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10-13-2009 , 04:00 PM
Oh ok. That makes a huge difference lol
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10-13-2009 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
1, 2, and 4 are advertised. Check out the website. 3 is the first I've heard of it, though you're really not supposed to be using your phone at the table anyway.

4 is the one that I think would almost always happen. If the board shows AAKK or JxJcTc9c someone is bound to say something, especially since it's only the lower stakes tables and thus more casual players. The first time this happens at my table I'm speaking right up and telling everyone to STFU from now on, explaining why.
# 4 would almost certainly result in at least one person thrown out for threatening or actual violence if someone says some innocuous comment like 'oooh, bbj potential' on the turn, there are 2 qualifying hands, and the dealer actually tells the floor about the comment and the floor disallows the jackpot. I've seen people go ballistic when they felt cheated out of a $50 pot, when you have two people being disallowed a huge sum of money on a technicality it's going to get really ugly.

I played 4-8 all day friday and there was a lot of talk about the BBJ, I for one did not know about rule 4 and I'm sure I was not the only one. IMO there is virtually no chance of there being a BBJ potential board and all 10 players knowing everyone has to refrain from commenting. They should have an announcement over the loudspeaker every hour or so.
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10-13-2009 , 04:47 PM
jackpots are always used to try to get people to comply with the card room rules. I played at one awful place where they told us theat the jp wouldn't be paid if there was a rack on the table. never found out if they would follow through with that.

EDIT: Every table starts whispering when there's a potential jp on the board. I doubt Woods would not pay unless there was blatant collusion articulated between the players in the hand.
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10-13-2009 , 05:00 PM
To clarify, I think the dealer meant people can't say stuff such as:

"oh I have a royal draw, if you have quads right now you should check and lets see if I can hit..."

I think saying things such as "oh it's a bbj potential board" is allowed

but keep in mind I don't know for sure, it would be best to check with a floor person next time your there.
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10-13-2009 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by o0ch

I think saying things such as "oh it's a bbj potential board" is allowed

i highly doubt this can be said.

Last edited by Rapini; 10-13-2009 at 05:55 PM.
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10-13-2009 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer

Are you actually seeing the play worsen? I haven't played yet this month.
Yes, there are people now playing any suited connectors and gappers, you can spot them pretty easy and either punish them on the flop to chase the runner runner SF or suck them into tough river decisions with a pair.
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10-13-2009 , 08:18 PM
I am sure this belongs in the brag section, but I took 4th in the columbus day $400 yesterday. Not sure if any other 2 2 players were there or not. Lost a 650K pot with 11 players left. Had 17K in chips with blinds at 12K and 24K 4K ante. Rallied back and we chip chopped with 5 players left. Got 8500 which will help with wpt and the ms fall series coming up .
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10-13-2009 , 09:29 PM
Anyone going thursday done for a 2+2 meetup?I'll def be there also for the shootout and prolly a few more tourneys
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10-13-2009 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by o0ch
A few more tidbits about the BBJ which are not advertised (dealer told me about this the other night)

1. Must have 20$+ in the pot (b/c 1$ isnt taken out unless the pot reaches 20$+.

2. Must have 4 or more players see a flop.

3. If anyone is using a cell phone at the table during the bbj hand then the bbj will not be paid out.

4. No talking about the bbj while the bbj hand takes place...

I swear it's as if they don't want to pay it out... even tho it's all players money!
2. Is f'ing ridiculous. Especially because the kinds of hands that would qualify for a bb jackpot (pocket 8's or better) almost always raise and reraise preflop. Only a total donkfest table will be able to hit this.

Edit: nevermind, i see its 4 people in a hand, much better.

FWIW If i remember correctly, when party had an 8's or better bbjpot, it got up to 700k once before it was hit.

Last edited by fxwacgesvrhdtf; 10-13-2009 at 10:10 PM.
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10-13-2009 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
2. Is f'ing ridiculous. Especially because the kinds of hands that would qualify for a bb jackpot (pocket 8's or better) almost always raise and reraise preflop. Only a total donkfest table will be able to hit this.
It's 4 players dealt a hand, not see a flop.
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10-13-2009 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CTFIRE
I am sure this belongs in the brag section, but I took 4th in the columbus day $400 yesterday. Not sure if any other 2 2 players were there or not. Lost a 650K pot with 11 players left. Had 17K in chips with blinds at 12K and 24K 4K ante. Rallied back and we chip chopped with 5 players left. Got 8500 which will help with wpt and the ms fall series coming up .
Congrats! See you at WPF
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10-14-2009 , 10:57 AM
http://www.foxwoods.com/badbeat.aspx


i think it almost makes it worth it to play 1/2 at mohegan now, esp since i hear there giving $2 an hour
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10-14-2009 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by stueycal
http://www.foxwoods.com/badbeat.aspx


i think it almost makes it worth it to play 1/2 at mohegan now, esp since i hear there giving $2 an hour
u can't beat $2 an hour for 1-2 the problem with fw is there running a promotion that they don't want to be won... Come on quad 8s beaten that's over the top

Now when that does get hit it's gonna be like going through customs to get the money there going to interragate the dealers to make sure nobody was talking check cameras to make sure nobody had cell phones while in the hand

It's bad enough it's impossible to hit it the stars have to alline for no violations to the rules to take place... Can u wear a hat or sunglasses or is longsleeve shirts permitted??????
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10-14-2009 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cubby33
u can't beat $2 an hour for 1-2 the problem with fw is there running a promotion that they don't want to be won... Come on quad 8s beaten that's over the top

Now when that does get hit it's gonna be like going through customs to get the money there going to interragate the dealers to make sure nobody was talking check cameras to make sure nobody had cell phones while in the hand

It's bad enough it's impossible to hit it the stars have to alline for no violations to the rules to take place... Can u wear a hat or sunglasses or is longsleeve shirts permitted??????
what? FW is giving 1.5 per hour for 1/2 or 3 if you have a black card. You can't prove they would deny the jp for little things and they probably wouldn't, it's the players money anyway. People will call pf a lot more liberally ifthe jp gets big and the room will be packed.
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10-14-2009 , 03:55 PM
DMW that guy is obv just a chill (sp?) for Mohegan Sun I wouldn't take anything he says too seriously.
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10-14-2009 , 04:52 PM
[QUOTE=monkeymaps;13804630]DMW that guy is obv just a chill (sp?) for Mohegan Sun I wouldn't take anything he says too seriously.[/QUOTE

I play at fw 30 hours a week everytime I go there I constantly try and get an 8-16 game going..everybody here thinks they no everything so if u disagree with the bbj or the or anything else that's subject to being called a schill???

I'm not saying I don't like fw I'm just not in agreement with some of the rules/décor of the room that's it...

If I had a say why wouldn't they try to put the 8-16 game out in the main room to get more people to see the game
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10-14-2009 , 05:17 PM
I do not understand the play at 1/2 NL @ foxwoods sometimes.

Went last night, started off playing some blackjack.. made about 150 in 2 hours.... went to the buffet and then played 1/2.

I sat with 300, cause I always have to have the max with my ultra-aggressive style.... was +75 from hitting a flush against a fish and then this hand happens:

I pick up AK in the CO... person in UG+1 raises to 15 (no reads... been at the seat for about 7 hands... have seen him raise PF once to 30 with no callers), i re-raise to 50.... SB pushes for about 75 more.... then UG+1 pushes to 280. So its an obvious fold to me... I only invested 50 with AK and put UG+1 on a monster if hes pushing after the SB all in.

So the flop comes K 10 x x x. SB shows either AJ or AQ.... UG+1 shows...... q8??!?!?!?!?! wtf???? why?

I understand that 1/2 is full of fish so he may not have have had a damn clue what he was doing, but this isnt a tournament. This is one of the problems with playing live poker.. no clue if the guy is a solid regular or a bored fish.

I was so aggravated with his play, and lack of explanation for it that I tilted away about 200 more and then left the table in disgust. There's no reason for such ****ty play, especially since this guy had no read on me since he just sat down.

okay... done venting.
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10-14-2009 , 05:43 PM
[QUOTE=cubby33;13806110]
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Originally Posted by monkeymaps
DMW that guy is obv just a chill (sp?) for Mohegan Sun I wouldn't take anything he says too seriously.[/QUOTE

I play at fw 30 hours a week everytime I go there I constantly try and get an 8-16 game going..everybody here thinks they no everything so if u disagree with the bbj or the or anything else that's subject to being called a schill???

I'm not saying I don't like fw I'm just not in agreement with some of the rules/décor of the room that's it...

If I had a say why wouldn't they try to put the 8-16 game out in the main room to get more people to see the game
okay. But when you trash one and praise the other without giving a real reason it does sound like you were shilling. At least tell the MS to pay you.
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10-14-2009 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL
I do not understand the play at 1/2, 2/5, 5/10 NL @ foxwoods sometimes.

I understand that 1/2, 2/5, 5/10 is full of fish so he may not have have had a damn clue what he was doing, but this isnt a tournament.
fyp.
really. it's like that.
try the bigger games and watch the insane **** fly. then listen to their "logic", after the 4 outer hits. absorb the apologetic cackling, the rudeness, the sheer hatred of money, then dust off and make some money.

i love FW for this reason. but it does make me fear for the gene pool. (and i'm no shark by any means)
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10-14-2009 , 09:09 PM
Would this be an accurate statement.. When u play limit in games of 4-8 or higher is it safe to say that almost every time u play ur playing against a full table of people that may not be the greatest players but they all have at least a little clue as to what's going on

Now when u sit at a 1-2 table u are able to play against people that really have no clue about poker in the least who are just there to"give poker a shot"?

The 1-2 on a Saturday nite can have the same skill level as a drunk filled 2-4.. The1-2 may be a fish pond but with people being so clueless it actually poses a threat

It may sound stupid but I think some of the best players in the casino can be found at a 4-8 table

So next time ur playing on a sat nite take notice of how if your playing I guess in the archway or the area where the podium is it's prob the least knowledgable crowd but it's reckless u just can't read people that easily
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10-14-2009 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cubby33
Would this be an accurate statement.. When u play limit in games of 4-8 or higher is it safe to say that almost every time u play ur playing against a full table of people that may not be the greatest players but they all have at least a little clue as to what's going on

Now when u sit at a 1-2 table u are able to play against people that really have no clue about poker in the least who are just there to"give poker a shot"?

The 1-2 on a Saturday nite can have the same skill level as a drunk filled 2-4.. The1-2 may be a fish pond but with people being so clueless it actually poses a threat

It may sound stupid but I think some of the best players in the casino can be found at a 4-8 table

So next time ur playing on a sat nite take notice of how if your playing I guess in the archway or the area where the podium is it's prob the least knowledgable crowd but it's reckless u just can't read people that easily
I would group the 5/10 LHE game, when its going, in there too.
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10-14-2009 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianL
I was so aggravated with his play, and lack of explanation for it that I tilted away about 200 more and then left the table in disgust. There's no reason for such ****ty play, especially since this guy had no read on me since he just sat down.
Give some thought to this. When you tilted off the rest of your money, who was the fish?
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10-14-2009 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyBoy5885
I would group the 5/10 LHE game, when its going, in there too.
Ummmm I guess there's some 5-10 players that that are strong but I kind of get the impressions some times that the 5-10 crowd can be a little old school with some rocks in between...

The whole 1 chip 2chip thing kind of makes it boring
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10-14-2009 , 10:20 PM
Yes, the new players who just want to try it go to 1/2 now. They stopped going to limit in 2007
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10-14-2009 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Give some thought to this. When you tilted off the rest of your money, who was the fish?
Well put.
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