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10-24-2012 , 04:28 PM
2 sepetate floor men agreed on it
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10-24-2012 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
2 sepetate floor men agreed on it
Awful. I suppose they're applying the rule that since there was no betting on the river, order of showdown starts at SB. But that doesn't apply here since it was an all-in. Awful.

FishFry can confirm what the correct ruling should be.
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10-24-2012 , 04:53 PM
The player who makes the last aggressive action has to show first, is that not the standard rule?
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10-24-2012 , 04:58 PM
If the river goes check check it goes by order of BTN
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10-24-2012 , 05:01 PM
Social Jester: not at the woods. not always at least, this is one of those situations different floors will rule it differently. Most consider the last agressive action on the last street. AKA here would be SB since no action.

If this wasn't an AI, but MP bets on turn and SB calls, no action on river, SB shows first at FW no question. The AI makes it a little weird but you want rulings to be consistent right?
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10-24-2012 , 05:33 PM
Middle position supposed to show first. His/hers all in was called preflop. I bet it could have possibly been a table games dealer and that dealer could have had a hard time explaining it to a floor person.
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10-24-2012 , 05:35 PM
In tournaments I've had the non all ins ruled both way last 2 weeks
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10-24-2012 , 05:35 PM
It was not a table games dealer. The player explained it to a floor person when controversy started. 5mins late I went and asked another guy and he reaffirmed the first ruling.

Nothing was lost in translation and noone was misinformed.
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10-24-2012 , 06:14 PM
Foxwoods also overrun with Mohegan sun regs right now.
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10-24-2012 , 06:37 PM
calendar says that fw will be running a 230 NL tourney on Saturday at 6pm. This tourney is not a poker finals tourney, correct? are they definitely going to have it? what can I expect for number of entrants? should be pretty abundant due to the poker finals being there, right?

thanks in advance for the answers
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10-24-2012 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
Foxwoods also overrun with Mohegan sun regs right now.
True. Noticed the 2 tables of MSUN 2/5 regs now plying their trade at the woods like nobody has seen them before..
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10-24-2012 , 06:56 PM
This room is freezing right now. I never complain about it being cold, I'm always hot and this room is an icebox
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10-24-2012 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
Just witnessed a ruling that made me scratch my head and haven't seen this ruled this way before.

HU pot on flop. Sb checks, guy in middle position goes all in and sb calls.

At the river SB has to show first?? What?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...first-1259685/
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10-24-2012 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWalk
calendar says that fw will be running a 230 NL tourney on Saturday at 6pm. This tourney is not a poker finals tourney, correct? are they definitely going to have it? what can I expect for number of entrants? should be pretty abundant due to the poker finals being there, right?

thanks in advance for the answers
yeah saturday nights during tournament series' always draw big fields in the dailys. theres a satty going at 7:30 so there might be a lot of action in the first couple hours of the 6pm if people are looking to double up fast or bust and enter the satellite. maybe
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10-24-2012 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ngrund
This is not the same scenario -

Player was all in on the flop and the floor ruled the guy who made the call has to show first because he's in a worse position.

The person who calls an all in has to show first apparently.
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10-24-2012 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ngrund
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
This is not the same scenario -

Player was all in on the flop and the floor ruled the guy who made the call has to show first because he's in a worse position.

The person who calls an all in has to show first apparently.
That thread is also a general scenario, and people with experiences from different card rooms with different house rules are chiming in. This is a Foxwoods specific scenario, so only Foxwoods rules matter.
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10-24-2012 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
That thread is also a general scenario, and people with experiences from different card rooms with different house rules are chiming in. This is a Foxwoods specific scenario, so only Foxwoods rules matter.
Do you work for Foxwoods ?
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10-24-2012 , 08:55 PM
no why?
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10-24-2012 , 09:59 PM
You answer every question about Foxwoods and seem to know alot about it. You even seem to defend them. Do you go there alot or something ?
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10-24-2012 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RobFarha
This is not the same scenario -

Player was all in on the flop and the floor ruled the guy who made the call has to show first because he's in a worse position.

The person who calls an all in has to show first apparently.
At Foxwoods is goes back to last action. If there is no betting on river is revert back to the street where there was action.

Most other places, if there is no action on the river, the order to show is around from the small blind to the button.
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10-24-2012 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyrulesall
You answer every question about Foxwoods and seem to know alot about it. You even seem to defend them. Do you go there alot or something ?
I have a high tier card, am there every weekend, and yeah I do know a lot about how things work there, so I try to help out in the thread wherever I can. I don't necessarily defend them, but since complaints on here are usually one-sided (understandably), I'll often try to address the situation from the other perspective, to maybe help get the person to understand why something may be the way it is (for anything in general, playing devil's advocate is a good way to do that). So it might just seem like I take their side on everything, but I don't... I have my own complaints, believe me.

Last edited by Lattimer; 10-24-2012 at 10:33 PM.
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10-24-2012 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by gotf
At Foxwoods is goes back to last action. If there is no betting on river is revert back to the street where there was action.

Most other places, if there is no action on the river, the order to show is around from the small blind to the button.
This is not true
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10-24-2012 , 11:28 PM
So, a floor confirmed today that 2/5 will soon be part of the BBJ. I do not know any of the details but he said that it was a definite
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10-24-2012 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
For Royals and Aces:
free

For Kings:
MGM - $49 Sun-Thu, $100 and $125 Fri-Sat
Pequot - $69 and $79 Sun-Thu
Two Trees - $40 Sun-Thu, $50 Fri-Sat

For Crowns and Wilds:
???

You can book the suite directly online when you use your free room offer, you don't have to wait until check-in to attempt an upgrade. Cedar suites and weekend Pequot suites cannot be booked online, so I don't know what those may cost. Also there will be tax but no resort fee.

edit: If any Crowns or Wilds could fill in the blanks that'd be great. Just go online and select your free room offer (if you have one LDO) and mention what it's charging for suites.
Thanks, I did not notice that I could do it when I booked originally, perhaps since i booked Sunday and Monday, suites were less available on Sunday and did not show up.
However, I am a Wild and just tried it online for the week i was not planning on going and got $49 mgm suite, but no Pequot online. I will try calling in one of these days, i am planning on going down with a large group one day and will see what I can do with that. I'll update this thread if I get any new info for other wilds.
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10-24-2012 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
Awful. I suppose they're applying the rule that since there was no betting on the river, order of showdown starts at SB. But that doesn't apply here since it was an all-in. Awful.

FishFry can confirm what the correct ruling should be.
This rule has been enforced at Foxwoods for quite some time. The awful part is it going to a floor ruling. The floor does not need to be called for a rule that will not change the winner of the hand, or at the very least affect action of the hand. Either player should have been comfortable showing complete air and adjusting their percieved image afterwards. Delaying play at the table for this is pathetic. There are too many sherrifs at the tables at Foxwoods. I swear some would enforce which bathroom you can use based on seat location.
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