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11-28-2008 , 03:28 AM
Game has been going 15 hours 3 handed with very good player and mega ding dong multi-millionaire who has been up for 3 days and came to play us after losing like 400k in a different game. He is doing stuff like 3k straddles, calling 10 2 os for 9k preflop, calling down 5th pair for 17k into stright/flush boards etc. MEGA SUPER DING DONG!

I was stuck about 50k for first 14 hours now im up about 50k w 100k stack after many hours of grinding, villian (the ding dong) is stuck like 300k when the following arrives.

i have like 100k he has maybe 65k

he straddles for 1200 i call 55

flop k57 (two spades) he bets like 2k i call
turn 3 he bets 4k i raise to 10k he shoves 40k more to call????????

I know it sounds like insta snap but here are key points to consider:

-In 15 hours of play this is his 2nd shove 3 handed and he has played EVERY hand but only shoved 2 times?
-I have been playing ULTRA NIT! for 2 reasons a) the game is a bit above my usual stakes B) no need to get out of line, he'll pay me max value everytime I have top pair, he can not fold a hand. VERY LOOSE PASSIVE
-Im 90% poistive that if i can fold and wait it out and snap him off in next 2 hours if i fold at which point id have 200k and he'll reload bigger and we can bump stakes, if i get cracked I have maybe another 50k bullet for the game

Given this info: he hasnt shoved in 13 hours, Im mega nit, i can smash him later (easily) and if i dont lose here we can bump the stakes/game, last he'll stay and reload till next wed for millions, quiting me isnt an option.........Sounds like a fold or call?

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11-28-2008 , 04:20 AM
Given your info, this seriously sounds like a fold. Given he played every hand but only shoved twice, it's pretty unlikely he'd shove some random two pairs here, this makes me believe he probably has a set or even 64, possibly 33 which is the only hand you beat. Also, it does not sound like he would do that with draws.

However, after all, I'd probably still call ... You can still get the money back .
11-28-2008 , 04:26 AM
He's been up for 3 days + he's a multi-millionaire + he's stuck. If I was him, AK+ will look like the nuts to me.

You also have a re-draw
11-28-2008 , 04:29 AM
honest to god, sometimes i can't even read posts like this without my mind wandering to how in the world people get this much money
11-28-2008 , 04:36 AM
Am I taking crazy pills here? Because the fact that you didn't raise the flop totally blew my mind. It just sounds ******ed.
11-28-2008 , 04:42 AM
the fact u were stuck 50 now up 50 and only sitting with 100k totally blows my mind
11-28-2008 , 04:46 AM
AE stopping by to be cryptic/cynical. I mean...the guys $$$ is in action and you throw out vagueries about his play because you missed another fish (perhaps) because he did not "check out" so you could play him?
11-28-2008 , 04:49 AM
Games this big don't exist in Cali. This whole story sounds contrived.

Edit: I'd be curious to know where you happened to find a game this big at this time of the year.

Last edited by Delecto; 11-28-2008 at 04:54 AM.
11-28-2008 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Delecto
Games this big don't exist in Cali. This whole story sounds contrived.
Yeah, this was my first thought too. I just didn't want to be the first one to say it in case people know him or something.
11-28-2008 , 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowHabit
He's been up for 3 days + he's a multi-millionaire + he's stuck. If I was him, AK+ will look like the nuts to me.

You also have a re-draw
Remeber 1st time in 15 hours!!!!! He doesn't tilt! He literally lost a 150K pot to a 1 outter and smiled and said, nice hand.So tilting aint his thing nor is aggression. He never 3 bets, he never check raises. He bets away and CALLS EVERYTHING! This might be his first turn raise in 3 hours?
11-28-2008 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by onepac
Remeber 1st time in 15 hours!!!!! He doesn't tilt! He literally lost a 150K pot to a 1 outter and smiled and said, nice hand.So tilting aint his thing nor is aggression. He never 3 bets, he never check raises. He bets away and CALLS EVERYTHING! This might be his first turn raise in 3 hours?
So, in other words, it's the easiest fold on the planet for you. Then why do you even ask?
11-28-2008 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
Am I taking crazy pills here? Because the fact that you didn't raise the flop totally blew my mind. It just sounds ******ed.
If I raise against his range (any two) he folds air, if he has any sorta hand it'll get in regardless cause he'll bet/c turn and call shove river.....or c/c turn call 20K river. If he has air I get 1 if not 2 more streets of value by just calling flop. That's why I only call. Less than ******ed I think, but good input bud
11-28-2008 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by xker17x
the fact u were stuck 50 now up 50 and only sitting with 100k totally blows my mind
Game was originally 100/200 I was stuck 40 to be exact into the game for like 60 had 110K to be exact we bumped to 200/400 and he did 1K sleeper straddle every hand......make sense now?
11-28-2008 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Delecto
Games this big don't exist in Cali. This whole story sounds contrived.

Edit: I'd be curious to know where you happened to find a game this big at this time of the year.
You obv don't know cali- los angeles has the biggest games in the world many nights a week, u think the actors and billionaires play online or at commerce? There's several weekly 200/400 + games a week......Far from contrived. I love how if well known online pro posts or is villian there's 9m responses discussing the hand, unknow posts and its written off.
11-28-2008 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ChristianT
So, in other words, it's the easiest fold on the planet for you. Then why do you even ask?
Will give away too much info if i answer, but short of it is ive gotten mixed results
11-28-2008 , 06:06 AM
Oh god, you're the villain aren't you?
11-28-2008 , 06:07 AM
ok this game did happen...i played in it for awhile....OP's reads are accurate....
i call.

villian however is NOT a bad player, just loves to gamble.
AK for him in this spot is not an auto shove.
however i think he would value a flush draw alot more in this spot then AK.
and for that reason i call.
he was def in mindset of **** it im stuck a ton lets gamble and try and get even.
11-28-2008 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gobbo
Oh god, you're the villain aren't you?
i am not villian
11-28-2008 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
ok this game did happen...i played in it for awhile....OP's reads are accurate....
i call.

villian however is NOT a bad player, just loves to gamble.
AK for him in this spot is not an auto shove.
however i think he would value a flush draw alot more in this spot then AK.
and for that reason i call.
he was def in mindset of **** it im stuck a ton lets gamble and try and get even.
Sounds like something a flush draw can cure!

EDIT: Although he doesn't tilt, no one wants to lose. And Villain is losing.
11-28-2008 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
ok this game did happen...i played in it for awhile....OP's reads are accurate....
i call.

villian however is NOT a bad player, just loves to gamble.
AK for him in this spot is not an auto shove.
however i think he would value a flush draw alot more in this spot then AK.
and for that reason i call.
he was def in mindset of **** it im stuck a ton lets gamble and try and get even.
Hes no longer "gambling" cause we're playing 2/4/1k and all have 100K+ stacks so he feel like he can get his money back being semi normal, his 1st hour antics are totally over. He's checking draws, even exercising pot control n stuff from time to time, but no longer acting INSANE, hasnt for 8 hours at least since the stacks got so big and we bumped stakes.
He is BAD- Ad Kd Qd 2D 10s board he holds 10 4 os no diamond is a standard call for him to a 3 bet pre, bet flop, check turn bet riv. Last 6 hours of match he WILL NOT FOLD A PAIR.............Also, isnt your other 2+2 name recallme? LOL
11-28-2008 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
ok this game did happen...i played in it for awhile....OP's reads are accurate....
i call.

villian however is NOT a bad player, just loves to gamble.
AK for him in this spot is not an auto shove.
however i think he would value a flush draw alot more in this spot then AK.
and for that reason i call.
he was def in mindset of **** it im stuck a ton lets gamble and try and get even.
ummm get me in this game?

(L)
11-28-2008 , 06:47 AM
you fold, he flashes AA, i lol.

15 hours of sitting there with your finger on the trigger and you fold.

poker is fun, ... for ev-ry-one ...
11-28-2008 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Recon20k
you fold, he flashes AA, i lol.

15 hours of sitting there with your finger on the trigger and you fold.

poker is fun, ... for ev-ry-one ...
Dont need to pull "a trigger" when i can jab him for 10k-25k over and over relentlessly? enroute to 250K when he announces, "we're playing 1k/2k im reloading $500k" and begins to play even worse cause he'll now be up for hour number 86 stuck over a million and blown out of his own mind. Just a thought? .........I did not fold BTW
11-28-2008 , 07:47 AM
I should add: Hes playing very passive, not raising draws really. nabbed me in a few 30k pots when i called river cause i was certain hed have bet or raised a draw pior streets. So fs or sd not overwhelming portion of his range. combo he may but i really beilieve he'd call there too. Remeber 15 hours only 2 shoves playin 3 handed!
11-28-2008 , 07:54 AM
You're saying he's playing really passive, so you want to fold turn. But on the other hand you say you didn't raise flop because you lose value since he will bet a lot of turns. This doesn't make a lot of sense.

      
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