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02-13-2009 , 06:51 PM
It baffels you that people like me have an understanding of how things work? Wow, what a concept. It's not as if anything that I said was out of the realm of reality.

I'm a lot better full ring, rather than heads up, but I usually am pretty deepstacked to about $5K, so if that's the price where you usually play, I'm sure that we sit at the same tables. By the way, I never said that I was a baller (even though, in reality, I am)


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Originally Posted by AJ47
Yoolykeme- Nothing you said hurts my feelings or seems insensitive....it just baffels me that we have people in the world like you. I wouldn't eat dinner with you for 10k.

If you such a baller I'll challege you to a 5k heads up match.... if that's to low name your price....
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02-13-2009 , 06:52 PM
yay

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Originally Posted by Mike1111
Ill eat with you lonely douche. We all need friends.
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02-13-2009 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by yoolykeme
How cute. I got them riled up.


What you all seem to forget is that venue that we are in. It's a casino. Loosely defined, it's an organization that thrives on engaging patrons in negative sum propositions. the larger your investment in a negative sum prop, the larger the casino's expected take.

Given such, it would only behoove the casino to ensure that those who do account for larger percentages of the profits be pampered and taken care of. This is not an issue of fairness, it is one of value, and if you can't comprehend the meaning of value, you probably shouldn't even play poker to begin with.


Note: The "douchin-esque" tone of my rebuttal may hurt your feelings, or make me seem insensitive, but it's the truth. Go ahead and keep on screaming injustice, as you would. In the meantime, I'm going to have some prime rib in the Diamond lounge. I can bring in a guest. Would you like to come? It's free....
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Look everyone he is trying to impress us. Thanks for telling us it an issue of value, I was totally in the dark and could not understand why. I glade this is comming from a value expert / Diamond player as your self.

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02-13-2009 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AJ47
Yoolykeme- Nothing you said hurts my feelings or seems insensitive....it just baffels me that we have people in the world like you. I wouldn't eat dinner with you for 10k.

If you such a baller I'll challege you to a 5k heads up match.... if that's to low name your price....
1st Durr and PA and now we have AJ47 and Yoolykeme/
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02-14-2009 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by yoolykeme
How cute. I got them riled up.

I can dissect this in many ways, but let's take this one at a time.

"until upper-tier players pay more rake they don't deserve..."

I'll submit that upper-tier players do pay more rake. A full NL game takes $144/hr in rake guaranteed, $160 if there's a 7 stars taking up space. The lower tier takes what? 10%, up to a $5 max? to equal this, a lower tier game would have to deal ~30+ hands/hr that break the $50 pot mark. So, that's 1 hand/2 min, with a guaranteed $50 in the pot every time. at a 3-6 game? Even at a 10-20 game, it's still hard enough to deal that many hands/hour.... Umm....doubtful.

So by your reasoning, upper-tier players pay more rake, therefore deserve more perks. I'm sure that you'll whine your way out of that one.



"7 stars players can't get in my game..."

Sure they can. 7 stars players donk more into the casino in 1 HSBJ/BAc session, than a whole table of lower-tier players do in a whole day of max rake. If I were the casino, I'd make sure that they're pretty happy, and if it includes temporarily inserting a chair into a 3-6 game, so be it.



"The promo/freeroll sucks...."

Yea, well, that's subjective, so whatever....All the stuff above, is objective.



What you all seem to forget is that venue that we are in. It's a casino. Loosely defined, it's an organization that thrives on engaging patrons in negative sum propositions. the larger your investment in a negative sum prop, the larger the casino's expected take.

Given such, it would only behoove the casino to ensure that those who do account for larger percentages of the profits be pampered and taken care of. This is not an issue of fairness, it is one of value, and if you can't comprehend the meaning of value, you probably shouldn't even play poker to begin with.


Note: The "douchin-esque" tone of my rebuttal may hurt your feelings, or make me seem insensitive, but it's the truth. Go ahead and keep on screaming injustice, as you would. In the meantime, I'm going to have some prime rib in the Diamond lounge. I can bring in a guest. Would you like to come? It's free....
Uh, thanks but no thanks. I've eaten in the Diamond lounge several times, with friends of mine who are suckers-enough to be members, and there's a reason it's free.

Other than that, the only thing I agree completely with you on, is that it does "behoove" the casino to kiss the asssses of Diamond and Seven-Star status. Why wouldn't they; they are the biggest suckers in the casino world, and I find it ironic that they seem to take some sort of pride in being so cherished, as if that's a good thing. If they knew how hard management was laughing on the inside, while patting them on the back on the outside, they might not be able to look at themselves in the mirror in the morning.

As far "riling us up" and "hurting our feelings," don't lose any sleep over it; you're not that good at either. Have a good one.
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02-14-2009 , 11:24 AM
so people actually play high stakes hu cash?

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02-14-2009 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by coconuts
Quite eloquent, Specs, Yooly might not appreciate you, but then he's not quite sophisticated as I am. Thank you very much for injecting a little culture into a thread that is oft-poisoned by the crassness of the classless. It's a refreshing change that benefits all of us. Sincerely, Coconuts.

(ROFLMFAO)!
Thank you coco!

and BTW

糖果=Candy


Your description of the Candy Bowl(when you run the room) is impressive, but if I were you I would reconsider because…….

1. The privileged high-limit players would think they deserved all the Fannie Mae and immediately confiscate all of it even if the bowl was just filled one minute ago.

2. Too many people would be on sugar highs!!!!!

You must have noticed how excited some people get when they win a hand - They jump, holler, high-five and make sure everyone in the room is aware that they won and usually its because they cracked someone’s aces. Woo hoo! Woohoo! Yes! Yes!

There was one like that in the high limit area the other day. I think it was Yooly?

I think I Nolykehim.

Now I'm off to the Shoe for some of the Valentine's Day Candy!!!!!

I too am ROTFL.

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02-14-2009 , 06:17 PM
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There was one like that in the high limit area the other day, jumping, hollering, high-fiving, and making sure everyone in the room is aware they won. I think it was Yooly?

I think I Nolykehim.
Nobodylykeyooly,ywoodthey?hethinkhetoogoodyforwe. oui?

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02-14-2009 , 08:26 PM
Blue bag man. How did you fare against the truck driver you challenged and took over to $2-$5 yesterday?
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02-14-2009 , 10:09 PM
lol.

Okay, so....if you all know that it is a matter of value, and you agree with me that the provisions for rewarding HL players make sense, why do you continue to argue and scream injustice? Counterpoint - I never said that Diamond+ players were "better" than anyone, I just said that they were more deserving, to which you agreed, regardless of whether the reasons for their "buying" perks make sense, or not..

Furthermore, why is it, that you all get to heckle with noble intent, but when I contradict the "manufactured majority" in this thread, I'm a douche. -Oh, I know, you DID take it personally, and I DID hurt your feelings. Name calling starts when hecklers get exposed.

Double standard, much?

Please proceed with your ad hominem replies, as opposed to discussing actual points of contention.
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02-15-2009 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by yoolykeme
lol.

Okay, so....if you all know that it is a matter of value, and you agree with me that the provisions for rewarding HL players make sense, why do you continue to argue and scream injustice? Counterpoint - I never said that Diamond+ players were "better" than anyone, I just said that they were more deserving, to which you agreed, regardless of whether the reasons for their "buying" perks make sense, or not..

Furthermore, why is it, that you all get to heckle with noble intent, but when I contradict the "manufactured majority" in this thread, I'm a douche. -Oh, I know, you DID take it personally, and I DID hurt your feelings. Name calling starts when hecklers get exposed.

Double standard, much?


Please proceed with your ad hominem replies, as opposed to discussing actual points of contention.
Your ok, were just having fun because there is not to much to discuss. You have your view and some have others, good luck
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02-15-2009 , 01:48 AM
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I see you're practicing your Chinese again, so I'll translate for you: The Candy Bowl Sucks! When I run the room, feel free to go to that bowl and help yourself to full-size Mars bars, Snickers, M&M,s Butterfingers, Payday, along with a variety of Truffles, Fanny Mae, and much, much more.

For those void of a sweet tooth, I'll have fresh White Castle cheeseburgers ....

How you likin' that candy bowl now, Specs?
Do you ever stop complaining? How 'bout STFU?

Thank You
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02-15-2009 , 03:11 AM
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Do you ever stop complaining?
If you don't already know the answer is "NO," you're not paying enough attention.
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How 'bout STFU?
Yes, you should, especially if this is all you have to offer us in this thread.

You can do so much better; all you have to do is wait ten or twelve years, when you reach your early 20's. I hope we hear again from you then.

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02-15-2009 , 03:26 AM
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Furthermore, why is it, that you all get to heckle with noble intent,
I'm not even sure what noble intent is; I just like to heckle.
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but when I contradict the "manufactured majority" in this thread, I'm a douche.
We don't call you a douche for contradicting; it's mostly because we don't know wtf you're talking about.
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Double standard, much?
Absolutely. When we decide you're "in," we'll let you know.
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Please proceed with your ad hominem replies, as opposed to discussing actual points of contention.
I think I just did. Have a good one.
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02-15-2009 , 01:27 PM
Bunch of little bitches on here lately.
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02-16-2009 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NDfan
Bunch of little bitches on here lately.
Amen, ND! Don't they just drive ya nuts!!
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02-16-2009 , 07:53 PM
Last Friday at the Shoe, I observed some "regular" state that: "that there are no good tables (1/2 NL), there are regulars at all of them." LOL, I play here twice a week, and I guess according to this tall, skinny/oafy pollack, regulars play there 5/6 times a week. Well I dont know about you all, but is anyone here impressed with the 1/2 regulars at this place, LOL. I mean if you cant find a "good" 1/2 table on a friday night, you probably arent all that good yourself. Worth mentioning this guy played like a typical LAG Donk and busted out at 1am and didnt have money to rebuy.

I used to get really annoyed with these morons, but I have finally learned to Love em.
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02-16-2009 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NDfan
according to this tall, skinny/oafy pollack
Im a tall, skinny/oafy pollack. Its wonderful!! You really should try it.
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02-16-2009 , 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike1111
Im a tall, skinny/oafy pollack. Its wonderful!! You really should try it.
Shut up stupid!
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02-16-2009 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mitchman
Jeremy,
what is the rake on the promotional dollar? By rake I mean "administration fee."
Jeremy,
Care to answer the question if you can.
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02-17-2009 , 03:33 PM
Jeremy?

I plan to try a few of your tournaments. I thought I might try to get in some hours toward the freeroll too. Can you tell me ..if that time playing in a tournament counts toward the hours needed in the freeroll. Do you swipe my card at the tourament table too?
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02-17-2009 , 05:04 PM
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Last Friday at the Shoe, I observed some "regular" state that: "that there are no good tables (1/2 NL), there are regulars at all of them." LOL, I play here twice a week, and I guess according to this tall, skinny/oafy pollack, regulars play there 5/6 times a week. Well I dont know about you all, but is anyone here impressed with the 1/2 regulars at this place, LOL. I mean if you cant find a "good" 1/2 table on a friday night, you probably arent all that good yourself. Worth mentioning this guy played like a typical LAG Donk and busted out at 1am and didnt have money to rebuy.
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I used to get really annoyed with these morons, but I have finally learned to Love em.
Yes, ND, I can understand you getting annoyed with morons; they just say the dumbest chit sometimes.
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02-17-2009 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Foldemed
Jeremy?

I plan to try a few of your tournaments. I thought I might try to get in some hours toward the freeroll too. Can you tell me ..if that time playing in a tournament counts toward the hours needed in the freeroll. Do you swipe my card at the tourament table too?
I'll answer for Jeremy: No, tourny hours are not logged or put towards the promos or comps.
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02-17-2009 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Foldemed
Jeremy?

I plan to try a few of your tournaments. I thought I might try to get in some hours toward the freeroll too. Can you tell me ..if that time playing in a tournament counts toward the hours needed in the freeroll. Do you swipe my card at the tourament table too?
I think I can answer this for J. Players cards are not swiped for tourneys. Obv. since you are not playing at a table that contributes to the bonus pool, your hours at a tourney wouldn't count toward any promos paid out from that pool. (this is the same reason your str8 flushes or royals aren't paid a bonus in tourneys).
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02-17-2009 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cybin
I think I can answer this for J. Players cards are not swiped for tourneys. Obv. since you are not playing at a table that contributes to the bonus pool, your hours at a tourney wouldn't count toward any promos paid out from that pool. (this is the same reason your str8 flushes or royals aren't paid a bonus in tourneys).
I was planning to play a high limit. I thought they didn't take any promotion money in high limit but this keeping track of hours was for everyone. High limit and low limit players alike.
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