during wsop time, and in the poker room, you pretty much can. if you know someone playing higher, stand around them for 5 min, and walk to the poker room cage and it'll take 7 seconds, tops.

Couldn't you just walk up to a crowded/rowdy craps table, break it up for 10 500s, then just walk away without ever betting?

Better yet, put it all on thep ass line with max odds and walk away a millionaire imo

bet them equally on black & red on roulette and watch the 0 come up for lifeending tilt

Why would you gaurantee yourself a 0% chance of making ap rofit? That is the most retarted statement I have ever read. Sorry sir.

i think i understand why a random just cant go up to the cage and just cash a lonely flag...but under what circustances CAN you cash one? do you need several or...? seems silly idk. what if i were playing BJ and the dealer were to 'color me up' by giving me a flag? does this happen? sorry, i dont know much about how it works there

You need proof that you're a high limit player.

A cashier at the table will not break it down for you either.

Why would you gaurantee yourself a 0% chance of making ap rofit? That is the most retarted statement I have ever read. Sorry sir.

a bellagio flag? i'll buy it if it helps you out, but it's pretty easy to cash at the poker cage.

red is for fish, 5k on black ldo


if I sat @ 25/50 for a hour or two they'd let me cash whatever, right?

I've never had problems cashing flags at cashier. I thought that the restrictions on cashing out only applied to 25K cranberries.

can you guys talk about the hand on PAD involving raptor/doyle because it's a pretty intresting hand that every SSNL/MSNL player have commented on it. I thought it would bring up good discussion before raptor gives his views on it tommorow in his blog.

http://pokertube.com/Movies.aspx?mov..._Cash_Game_3_4

doyle made a bad read and was sure he had the best hand. raptor knew doyle thought he had the best hand. there's 1 hand doyle can be raising for value that raptor beats and he may not even raise that hand every time, and its a very bizarre spot for doyle to be bluffing.

this, I like David's fold

So I was playing 10/20 yesterday at commerce and got OWNED.two fish limp to me and I raise to 180 with AA. Both call, player Utg has 10k stack, I have him covered. Flop is 10 8d 2d check to me I bet 400, both call. Turn is 3x Utg donks for 600, other guy calls, I make it 2000. Utg thinks, counts out his chips and makes it 4000. I tank snd ask if he will show, he says yes. I fold and he shows me 66

@stinger/lapoker

what range of hands do you put doyle on, in dave's spot on the river though?

does hands like KJ/K8/6x's that chop are part of doyles range which raises the river?

stuff that beats us?



also wow that intro they play before PAD may be the dumbest thing ive ever seen.

added the second question for this reason

i guess answering my own question is "no" then

that's poker

On the river, there are 3 KK, 3 88, 3 86 that beat us. There are 9 KJo we beat.

Assuming Doyle raises the river half of the time with KJ (4.5), we are good 33% of the time against his river range. The Dino was risking 40k to win 128k (so 3 to 1) so calling is profitable.

If assuming Doyle raising half of his KJ is too optimistic, we can lower his frequency to 1/3rd of the time and our call is break-even.

There were a few more factors that lead this into a call during this particular session. The Dino is an internet player and cannot fold KQ/AK (see his KQ call vs Gabe on a Q6543 board when the 72 bounty is on. What can he beat besides a rando hand; Gabe had a rando hand. Doyle must've seen this). Doyle was caught bluffing Cole on a paired river and showed when he could've mucked. Now, there's more incentive for Doyle to use the, "they saw me bluffed big earlier, I'm going to get paid off on this hand." There was also a hand where he c/r Taylor huge on a paired flop. With these factors and Doyle thinking he had been raising aggressively, Doyle is more likely to raise KJ on the river than not.

DISCLAIMER: If my math is wrong, then FML.

his statement was a joke, yours isn't. and your statement isnt smart either, like it's worse to do what he said than to put it all on black or something.

your analysis here is ok but you didn't include the chance that doyle has: A6s (a hand he'd usually play like this) or any other 6 (a hand raptor splits with, which completely changes the probability that doyle has KJ. doyle having a 6 helps raptor etc). Also i'd be surprised if doyle mucked K6s on the button v cutoff. the hands raptor splits with are probably 36s 46s 56s 67s 69s. i think doyle probably mucks the 6Ts pre. i can't be bothered doing the math here since it's pretty boring spot but i like daves fold as well. doyle could even have kings or jacks hoping one of the crazy cardrunners morons squeezes the 27 in the blind.

also doyle is more likely to rr preflop w/ KJo than 56s which changes things as well. maybe this is not true.

Ok who is in la and not playing/already busted from the ME. Trying to get people together for dinner/bar/club

that's poker folks
-Doyle Brunson