I aggree completely. And the worst part is: you can't hunt weaker regs with battlenet so they would never try to fight and accept a rematch -> again less reg/reg action

Good point emotionx
Copy/paste that in the pokerstars improvement thread i dont think the pokerstars rep reads this thread

Anyone know if Sashok_Kovel offers coaching?

if you want to occasionally sit someone and sometimes not, you don't have to worry about his priorities, you just have to take him off your own friendlist and later put him on that list again. only thing that can happen is that he takes it personally and puts you off the list as well, but that can happen in any system.

good point, but if this system is introduced, you should be able to choose how many tables you want to sit ata specific stake level at all times, so when action is good at 1ks he could just lower the number of tables he wants to play at 500s, no?

im a slight winner at the $7s currently- 1.7% roi over 6.5k games - however spent more time recently than i had and am 5.2% over previous 1.5k games. Im going to put more time in these and want to improve. should i just go with husng.com or what would people advise ? looked at coaching but it is quite steep.

The HUSNG.com standard or premium membership would be well worth purchasing imo. I've bought a lot of video packages from HUSNG.com and I think the premium membership is definitely the best value for the money. You would be hard pressed to get more than one hour of private poker coaching from a player of comparable ability for the price of the premium subscription. An hour of private poker coaching probably won't accomplish much of anything (which is why many poker coaches won't even sell you such a small amount of coaching) but I think you'd find the premium membership very helpful in taking your game to the next level.

Happy HUSNG.com customer here.

Which is the most accurate way to measure how we've played by staring at the graph in PT4?:
1. All-in equity
2. Overlay Net Adjusted
3. ROI % Ajusted

I am filtering to one stake and yet these stats are very different. Rake is not included in the chip-EV graph but even after doing the math, the stats differ a lot. The "My C Net Won" seems to be the same as ROI % always.

what do you mean how we have played?
most acurate indicator will be green line - how much you have won or lost.
If you are talking about how good you are playing than for those stats you will need big samples and still someone with 1% roi can be playing better than someone with 3% roi.
So you will have to look in to your game if you want to know how good/bad you played.

Allin EQ is good for hands played+chips won if i remember well.
Overlay Net Adj is good for tournaments+prizes graph.
Roi adj% is just EV roi.
I don't think it matters which one do you look at, but you need big sample. Most ppl usually look at their Overlay net adj, or roi adj%.

One kinda important thing: If you analyse your play regarding SD and NonSD winnings, you should check Allin Equity (with hands, and chips on the graph), because you need to add the difference between your winnings (green line), and Allin equity winnings (orange, or something like that line) to your SD winnings (blue line).

Like if you lost -10K chips in SD, and your winnings is +25K and allin EQ is +50K chips, than your "EV SD winnings" will be +15K (your blue line "should be" at +15K instead of -10K).

Hope it's understandable (language barrier lol).

But don't give too much attention on your EV. Focus on playing good, and your EV will be increase

none, I just meant which of those EV-stats is most accurately displaying how much we "should've won" if the all-in situations were fair over any sample.

I agree that EV is nothing that we should focus on intensively, but rather a benchmark of how we are performing. The stats differ a lot in my database, which is why I am starting to wonder how good I'm actually playing and if I really do run bad at all.

One funny thing though is card distribution which cannot be measured (yet) by the program. backdoors, coolers and other fun stuff can totally skew the EV. So like you said None, the real indicator of how good we are in the end is the actual winnings/ROI - which we need an absurd amount of volume for to find out .

than use overlay net adjusted and make sure graph is in $

In a nusthell:
* allin equity is used with chips graph; shows ev luck in pots that were ai before the river; but doesn't take rake into account; and this is also where you put red/blue line if you like
* overlay net adjusted is used with $ graph; extrapolates chips ev and adjusts for the rake; this should be closer to the "truth" cause there is the rake

Don't mix the two (and it's easy to get lost with all the checkboxes). If you see 2 Y axis, you're doing it wrong.

Thanks for that elaboration! ROI % seems to be the correct amount after rake (winnings/buyin/games played), but Adjusted ROI % doesn't seem to be friend with the Overlay Net Adjusted at all (differing 1-3% ROI).

Edit:
After removing rake from about 900 tournaments and checking my EV ROI (chips), my ROI in this case is 4.9%. Overlay Net Adjusted shows 5.8% and the Adjusted ROI % (info box stat) says 6.5%). Either PT4 is lying twice or I am sucking at math today .

Edit 2:
Removing rake from the Adjusted ROI % puts it lower than the other at 4.57%. So nothing makes sense to me right now. Should I maybe ask the PT4 support?

wtf I just read

Maybe I wasn't clear enough, I was writing on the fly, like trying to explain a thought process during a hand, it sometimes comes out very weird .

Assume that we played 1000 games of $10 HUSNG's (rake is $0.2).
Our C Net Won is $250.
Our All-in Equity (Chip EV) shows +35000 chips, which is 70 buyins pre rake. If we subtract the rake (0.2*1000)/10 = 20 buyins, we have our EV of 50 buyins or $500 which is 5% ROI.

Now we check the Overlay Net Adjusted graph instead that points our EV winnings at $650, which is (650/10)/1000 = 6.5% ROI.

Lastly we check our Adjusted ROI % stat in the information box, and to our surprise, this creepy fellow is telling us that we actually have an ROI of 7% or 0.07*1000*10 = $700.

Now, who should we trust?

Id trust chip ev, its allways correct - 70*9.8-200 = 486$ = 4.8% ev roi

From what I remember in not so distant past, there were issues with both pt4 and hm2 about how they calculate adjusted winnings. I'm not sure it's been resolved yet.

I'm now using EV stats that are completely based on chip expectation and it feels much more "accurate" or fair so to speak. Basically the ROI EV is the ROI you should have if the flip-wins were fairly distributed. Rake has also been taken into account just like in the included ROI stat is being calculated (Net won divided by investments).

This is how it looks like:


Of course I am sharing, if you are interested just shoot me a PM. Maybe I can add a download link here later if that's allowed. And please tell me if you find any problems with it. Note that it only works for a 500 chips HUSNG at the moment.

Quick question: What EVbb/100 for SB and BB is considered good in these? Both above and below 16bb deep would be interesting to know also.

Currently Playing intertops and all action above 30s has dried up. How is the action on Winning and what's the best rakeback deal?

27% is the max rakeback there.

Action should be better than Intertops (since Intertops had to segregate from the rest of the network due to Lock and Cake not paying them settlements on player losses).

35 hypers

guys u think we can bet here for value against 6x and draws and chk back almost any river?
also it makes river play easier.

Seat 1: Adamoss89 (470 in chips)
Seat 2: Orsulab3rt (530 in chips)
Orsulab3rt: posts small blind 10
Adamoss89: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Orsulab3rt [Qs 7s]
Orsulab3rt: raises 20 to 40
Adamoss89: calls 20
*** FLOP *** [8s 6d Ac]
Adamoss89: checks
Orsulab3rt: bets 35
Adamoss89: calls 35
*** TURN *** [8s 6d Ac] [7c]
Adamoss89: checks
Orsulab3rt: bets 60
Adamoss89: calls 60
*** RIVER *** [8s 6d Ac 7c] [2c]
Adamoss89: checks
Orsulab3rt: checks