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01-24-2013 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by -THEWETWET-
2 5 is fine with 100% I doubt any 2 5 reg wants the game capped (and I am not referring to you guys who are taking shots) ,I sure dont ,always nice to play deep if fish runs hot .we better get the money before they walk out of the poker room because the pit isnt worried about long term sustainability. 2 5 is drying up fast already not ever going to be much bigger games except for special occcasions or when organized which has nothing to do with 2 5 100%. Cap the 1 2 at 200 and force people who want to gamble bigger to move up and maybe we will see better than a 10 to 1 ratio on 1 2 to 2 5 games running. Would be gross if casio made 2 5 500 cap rake already sucks and ask any regs if they think there will be bigger games that end up running regularly, not a chance
So you're saying that we should keep the 100% rule at 2/5, skinning all of our fish (forgive the mixed metaphor) instead of sheering them over and over again, and the justification for doing this is that the pit will get them if we don't?

I think your argument makes a big assumption about poker fish being degen pit gamblers.

Take a long term look at your plan (over 1 year) and compare that to what you already know to be true: the casino has been open 3 months, and already in that time you've seen "2/5 is drying up fast" --- if you continue to kill the fish at the same rate, whom will you be playing against next year? 2/5 will be reduced to pro grinders, and at worst good recreational players with the very occasional fish. Not a game that you're going to want to play in, regardless of the uncapped-ness (sure it's a word) of the game.

I will say that putting a cap on the 1/2 game would be good for the 2/5 & higher games, b/c if you table select now you can play 1/2 with stacks over $1000 so there's not as much incentive for players to play at the higher limits.

Still, though, if you're being honest with yourself I think you'll agree that the 100% rule, while GREAT for the here & now, could be the reason that the poker room goes belly up down the road. I'm not saying I know for sure what the future holds (maybe the advent of tournaments will be a boon for the room, bringing in a whole slew of new players and will offset some of the concerns that the 100% rule brings to the long term sustainability of the room), but on a theoretical level, the 100% rule is bad for the room long-term.

Please don't take that as my personal preference -- I've enjoyed the deeper 2-5 games -- but I'm also concerned where the game will be long-term with that rule in place. My only bias comes from wanting a constant 2/5 game that is beatable, and if you take the fish out of the game, it becomes harder to beat. I'm not like you (I assume), where I'm depending on the room for my livelihood, so extracting every single dollar I can right now isn't my biggest concern.
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01-24-2013 , 11:06 AM
In other news, there were contractors in the room yesterday measuring for what appears to be the area they're putting the poker room cage, as well as measuring/discussing the area between the rail and table #4 for what I assume will be the extension to the room to allow them to get six more tables in the room.
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01-24-2013 , 11:11 AM
please use your bravo app and look at the games running in Charlestown West Virginia which has 1/8 the population and 4x the amount of 2/5 and 5/10 games running at any given time. they cap and it prolly has something to do with this.
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01-24-2013 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by plzd0nate
please use your bravo app and look at the games running in Charlestown West Virginia which has 1/8 the population and 4x the amount of 2/5 and 5/10 games running at any given time. they cap and it prolly has something to do with this.
Hmmm, perhaps there is a more logical explanation. 1/8th the population, you say?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimo...ropolitan_Area

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The population of the entire Baltimore-Washington Metroplex as of the 2010 Census is 8,924,087
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The population of the Columbus MSA is 1,836,536 according to the 2010 census estimates
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01-24-2013 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by plzd0nate
please use your bravo app and look at the games running in Charlestown West Virginia which has 1/8 the population and 4x the amount of 2/5 and 5/10 games running at any given time. they cap and it prolly has something to do with this.
I believe that Charlestown WV is(was? there might be a MD casino now) the closest casino to Baltimore/DC, so I don't think your theory is entirely correct -- not saying that it doesn't have anything to do with cap/uncap, but I think proximity to two larger cities is why Charlestown has a larger amount of 2/5+ games.
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01-24-2013 , 12:39 PM
so u think ppl on a daily basis drive 4-6 hours from that area to West Virginia to play poker. give me a break!!!! maybe some on the weekends
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01-24-2013 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by plzd0nate
so u think ppl on a daily basis drive 4-6 hours from that area to West Virginia to play poker. give me a break!!!! maybe some on the weekends

Charleston, WV is located in the southwestern part of the state and is several hours from those cities as you said. Charles Town, WV, where the casino you're talking about is, is in the extreme northeastern part of the state and is 60 miles from DC and 75 from Baltimore. Two completely different cities in completely different parts of the state.
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01-24-2013 , 12:52 PM
I feel dumb. sorry for the confusion.
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01-24-2013 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by plzd0nate
I feel dumb. sorry for the confusion.
It's ok, it's a common mistake.
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01-24-2013 , 02:33 PM
Capping 2/5 @ 1k is a LOT different than capping it at $500. Uncapped 2/5 pretty much ensures that 5/10 and 10/25 never run, and that the room will have 25+ 1/2 tables. Sigh.
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01-24-2013 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle
So you're saying that we should keep the 100% rule at 2/5, skinning all of our fish (forgive the mixed metaphor) instead of sheering them over and over again, and the justification for doing this is that the pit will get them if we don't?

I think your argument makes a big assumption about poker fish being degen pit gamblers.




Every big 2 5 reg fish I have played with is a pit degen also except one i can think of. I can name them if you want. There are not many of them running around why games are not being raved about and drying up.

Take a long term look at your plan (over 1 year) and compare that to what you already know to be true: the casino has been open 3 months, and already in that time you've seen "2/5 is drying up fast" --- if you continue to kill the fish at the same rate, whom will you be playing against next year? 2/5 will be reduced to pro grinders, and at worst good recreational players with the very occasional fish. Not a game that you're going to want to play in, regardless of the uncapped-ness (sure it's a word) of the game.




I would rather make a million in a year than in ten


I will say that putting a cap on the 1/2 game would be good for the 2/5 & higher games, b/c if you table select now you can play 1/2 with stacks over $1000 so there's not as much incentive for players to play at the higher limits.
i am all for this hell i say they get rid of 1 2 and 3 6 all together


Still, though, if you're being honest with yourself I think you'll agree that the 100% rule, while GREAT for the here & now, could be the reason that the poker room goes belly up down the road. I'm not saying I know for sure what the future holds (maybe the advent of tournaments will be a boon for the room, bringing in a whole slew of new players and will offset some of the concerns that the 100% rule brings to the long term sustainability of the room), but on a theoretical level, the 100% rule is bad for the room long-term.





ah the 1 2 games will always be there just like hollywood likes it .2 5 has already had most of the bad regs packing just not ever going to be much big action it seems . I hope the tournaments help

Please don't take that as my personal preference -- I've enjoyed the deeper 2-5 games -- but I'm also concerned where the game will be long-term with that rule in place. My only bias comes from wanting a constant 2/5 game that is beatable, and if you take the fish out of the game, it becomes harder to beat. I'm not like you (I assume), where I'm depending on the room for my livelihood, so extracting every single dollar I can right now isn't my biggest concern.



Not my livelihood I just try hard and would prefer bigger games. If 5 10 ran every day then cap 2 5 but 2 5 has been breaking some nights at 1. Bigger games just are not going to exist regularlly no matter what you change
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01-24-2013 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by donniccolo
Capping 2/5 @ 1k is a LOT different than capping it at $500. Uncapped 2/5 pretty much ensures that 5/10 and 10/25 never run, and that the room will have 25+ 1/2 tables. Sigh.
There is not going to be 5 10 or bigger in columbus unless its a special occasion or like last night when the must move want to stay so table bumped up to 5 10
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01-24-2013 , 08:15 PM
What about a 100% buy in rule with a 200BB max?
So the max for 1/2 is $400 and 2/5 is 1k
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01-24-2013 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by -THEWETWET-
There is not going to be 5 10 or bigger in columbus unless its a special occasion or like last night when the must move want to stay so table bumped up to 5 10
There was a 5/10 game running a couple of sunday nights ago and it was full. And this was not at table4. It was 31 way in back.
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01-24-2013 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Draidin
There was a 5/10 game running a couple of sunday nights ago and it was full. And this was not at table4. It was 31 way in back.
Lets get one again this sunday. Who is in?
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01-24-2013 , 09:22 PM
Ill play, what time could this start?
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01-25-2013 , 04:13 PM
Speaking of games that'd be great to see run, I've been pushing for any kind of non-standard games, aka 2-7TD, Badugi, Mixed games, etc. The Floor I spoke to about it was receptive, said if enough folks asked they'd run a plaque for a mix, and that the real issue was getting dealers up on the games. I say we pick a day/mix/buy in and which games would be good in a mix and push them for it (say 5/10 or 10/20, Thursdays, 2-7TD, Razz, Badugi, Badeucy, LO8 to start). Anyone else interested? I think the only way to get it going is to have a bunch of folks ask for it the exact same thing at the same times...
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01-25-2013 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by -THEWETWET-
Lets get one again this sunday. Who is in?
In. We should pick a night to play 5/10 every week and make sure it's known. Sunday is good, as is Thursday.
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01-25-2013 , 07:32 PM
@BradH What about 5-10 HORSE? I'd be in for that.
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01-25-2013 , 07:58 PM
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In. We should pick a night to play 5/10 every week and make sure it's known. Sunday is good, as is Thursday.
I can play nine out of every ten sundays

Going to mad river during day this sunday and straight to casino after
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01-25-2013 , 07:59 PM
I think that'd be a great start!

At least get a rotation going and as people get used to it we can add to it.

5/10 would be big enough that the 2/5 players might be interested (right?), the 1/2 guys can afford it, and could beat the rake.

Is there a day that you'd like Yurk? I'll make an ask for it when I'm in if other folks will too.
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01-25-2013 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BradH
I think that'd be a great start!

At least get a rotation going and as people get used to it we can add to it.

5/10 would be big enough that the 2/5 players might be interested (right?), the 1/2 guys can afford it, and could beat the rake.

Is there a day that you'd like Yurk? I'll make an ask for it when I'm in if other folks will too.
I'm usually there during the day on Saturday or Sunday.
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01-27-2013 , 06:04 PM
BBJ hit... Anyone know what game and what hands?!
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01-27-2013 , 06:56 PM
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BBJ hit... Anyone know what game and what hands?!
I just noticed this. I think I like how they increase the reserve percentage when the main gets to a certain point.
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01-27-2013 , 07:20 PM
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BBJ hit... Anyone know what game and what hands?!
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