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01-25-2017 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BMoreE
2/2 still seems healthy at least on the weekends; at least 2, sometimes 3 tables. Definitely lots of action too (no real need to raise the buyin there in my estimation.) Was a fun game last weekend for the most part, everyone friendly.


hmm guess i'm already playing and not checking Bravo during prime weekend hours, that's true, my bad. I have noticed only the usual holdem games (4/8, 1/2, 2/5) running a few times when i look on midmorning Saturday or something, when iirc the 2/2 would run all night a lot

glad to hear the plo game is still good
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01-25-2017 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by homerdash
I have noticed only the usual holdem games (4/8, 1/2, 2/5) running a few times when i look on midmorning Saturday or something, when iirc the 2/2 would run all night a lot

glad to hear the plo game is still good
You're definitely seeing a difference; No more 4 or 5 must-move tables like pre-MGM. But the few that go are surviving (which I'm happy about - i only play it occasionally, but like that it's there for a change of pace from Holdem or O8.) I guess that just means that there are enough Omaha players that live this side of 495 and aren't willing to chase the "bigger fish" to be fried from NoVA?
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01-25-2017 , 05:07 PM
Have the self comps for poker been increased from last year? It looks like I've gotten $2/hour this year.
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01-26-2017 , 08:24 PM
I just got email. Typing from a table at M so I'm skipping details. $2100 to top 4 hands hourly (with 3 hour gap) every day except Friday. Also it looks like if you play 50 hours in a week, you get $500 back.


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01-27-2017 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by daveopie
I just got email. Typing from a table at M so I'm skipping details. $2100 to top 4 hands hourly (with 3 hour gap) every day except Friday. Also it looks like if you play 50 hours in a week, you get $500 back.
OK - here are the Feb promotion details, cut and pasted from the email I got:

$2,100 HIGH HANDS
TOP 4 HIGH HANDS WIN!
Saturday - Thursday
11:00AM - 4:00PM & 7:00PM - 12:00AM

EARLY MORNING RAPID FIRE HIGH HANDS
WIN $100 EVERY 10 MINUTES!
Monday - Friday
9:00AM - 11:00AM

Late Night High Hands
DAILY 12:00AM - 7:00AM
$250 Every 30 Minutes

Play 50 Hours, Earn $500
QUALIFYING PERIOD REDEMPTION PERIOD
February 1-7 Friday, February 10 • 11:00AM - 11:00PM
February 8-14 Friday, February 17 • 11:00AM - 11:00PM
February 15-21 Friday, February 24 • 11:00AM - 11:00PM
February 22-28 Friday, March 3 • 11:00AM - 11:00PM
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01-27-2017 , 09:35 AM
Gotta say I'm pretty unhappy about the $500 for 50 hours bit. I have a full time job so there's no way I'm putting in 50 hours. The people putting in 50 hours aren't dropping $10/hr in the jackpot box. That means that guys like me that play 10-20 hours a week are just subsidizing the retired/pro/degens that can put in 50 hours.

At least with the BBJ/High Hand there's some chance I can get my share.

Not happy with that one at all.
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01-27-2017 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by psujohn
Gotta say I'm pretty unhappy about the $500 for 50 hours bit. I have a full time job so there's no way I'm putting in 50 hours. The people putting in 50 hours aren't dropping $10/hr in the jackpot box. That means that guys like me that play 10-20 hours a week are just subsidizing the retired/pro/degens that can put in 50 hours.

At least with the BBJ/High Hand there's some chance I can get my share.

Not happy with that one at all.
At first, I was excited - seems like a cool promo. But yeah, even if I took a vacation day and played Sat/Sun, playing 12 hours each of those days, I doubt I could get to 50 hours.

On the other hand, the goal of the promo is to keep the room full, and that should keep the regulars playing there, with their butts in the seats - which is good for the part time players. And with weekend high hands, we'll still have a chance to hit something.
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01-27-2017 , 10:27 AM
50 hours in a week is pretty much gifting the money to regulars while purposefully having it out of reach to those who work. To be close to receiving the promo, I'd have to play 5 hours after work each workday, then play 25 hours over the weekend. Something that is just not happening. I'm with psujohn on this one. disappointing. It will actually convince me not to play there in february.
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01-27-2017 , 12:24 PM
Agree on the disappointment over the $500 for 50 hours promo. It's also going to lead to a lot of nitty shortstacking from certain regs who don't want to lose much while making the money.
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01-27-2017 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by daveopie
On the other hand, the goal of the promo is to keep the room full, and that should keep the regulars playing there, with their butts in the seats - which is good for the part time players.
90% of the guys who'll earn $500 for playing 50 hours would have played those 50 hours without the $500.

Plus these are exactly the guys I don't want at my table. An hours thing like this suits the OMC and the breakeven/winning regs. There's zero chance that some blackjack degen is going to wander into the poker room because of this promo.

The drawing giveaway based on hours was bad enough but because the hours were over the weekend only and the drawing is still random it doesn't completely exclude those that work. It still heavily favored those who live in the room. I saw 3 people win more than once - either in the same day or over Sun/Mon and I'm sure there were more. But at least with the luck factor I had some small chance of winning and the promo had some chance of drawing people into the room.

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01-27-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by psujohn
90% of the guys who'll earn $500 for playing 50 hours would have played those 50 hours without the $500.

Plus these are exactly the guys I don't want at my table. An hours thing like this suits the OMC and the breakeven/winning regs. There's zero chance that some blackjack degen is going to wander into the poker room because of this promo.
If what you're saying is true, the bright side is games at HB and MGMNH should be better because anyone whose goal is to sit around and fold would be stupid to play anywhere other than MDL. So turn it into a positive for yourself and play at HB or MGMNH.

Competition is good. The market will adjust.
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01-27-2017 , 02:29 PM
Yeah I'm about equal distance driving time from all 3. I've only been to HSB once - don't really like the room. I love the action at MGM but depending on time it can still be crowded. i've generally done weekends at MGM when I can get there early. I'll probably move all my weekend play to MGM and do ML weeknights after work when it's generally going to be quicker for me to get into a game - and I do really like the 2100 top 4 high hands promo.
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01-27-2017 , 06:30 PM
If I am reading the promos correctly. No high Hands Fridays during prime evening hours? And 50 hour/week min to get rakeback promo?! Lol are they trying to steer people away? Rakeback idea is great but make it obtainable for the rec player. 25 hours / $250!!
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01-28-2017 , 12:39 AM
just checked bravo:
Current Bad Beat Jackpot as of 1/27/17 $20,000?!

just hit?
what hands?

and only $20k bbj reset?
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01-28-2017 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AA Suited
just checked bravo:
Current Bad Beat Jackpot as of 1/27/17 $20,000?!

just hit?
what hands?

and only $20k bbj reset?
Hit Thursday night at a limit table

Straight flush over straight flush
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01-28-2017 , 02:02 AM
50 hours a week...!

That's a full work week with 10 hours of overtime added. Then have to go to real work.

Not good.
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01-28-2017 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerini
50 hours a week...!

That's a full work week with 10 hours of overtime added. Then have to go to real work.

Not good.
Yep. Gift of us working real job casual player's money to the regs/omc's that play those hours anyway.

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01-28-2017 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by psujohn
I doubt many here are in the target for an intro level NL game. I have mixed feelings. I don't want to play it and I'd rather have those guys in my 1/2 but if it bring new people into the room it's good.

Intro level PLO would be very interesting. 1/1 or 1/2 with no straddle.

On the bigger end what about a 5/5/ uncapped or 5/5 $1000 or even $1500. Might get some of the 2/5 guys to move up and satisfy the guys who want to play 5/10.

Side note: can you try to balance the room a bit more when using the upstairs? I was up there last night and there were like 4 cash tables and 4 tournament tables. It was super quiet. Kinda too quiet. Downstairs was packed and lively. I guess I shoulda just table changed downstairs but I think that a certain amount of activity in the room drives action and maybe if 3 or 4 of those downstairs games were up it'd be more balanced.
The 5-5 PLO days or over with we can barley get a 2-2 running now MGM took it all
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01-28-2017 , 01:29 PM
For the weekly hours promo, I would like if it can be structured in such a way that it facilitates rec players. It can be stacked more at the top, but, a little lenient for all would be nice.

150/200 for 25
300 for 30
400 for 40
500 for 50+

25 hours per week would pretty much lock in the rec players for 5 days a week which is what the management wants. If you want to eliminate the weekends that would be fine too, as weekends would be busy anyways.
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01-28-2017 , 02:09 PM
I like the 50/500 promotion. I suspect it will be successful and have a higher ROI than the recent high hands have been having. And no, I don't expect to personally achieve it each week. But I do think it will be good for the room.

To everybody saying that it's "not fair" or is taking money from the recs and giving it to the full time grinders, I disagree. Who do you think built up the reserve in the first place? The grinders, that's who. Every promotion has had and will have a group of players who have scheduling conflicts. I personally couldn't be there on Sunday's for the drawing this month. Oh well, it is what it is.
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01-28-2017 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by yg13
Hit Thursday night at a limit table

Straight flush over straight flush
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Yeah, it was Thursday night around 10-11pm. First time I'd ever been in a room when a big BBJ hit. $4/$8 LHE, 5h6h < ThJh.
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01-29-2017 , 06:17 PM
Does the 500 hours have to be at a bad beat eligible table? My first thought was the no high hand promotions on Fridays would be good for the Omaha games this month. However requiring the 500 hours be obtained at a BBJ table would still suck the soul from Omaha.
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01-29-2017 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BikerPoet1100
Does the 500 hours have to be at a bad beat eligible table? My first thought was the no high hand promotions on Fridays would be good for the Omaha games this month. However requiring the 500 hours be obtained at a BBJ table would still suck the soul from Omaha.
I would be ridiculously surprised if it wasnt. All promotions are contingent on playing at bbj tables.
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01-31-2017 , 12:04 PM
Came up in another thread but I was wondering if anyone ever ran into an issue with the 2 policies about moving stacks that are at odds at MDL.

If a player voluntarily tables changes the have to bring between min and max for the stakes.
If a player leaves the room and comes back within an hour to the same stakes they have to bring their entire stack.

Seems to me that if you're deep and want to move you just put your chips in a rack, walk out the room, and come back and get a new seat. I suspect that in practice the 2nd rule is only going to come into play at stakes where there is only 1 table going.
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01-31-2017 , 01:57 PM
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I suspect that in practice the 2nd rule is only going to come into play at stakes where there is only 1 table going.
or a must move
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