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11-11-2013 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by yg13
any update on sit and go tourneys being offered? Would love to get one running next time I'm down there
Mike,

Also, is there any update on triple draw games? I can imagine that the room is still very busy, but the weekdays/nights still have open tables.

Thanks, and keep up the great work...things are running smoothly considering it's still only been 3 months!
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11-11-2013 , 05:48 PM
Mike,

Right now the distribution of games is skewed way too heavily toward 1/2. There are currently 23 1/2 games running with maybe a dozen names on the list, ZERO 5/5 PLO with 34 names on the list, one 5/10 game with 17 waiting, zero 10/10 PLO or 10/25 NL with over a dozen names for each... Today's numbers might be a little more extreme than usual but this problem occurs fairly often. It would be great if people in charge of opening tables would consider the running tables to wait list ratio. Thanks.
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11-11-2013 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by yg13
any update on sit and go tourneys being offered? Would love to get one running next time I'm down there
No update but soon

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Originally Posted by Jamfreek
Mike,

Also, is there any update on triple draw games? I can imagine that the room is still very busy, but the weekdays/nights still have open tables.

Thanks, and keep up the great work...things are running smoothly considering it's still only been 3 months!
Thanks but not yet.

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Originally Posted by busticator
Mike,

Right now the distribution of games is skewed way too heavily toward 1/2. There are currently 23 1/2 games running with maybe a dozen names on the list, ZERO 5/5 PLO with 34 names on the list, one 5/10 game with 17 waiting, zero 10/10 PLO or 10/25 NL with over a dozen names for each... Today's numbers might be a little more extreme than usual but this problem occurs fairly often. It would be great if people in charge of opening tables would consider the running tables to wait list ratio. Thanks.
I was here all day and at 1pm we had small or no lists for the big games, in fact the 5-10 had seats open earlier. I realize today is probably an anomoly for the 1/2s and 2/5s but we make a conscious effort to open different games and limits as proven by weekends when there will be 10-12 different games and limits going


Thanks



Mike
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11-11-2013 , 11:37 PM
aloft hotel.. clean, safe, simple drive to the casino? Thanks
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11-11-2013 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt24
aloft hotel.. clean, safe, simple drive to the casino? Thanks
Yes it is. Free wifi and bottled water.
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11-12-2013 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MichaelOar
O/8. 2 Hands tabled on river. Pot split incorrectly (chopped instead of 3/4). Player says something prior to next hand, but after deck is cut. Can the pot split error be fixed? I thought someone could speak up 3 hands later, so long as hands were tabled...???

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Similar thing happened to me a few weeks ago. 1st hand of the day picked up a monster and capped it pre w 6 callers, bet every street, and ended up chopping w an older gentleman Ppl start talking, welcome to the tbl talk, and ended up in a lil small talk as the dealer gets to work chopping (which should already be done or started). Older guy I chopped w makes a statement to her like hold on a second as She slides me chips but knocks it down and just pushes the pile. Old guy then says forget it and I start to stack the pile as dealer slides old man a stack and begins to collect cards. I sat down w a full rack and always lay it out in 5 equal stacks on table I bet every chance and was 4 way to river but only had 6 and a half stacks after hand. Turns out there was a guy making calls w $25 green chips and a bunch of them were placed in one stack. Old guy noticed but when the dealer pushed the stack w/o green chips to me he clammed up real quick. I spoke up as she was dealing the first few cards of the next hand. Dealer denied any mistake and old guy didn't speak up. I called the floor and they said it was too late. Luckily it was only 4/8 and didn't cost me that much but learned a lesson.....never trust old people!!
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11-12-2013 , 12:23 PM
Played over the weekend - much better & improved experience and understandable wait (waited ~1 hr with 30 ppl ahead of me at 2/5). The brush ladies notified me of my position in queue and this info allowed me to play blackjack for a bit instead of camping out near the room. Dealers were excellent as always - everything seems to be falling into place here.

Late Sunday night I noticed many players refusing to let another player (short Indian guy) play at their 2/5 tables - I didn't get the full details. But if he was shady/cheating then it's the casinos responsibility to ban him - weird to see players take on the role of the floor.
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11-12-2013 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DryAngel
Played over the weekend - much better & improved experience and understandable wait (waited ~1 hr with 30 ppl ahead of me at 2/5). The brush ladies notified me of my position in queue and this info allowed me to play blackjack for a bit instead of camping out near the room. Dealers were excellent as always - everything seems to be falling into place here.

Late Sunday night I noticed many players refusing to let another player (short Indian guy) play at their 2/5 tables - I didn't get the full details. But if he was shady/cheating then it's the casinos responsibility to ban him - weird to see players take on the role of the floor.
They can text you if you ask.
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11-12-2013 , 01:31 PM
They have my number - Verizon service is spotty inside the building. Tried to access texts via wifi but seems to work mostly when close/at the poker room so....

Nothing they can fix so just checked the list periodically and it all worked out.

Thanks
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11-12-2013 , 02:17 PM
I just went to this casino for the first time last week and played there Wednesday afternoon $80NLHE tourney. I was very impressed. Wound up having 151 entrants and a first-place prize of almost $3,000. I was in a group of six who decided to chop at the end and we each cleared more than $1,200.

The only complaint that I had was that I got there late and signed up right around the 2:15 p.m. deadline to join (tournament started at 12:15 p.m. and has two hours late registration/rebuy). It probably took me about 20 minutes to actually get a seat at a table because they did not have enough dealers.

But I was very impressed, especially at the number of players. I had played in a a tourney at the Rivers Casino in Pittsburgh two years ago, and there were probably only 50 players in it, so the volume was a pleasant surprise.
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11-12-2013 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DryAngel
They have my number - Verizon service is spotty inside the building. Tried to access texts via wifi but seems to work mostly when close/at the poker room so....

Nothing they can fix so just checked the list periodically and it all worked out.

Thanks
Texts are carried over cell lines, not wifi/3g/4g data lines. I always get my texts in the casino. (this is why text messages were useful during the earthquake.)
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11-12-2013 , 03:09 PM
I'm a big fan of MD Live, and play the $2/2 PLO game regularly. I want to suggest two changes that I think would improve the game and that most players would be in favor of.

1: Set it up as a must move. The game is popular, and there are frequently 2-3 tables running on weekends.

2: Change it to time rake so we can run multiple boards. The game plays quite big, and allowing multiple runs like in the higher PLO games would be a better option. Last night, for example, had a typical PLO hand with flopped top set vs a wrap, with effective stacks around $800. For a $1600+ pot, I would've loved to have the option to run it twice.
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11-12-2013 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NoBigE
r smith

I'm a poker player in your awesome poker room. Prior to August (opening day) I played at a casino in Charles Town.

You do your hold back for each (assuming you hold back). Typically,
70% of each dollar in the jack pot is backed up by 30 cents held for the next jack pot. That way the next jack pot doesn't start at $0.

Best!
Roger
25% of the BB rake goes to the Mega BB jackpot. 75%!!! goes to reserve. When the Mega BB hits they only start the new jackpot with $20k from the reserve. The reserve has to be several hundred thousand dollars by now.
I believe their thinking is to spread the money around to more players which is why they take 10% from the Main BB to pay the mini BB instead of letting the main BB get really large.
I agree with spreading the money around to more players but would like to see the Mega BB start bigger at something like $50k after being hit. This would make the mini BB worth $5k at a minimum and still probably not let the mega BB get too much more than $125k based on what it's been in the past.


I play here about 5 times per week. The room is great and the staff have made a lot of improvements such as seating players faster and stopping line jumpers.
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11-12-2013 , 06:27 PM
Hi all,

I'm from silver spring.
I used to play at CT until i realized that they weren't serious about putting together an enjoyable atmosphere. (Though its was a total donkfest) I later moved to playing at DP. The large tournaments, decent promotions and nice atmosphere had its privileges. Now that Mlive is three months in, I am definitely looking to try it.
I've been reading through the thread here for a couple days now and have a few questions for you.

average # of players for each day + night tourny?
Do they allow chopping?
Quality of average player?
Are weekdays busy?

Also, whats is the parking situation?

Thanks in advance

Hope to see you guys there.
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11-12-2013 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by marcme
Hi all,

I'm from silver spring.
I used to play at CT until i realized that they weren't serious about putting together an enjoyable atmosphere. (Though its was a total donkfest) I later moved to playing at DP. The large tournaments, decent promotions and nice atmosphere had its privileges. Now that Mlive is three months in, I am definitely looking to try it.
I've been reading through the thread here for a couple days now and have a few questions for you.

average # of players for each day + night tourny?
Do they allow chopping?
Quality of average player?
Are weekdays busy?

Also, whats is the parking situation?

Thanks in advance

Hope to see you guys there.
Bravo app for tourney data
Yes
Bad
Busier than anywhere that isn't commerce or Foxwoods
Usually ok, bad on weekends. It's a mall.
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11-12-2013 , 07:38 PM
Maryland Live = my new favorite poker room- the only poker room in the country that runs PLO8 cash games fairly regularly (afaik- feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). Drove down quite a large distance on 4 different weekends so far and have been seeing fairly new faces every time, not just the same regs over and over again. Pleased to see that the game is still going strong .
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11-12-2013 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RP54
25% of the BB rake goes to the Mega BB jackpot. 75%!!! goes to reserve. When the Mega BB hits they only start the new jackpot with $20k from the reserve. The reserve has to be several hundred thousand dollars by now.
I believe their thinking is to spread the money around to more players which is why they take 10% from the Main BB to pay the mini BB instead of letting the main BB get really large.
I believe Mike has said that there will be additional promotions, such as "high hand" bonuses coming as the reserve builds.

Player opinions on the mini-BBJ differ, as some want to see the mega build higher, while others like the $ being returned and spread around more often. I believe the mega has been hit 3 times now.

As a regular playing 5+ days a week, I have been at the table for 1 Mini, and 2 Royals. It's nice to get some of that rake back. But more importantly, people really enjoy hitting one. And other people see it happening. I think keeping them easier to hit goes a lot further towards people coming in or coming back than a huge mega would.

And that's like, my opinion, man.
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11-12-2013 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bike Crash
I'm a big fan of MD Live, and play the $2/2 PLO game regularly. I want to suggest two changes that I think would improve the game and that most players would be in favor of.

1: Set it up as a must move. The game is popular, and there are frequently 2-3 tables running on weekends.

2: Change it to time rake so we can run multiple boards. The game plays quite big, and allowing multiple runs like in the higher PLO games would be a better option. Last night, for example, had a typical PLO hand with flopped top set vs a wrap, with effective stacks around $800. For a $1600+ pot, I would've loved to have the option to run it twice.
I think is a good idea to have a must move game. However, 2/2 PLO should not be time raked game b/c too many players are too slow to act even with $ 15 preflop raise and some of them took 3 mins to just call a $ 150 pot. Running it twice should only be allowed if the pot is at least 3k otherwise it just not cost effective since most dealers are not proficient in figuring pot size in a timely manner. Lots of time players have to step in and help out and that added extra time to figure out the pot.

The only good thing about a time raked 2/2 game is to keep the players in their seats b/c I am sick and tired of those who sat down and played 2 hands in every 1/2 hour and just keep wondering around the poker room. It happened so many times that these guys pacing up and down the poker room and holding up the seats for more than 30 mins. I did ask the dealer to bag them up but dealer said it has go through 2 orbits. Sometimes when they returned, they only played one hand and pacing up and down again. How do we deal with these people?
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11-12-2013 , 08:50 PM
I'm fine with how they are handling and dispersing the jackpot funds. They don't need the draw of a big bbj to fill the room.

My theory is that they are keeping much more money in the reserve and when the new casinos open in the immediate area they will bump the bbj to 500k or so to keep players at MDLive. If that's the case I give the decision makers a lot of credit for planning ahead.
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11-12-2013 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by marcme
h the thread here for a couple days now and have a few questions for you.

average # of players for each day + night tourny?
Do they allow chopping?
Quality of average player?
Are weekdays busy?

Also, whats is the parking situation?

Thanks in advance

Hope to see you guys there.
1) 120-180 counting rebuys
2) Yes
3) Very bad early on. Loose-aggro
4) Yes
5) Good before 5-6pm on weekdays, on weekends.....good luck. Arundel Mills, for as big as it is is notorious for lack of parking, even before Live.
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11-12-2013 , 09:13 PM
Parking is only going to get worse as the holidays approach. Get there early/mid morning and use valet.

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11-12-2013 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by zoltan
Texts are carried over cell lines, not wifi/3g/4g data lines. I always get my texts in the casino. (this is why text messages were useful during the earthquake.)
I use Google Voice so need data connection to get texts. Special case here so just dealing with it.

In any case, they seem to have gotten the wait list situation under control now. Shows they listen to the players and try to improve the experience.

As for the mega and mini, the way it is structured is good - gets hits frequently enough to reward a variety of players and keeps more money in the poker economy.
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11-12-2013 , 11:38 PM
I think Mike definitely has it right. In regards to keeping the room busy ... The room doesn't need a HUGE jackpot to draw players,there are PLENTY of people in the area that WANT to play poker, but if you pull too much money away from players then they cant AFFORD to play poker... as said before let people keep hitting for 2-5k it's going to get put right to use playing poker... give them 50k or 100k.. its not going back.

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I'm fine with how they are handling and dispersing the jackpot funds. They don't need the draw of a big bbj to fill the room.

My theory is that they are keeping much more money in the reserve and when the new casinos open in the immediate area they will bump the bbj to 500k or so to keep players at MDLive. If that's the case I give the decision makers a lot of credit for planning ahead.
I don't think you'll see a 500k bbj.. but I'm sure the day/week Horseshoe opens there will be plenty of promotions and cash give aways at LIVE! to keep players there.
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11-13-2013 , 08:41 AM
I ended up chopping the Tuesday night $150 8K GTD tourney three ways last night. The tourney had about ~110 entrants or so and it started at 7:15pm. We got down to 3 handed at around 1:35 am. Overall I thought the structure was pretty solid.

We did a rough chip chop where the shortstack got a few hundred dollars more than third place would have gotten and me and the other guy chopped the rest two ways. Original payouts were: $3.9K for first, $2.3K for second, $1.5K for third. We ended up chopping it so third got $2K and me and the other guy got just under $2.9K each.

The only hope/suggesstion that I have is that the poker room gets an ICM calculator for exact and accurate chip chops, if desired. We basically just did some rough math between the three of us and agreed on the above amounts but having one of those calculators and having the tourney directors officiate the exact payouts would be a nice feature to have. Other than that I can't complain I thought it was a pretty well run tourney.
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11-13-2013 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DoubleR90
I ended up chopping the Tuesday night $150 8K GTD tourney three ways last night. The tourney had about ~110 entrants or so and it started at 7:15pm. We got down to 3 handed at around 1:35 am. Overall I thought the structure was pretty solid.

We did a rough chip chop where the shortstack got a few hundred dollars more than third place would have gotten and me and the other guy chopped the rest two ways. Original payouts were: $3.9K for first, $2.3K for second, $1.5K for third. We ended up chopping it so third got $2K and me and the other guy got just under $2.9K each.

The only hope/suggesstion that I have is that the poker room gets an ICM calculator for exact and accurate chip chops, if desired. We basically just did some rough math between the three of us and agreed on the above amounts but having one of those calculators and having the tourney directors officiate the exact payouts would be a nice feature to have. Other than that I can't complain I thought it was a pretty well run tourney.
Lolz. you can get an ICM chop calculator for your smart phone for < $1.00.
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