PPL are saying it's the 'stomach flu' going around. I've had it and it's not fun but I ate there today and no prob so far. Let's face it: If you play live you will be exposed to everything that's making the rounds.

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New promo up:

$100K BBJ for quad Jacks beaten, I assume both cards have to play. Will stay at $100K but, if not hit w/i 2 weeks they are going to start lowering the qualifier (quad 10's, 9's, etc) until hit.

I'd say it's 50-50 whether it was food borne or stomach virus. I also had blackened chicken. Samonella is not just from undercooked meat - could also be unsanitary situation in kitchen. If everyone is reporting getting it Saturday, and no one Sunday or Monday, than it seems more likely to be food related. If it's still going around, perhaps it's not. All I will say is that three hours after I left Sunday at 2am, I was in the most pain I have ever been in for almost 24 hours. For the person that went to the doctor today, make sure to report your illness to TS poker food manager. They got back to me today. Send me a message for details.

How can that be? Aren't you not playing there for awhile? Oh, you went just to get something to eat, right?

Seems less like to be a virus. Don't they take longer than 3 hours to incubate?

I said that symptoms kicked in three hours after I left, not ate. I played 13-14 hours and ate my two meals well before midnight. Incubation can very well be fast, but I doubt three hours.

For the person that went to the doctor today, make sure to report your illness to TS poker food manager.

"At this point, what difference does it make?" I'm still voting noroviris since people got sick on 2-3 different days but, why the need to report it? Food and beverage is already aware of the rash of illness per mgr. I will report if someone can tell me why this is something other than whining.

It could be the norovirus but still related to the food service. I read about it online and it said a common way it is spread is through food preparation. If one of the cooks had it, it could have been spread to people served over a few days.

Feeling bad for my sick fromer poker buddies and acquaintances, hope everyone is better soon. I had something a few weeks ago which seemed similar to the symptoms I read about online. Really only was bad for about 24 hours, but it was so terrible I felt weak for a few days after.

Where did the 2-3 day range come from? I have only heard of people that played Saturday experiencing issues. The other poster is correct - it could be more than just undercooked food etc - other unsanitary kitchen conditions could cause it (such as employees not washing hands). I only felt the brunt of it for 24 hours but was still pretty sick for 72 total. Only eating normal again today, but it was a brutal strain whatever it was.

Was playing 2-3 cash this afternoon when a fight broke out at one the high stakes table. One of the players was a regular (not sure of his name) and i didn't recognize the other guy. Luckily, the floor was able to break it up before any punches were landed but it was loud and ugly. Security was called and one of the combatants (the player i didn't recognize) was escorted out. Was anyone playing at that table who can relate what happened?

Can we remove identifying information from these posts?

Guess I picked the right time to go on vacation! Is there any added jackpot for Omaha or is the super BBJ only hold 'em?

The 8-16 0/8 is nearly dead due to the 20-40. Big BBJ is for HE.

How does the super jackpot work? Is more taken out for it?

Also I haven't played in about 2-3 months or so here and I went back wed/thursday to play some 3/5. It's unreal how nitty some of the tables could be. I literally opened 6 pots in a row and not a single caller, and there were probably 10 walks in an hour. Yesterday was better though.

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Drop has not increased. Quad Jacks beaten to win it. Last time they had one of these (quad Jacks, turned out to be both ends of a str8 flush) it took a month. This time if it's not hit w/i 2 weeks the qualifier will be lowered (quad 10's, quad 9's, etc) until it's hit. IDK if it'll be 2 weeks each or not.

Sometimes I play 2/3 and it's like those old jokes: 'It's like sitting in the diner watching the rice pudding turn bad.' IDK how you folks can stand it.

While we are talking spread limit a new sign popped up a few days ago that says that in the spread games, for 'player protection', chips have to be put into the pot. No more saying 'call' or 'all-in.' They must've had a few problems.

Does this pay just a table share, or the whole room?

They've been having problems for years, but they finally have someone that's doing something about it.

Just the table as per the usual bad beat rules.

There's a scumbag who's been playing 2/3 almost daily on the swing/graveyard shifts...I lent him $2,000 in Oct. 2012 and he disappeared for 18 months until this past week where he was spotted and is denying everything and won't pay me. Had several witnesses there that approached him and he was being a degenerate about it. I wish i could just grab his chips from the table next time i see him.

Guy is a pathological liar who cons and scams people. I happened to be a foolish, gullible victim of his. If he won't pay up, I just hope everyone in the room knows him for who he is and makes his life a living hell.

Yeah, lending money is usually a recipe for failure unless you know the person pretty well and can trust them. Best case you get paid next time you see them. Other times you ask them about it and they make it seem like they are doing you a favor by repaying you. And worse case is what happened to you, doubtful to ever get your money back.

Lolz, and why oh why did you lend a degen $2000???? Like $200-$300 wasn't enough. I feel your pain but honestly don't feel bad for you.

CAZ is now where kill pots are always wrong, as that horrible $300 rule for 20 OE game now is confusing dealers in other games into either not putting out kill or mistakenly putting it out.

The rule was put in place to appease nits, who think the OE game is too big. But it's been the most successful new game the room has introduced in many years and is still super strong, no thanks to the nits, who mostly try to suck out action & enjoyment from the game as much as possible.

Not listening to them would have been smartest move by far but if you have to appease them why not implement a rule that won't lead to so many dealer mistakes? Some easy to implement rules to make the 20 OE smaller include

a) take the kill out if game isn't at least 7 handed, or

b) take kill out entirely, it slows the game and is a tool for angle shooters abusing string raise rule.

But custom kill pot sizes is just misery, every game I've been in this week has been slown down or just plain mis dealt because of it.

Player: Why didn't he post a kill?
Dealer: Not enough, only 10 bets. Omaha pots need 15 bets
table: No, not in 40 Mix, thats only in OE.
Dealer: oh , yea

20 Holdem Player: Why didn't he post kill?
Dealer: Same conversation

Best would've been to get rid of the kill. But it's not nitty to say that $200 is just too small to make a kill pot in a 20-40 game. There were simply too many kill pots that made strategy adjustments necessary thus basically changing the game itself.

I knew a nit would weigh in

In a few weeks the game went from nowhere to the most popular high limit game, nearly most popular game in room (it's not far from 2-3/4-8). OE consistently has more games running than 20 Holdem, which has been the high limit mainstay and until the OE started had been as popular as ever with up to four games at once going. Now OE consistently runs 2-4 games and 20 Holdem down to 1 or 2 games.

So the first order of business should have been don't mess with success. Omaha/Stud8 and other split pot games have always used the same kill requirement, whether 8-16 (which is a double kill IIRC), 20/40, 40/80, 75/150 and it hasn't been a problem. I play split pot all day long, Baducey/Badacey/any any/8 or better triple draw/etc, obviously 6 handed or less, and no one complains. We always take kill out 4 handed so every pot isn't a kill, that's really the only adjustment needed in game rules.

Of course kills require minor strategy adjustments, but all poker rules do. The nits are mediocre rocks who ran well enough at softer 8-16 games to think they are gods gift to OE. They simply don't play well, getting exposed in the 20 OE, and blaming their losing on the size of the game and kill structure, even though the 8-16 had a more extreme kill structure.

They should go back to the 8-16, as a super healthy game should not customized in a ******ed way to appease those trying leech the life out of it.

Is the kill in the 8/16 Omaha only 10 small bets as well ($80)? It sure didn't seem as commonly hit there as in the 20/40.

Actually, I'm opposed to kill games altogether but I have to live w/ them. Being able to make adjustments is a skill so that part's not so bad but $200 was resulting in far too many kill pots. In O/8 it's not all that bad but in Stud/8 it's an abomination for those many times where a face card is first to act. They could've tried adjusting the way the kill plays in Stud/8 but they went w/ the easier solution, I suppose.