM (typical ending) there is usually one table. Now you tell me what you are trying to say in your standard response.

I think my writing is pretty clear, but I'm open to the idea that it's not. What, in your opinion, is in need of interpretation?

Your "solution" to the problem that doesn't exist is to add time to the tournament. Adding time to the tournament that does not extend blind levels is a detriment to players because it lengthens the tournament without providing more play. That is a waste of time that could be used for playing in cash games or for non-poker activities.

You came around after the vast majority of the community set you straight and Johnny gave you a comp. Those are facts. What was classy (or, if you were being sarcastic, not classy) about those facts?

You were against the community's interests when you stated that MGM should change its high hand policy and you're against it when you recommend extending a tournament without extending play.

You're incorrectly focused on cash games and wait lists at the beginning of the tournament instead of at the end of the tournament. Extending a tournament takes away tables that could be used for cash games for a longer period of time.

I think I am done with this discussion. You are right Rapini. Your interpretations don't need an interpretation.

Wait lists at 6PM are not affected by tournament table(s) as they are only a few players left at the end, which most of the time gets chopped and ends early. Believe me on this as I play a lot of them than you do. The daily(s) only run from M-Th which are usually slow days.

The problem isn't that registration closes too early. It is that you got there too late.

so you acknowledge it's a GolfPro issue and not a MGM or other players issue. way to make it all about you.

Too late is debatable. But, at this point whatever you guys feel too tired to defend a lost cause!

Compromise:

If you are in line before registration is closed, you should be allowed to register. Though logistically this will require some dilligence.

Pushing back a deadline doesn't help, if you show up late without money and need to first tie your shoe, get a snack, go to the atm, and then regisister. Maybe have cash on you and leave for the casino a bit earlier...

Hey Golfpro,

The EZ fix is to bring a bigger bankroll, leave home 30 minutes early and this not only save you 6 bucks at the AMT but guaranteed that you are registered. If all else fail, just look me up if I am in the room and I'll be happy to give you a line of credit with no fee.

T

Heard a floor deny a table transfer request because there's a "1 hour limit" in between transfer requests. Is that a real thing? (It was not a new game he was trying to go to)

You nailed it sire 😀

A free line of credit is better than the comp that I was suppose to receive from MGM.