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04-14-2011 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by spectralradius
while i agree with most of your posts, P!=(=?) NP is not something on which practical cryptography algorithms are based on, its more of a pure math kind of thing ..
it has little to do with practical cryptography today, but it has tremendous theoretical implications for classical (maybe not quantum) cryptography.
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04-14-2011 , 03:09 PM
First off, congrats Vanessa on the ship.

But, did anyone else watch her play on HSP and think she absolutely sucked? I should preface by saying I haven't watched her play much other than this, but rarely have I seen anyone look so uncomfortable/paranoid at the table, and I could come up with a ton of different plays that i thought were just mindblowingly bad... (e.g. stacking off to the fish for many many bb with overpair, taking forever to call (slowroll?) Doyle's shove over cbet when she flopped second nuts in 3 bet pot, etc). Really not trying to come off as a huge hater, but just curious why so many people think she's the nuts.
04-14-2011 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Rivers
it has little to do with practical cryptography today, but it has tremendous theoretical implications for classical (maybe not quantum) cryptography.
my vote is with number theory rather than complexity when it comes to cryptography
04-14-2011 , 03:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spectralradius
while i agree with most of your posts, P!=(=?) NP is not something on which practical cryptography algorithms are based on, its more of a pure math kind of thing .
P versus NP isn't the perfect way to represent the problem practically. (If something's run time is O(n^100), for example, that's in P, but it ain't fast.) But, it is damn helpful. If someone finds a way to solve any NP-complete problem quickly, then almost all public key cryptography will be instacracked.

A big part of the reason for the slightly strange definition of P vs. NP is because it allows for a lot of theoretical work.
04-14-2011 , 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ooooooooooh
First off, congrats Vanessa on the ship.

But, did anyone else watch her play on HSP and think she absolutely sucked? I should preface by saying I haven't watched her play much other than this, but rarely have I seen anyone look so uncomfortable/paranoid at the table, and I could come up with a ton of different plays that i thought were just mindblowingly bad... (e.g. stacking off to the fish for many many bb with overpair, taking forever to call (slowroll?) Doyle's shove over cbet when she flopped second nuts in 3 bet pot, etc). Really not trying to come off as a huge hater, but just curious why so many people think she's the nuts.
There was some discussion about that overpair hand in the march thread I think.
04-14-2011 , 07:14 PM
Admo, your post would have gotten a lot more I love I believe if you had included this (your link isn't working but I would be surprised if it were the same photo)

Check this out ladies and gentleman, an apple rose:



I would feel guilt eating this

No Reservations El Bulli Album (not too many photos):
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04-14-2011 , 10:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ooooooooooh
First off, congrats Vanessa on the ship.

But, did anyone else watch her play on HSP and think she absolutely sucked? I should preface by saying I haven't watched her play much other than this, but rarely have I seen anyone look so uncomfortable/paranoid at the table, and I could come up with a ton of different plays that i thought were just mindblowingly bad... (e.g. stacking off to the fish for many many bb with overpair, taking forever to call (slowroll?) Doyle's shove over cbet when she flopped second nuts in 3 bet pot, etc). Really not trying to come off as a huge hater, but just curious why so many people think she's the nuts.
Everybody makes mistakes/has bad sessions, that doesn't change the fact she's still insanely talented.
04-15-2011 , 01:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ooooooooooh
First off, congrats Vanessa on the ship.

But, did anyone else watch her play on HSP and think she absolutely sucked? I should preface by saying I haven't watched her play much other than this, but rarely have I seen anyone look so uncomfortable/paranoid at the table, and I could come up with a ton of different plays that i thought were just mindblowingly bad... (e.g. stacking off to the fish for many many bb with overpair, taking forever to call (slowroll?) Doyle's shove over cbet when she flopped second nuts in 3 bet pot, etc). Really not trying to come off as a huge hater, but just curious why so many people think she's the nuts.
Geeez I mean shes not the gift of god or anything but shes pretty damn good.
04-15-2011 , 02:07 AM
wtf is wrong with nutsinho? i mean seriously, the guy is such a clown. He sits with me on ftp at 50/100, i say no ty i have action on party, he just keeps sitting there for a while. I ask him to leave, he starts being weird for a while then says that the rules should be different and i should leave because he wants to play and i don't. Sure w/e, you think the rules should be different, they're not, i've just told you i have action, i don't want to discuss how you think the rules should be different while you refuse to leave my table, I'm trying to concentrate. Normally i'd just let the guy have the table and bang his tiny penis around, feel like a big man for a while but he was just so damn obnoxious. Wtf is wrong with him? I always try to treat ppl with respect at the tables and not be a pain in the ass for no good reason, i don't understand why he feels the need to do differently. /rant
04-15-2011 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Kanu
wtf is wrong with nutsinho? i mean seriously, the guy is such a clown. He sits with me on ftp at 50/100, i say no ty i have action on party, he just keeps sitting there for a while. I ask him to leave, he starts being weird for a while then says that the rules should be different and i should leave because he wants to play and i don't. Sure w/e, you think the rules should be different, they're not, i've just told you i have action, i don't want to discuss how you think the rules should be different while you refuse to leave my table, I'm trying to concentrate. Normally i'd just let the guy have the table and bang his tiny penis around, feel like a big man for a while but he was just so damn obnoxious. Wtf is wrong with him? I always try to treat ppl with respect at the tables and not be a pain in the ass for no good reason, i don't understand why he feels the need to do differently. /rant
if you already had action why would you care where you sit, why ot get up? you want some thing soft we can **** in your hand.
04-15-2011 , 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spectralradius
while i agree with most of your posts, P!=(=?) NP is not something on which practical cryptography algorithms are based on, its more of a pure math kind of thing .
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoahSD
P versus NP isn't the perfect way to represent the problem practically. (If something's run time is O(n^100), for example, that's in P, but it ain't fast.) But, it is damn helpful. If someone finds a way to solve any NP-complete problem quickly, then almost all public key cryptography will be instacracked.

A big part of the reason for the slightly strange definition of P vs. NP is because it allows for a lot of theoretical work.

I think that the first post may be correct in the context of RSA encryption.

RSA encryption requires factorisation of a large number, (which is the basis for the public key), into primes. The large number is the product of two big primes. The product is disclosed, the primes are not. The encryption depends on the factorisation of the big number into the primes being difficult.

Facorisation is believed to be hard. It is believed not to be in either the class of NP problems, or P problems. As such, proving that P=NP or that P<>NP would have no impact on finding a more efficient algorithm to crack RSA. (Although it's not known for sure that factorisation isn't P or NP.)

Links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_factorization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA
04-15-2011 , 10:40 AM
Integer factorization is in FNP (the functional equivalent of the decision problems in NP), and FNP = FP if and only P = NP.
04-15-2011 , 10:52 AM
Good point. I also mis-read the Wiki, and the decision version of the problem is in the class NP. (It isn't the class NP-complete.)
04-15-2011 , 12:19 PM
re: food discussion. just got back from copenhagen and had one sick meal, basic tr below. will try and write some more later about my thoughts on everything (playing atm). couldn't get reservations at Noma, but ate at Geranium and was not dissapointed.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=246
04-15-2011 , 02:11 PM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29.../#post26051076

nvg thread about ftp/ps/ other sites domain names being confiscated by us govt...
04-15-2011 , 02:14 PM
gg
04-15-2011 , 02:22 PM
DOJ indicts founders of top US online poker sites

"Federal authorities unsealed an indictment Friday against the founders of the three largest internet poker companies operating in the U.S. The indictment charges eleven defendants, including the founders of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, and Absolute Poker, with bank fraud, money laundering, and illegal gambling offenses, according to Federal authorities in New York. Restraining orders were issued against more than 75 bank accounts used by the poker companies and their payment processors, while five Internet domain names used by the companies to host poker games were seized, federal authorities added in a statement."

gg online pokers.
04-15-2011 , 02:39 PM
how long until the sites are actually unusable for US players?
04-15-2011 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jsnipes28
re: food discussion. just got back from copenhagen and had one sick meal, basic tr below. will try and write some more later about my thoughts on everything (playing atm). couldn't get reservations at Noma, but ate at Geranium and was not dissapointed.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=246
tyty, reading now. plz do write much more inc any cheaper recommendations!

geranium - total cost? also plz tell me more about that sick-looking milk dish?
04-15-2011 , 02:49 PM
reading this news bit: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...852516194.html

makes me 99% positive the sites are going to lose any legal battle. given that the fed will ask for billions in penalties, i think there is a pretty decent chance we will lose whatever funds we have on FT/PS/UB. Also, cashing out is probably not going to happen very successfully (currently been waiting on 20k+ from FT over a month). Either way, the mad dash to cash out will work against the fact that FT probably has few or no remaining processors.

tough breaks
04-15-2011 , 03:25 PM
stars now axed for us players
04-15-2011 , 03:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by viffer
if you already had action why would you care where you sit, why ot get up? you want some thing soft we can **** in your hand.
Not that i should have to explain myself, just follow the rules ffs, i had 2 tables of HU on party, i didn't want to play nutsinho because both of us are generally up for 4 tabling matches so I'd rather play him when I'm free and can 4 table concentrating on him. Some people only want 1 or 2 tables and I would have been happy to play someone like that alongside my party tables (or obv if a fish sits i would play). Also I filter the lobby so that it only shows tables with 1 or more players so that it's not so cluttered so it's a marginal hassle to open a new table. Given that he should be the one leaving, there should be no need for me to do this. I try to sit with people every day (and have sat with him personally multiple times and then left when he said he's busy or didn't respond), they say no ty, i say ok gl and leave, I don't see why he can't extend the same courtesy.
04-15-2011 , 03:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BalugaWhale
reading this news bit: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...852516194.html

makes me 99% positive the sites are going to lose any legal battle. given that the fed will ask for billions in penalties, i think there is a pretty decent chance we will lose whatever funds we have on FT/PS/UB. Also, cashing out is probably not going to happen very successfully (currently been waiting on 20k+ from FT over a month). Either way, the mad dash to cash out will work against the fact that FT probably has few or no remaining processors.

tough breaks
I don't think that the sites can commit fraud to pay off fines for committing fraud, which is exactly what stealing our money to pay off their penalties would be. Unless, of course, they want to face more fraud charges.
04-15-2011 , 03:31 PM
can't sit stars now from US. Any canadian players want to try and report if it works?
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