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07-14-2013 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Polarized Bear
30bi below EV is like a bad-ish day. Also ~1,5% EV roi isn't good at 1,5. Never played there, but I guess you could do 10-15% EV roi. Work on your game a bit, and you'll win moneyzz even when your running below EV
LOL. I don't think you could even reach 10% ev roi with that rake over a long sample size.
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07-14-2013 , 08:24 AM
Oh, forgot that the rake must be higher there I just based on the fact that some ppl can make 7-8% roi at 30-60s (yeah, by mostle playing recs, but occasionaly some regwar, and some of the recs has a bit knowledge about basic stuff), and I'm sure 1,5 is just full of randomly clicking recs.

OK, sry, now imo: you can do 10-12% EV roi minus the % of the fee (like if the fee is 0,0525 (3,5%), then you can do imo 6,5-8,5% EV roi)
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07-14-2013 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Polarized Bear
Oh, forgot that the rake must be higher there I just based on the fact that some ppl can make 7-8% roi at 30-60s (yeah, by mostle playing recs, but occasionaly some regwar, and some of the recs has a bit knowledge about basic stuff), and I'm sure 1,5 is just full of randomly clicking recs.

OK, sry, now imo: you can do 10-12% EV roi minus the % of the fee (like if the fee is 0,0525 (3,5%), then you can do imo 6,5-8,5% EV roi)
Please tell me who makes 7-8% roi at 30s and 60s while occasionally regwars
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07-14-2013 , 09:41 AM
over more than 20-30k games plz too
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07-14-2013 , 10:05 AM
whats is your calling range for a shove 7bb effec.?
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07-14-2013 , 10:47 AM
KK +
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07-14-2013 , 10:49 AM
I thought of jlturha and Sashok_Kovel, but search them at SS, and they don't really regwar much (although jlturha imo sits sometimes randoms, but if he see, that they're decent, he decline after couple of matches, and Sashok has 68 game with ilovefcbarca, but probably ilove sat him)
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07-14-2013 , 11:50 AM
yeah but how far over ev are either of them guys?
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07-14-2013 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by riveredu
KK +
meh, i might be spewing but I think we call JJ,QQ,and AKs too.
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07-14-2013 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shortchange
yeah but how far over ev are either of them guys?
Dunno, but there are a couple of guys, who are bringing around 5% EV roi at 60-100s. I'm not sure how the 1,5s field looks like, but I can assume they're really-really-really bad
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07-14-2013 , 04:25 PM
Do you think you could get 10% roi at 1.50s polarized bear?
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07-14-2013 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ValuetownJL
Do you think you could get 10% roi at 1.50s polarized bear?
10-13%-fee% (So if the fee is 3% there I think I could bring somewhere between 7-10% ev roi), I guess, depends on how much worse those recs than the recs at 7-15-30
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07-14-2013 , 08:04 PM
Well saying 10-15% ROI is possible is a lot different than saying 7-10%.

I wouldn't be surprised if 7-10% were possible long term from some very good players. It's obviously incredibly soft at that level, a higher % of people just do nutty **** like go AIPF every hand or call 3bets with 73o or just bluff every weak hand and slowplay strong hands.
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07-14-2013 , 08:10 PM
someone should 1 table 1.5$ for 50k games to find out.
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07-14-2013 , 08:20 PM
Did u crush 15s and 30s polarizedbear? Youre holdenper right?
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07-14-2013 , 08:24 PM
lol, this conversation is absolutely redundant. No one would have a correct sample from 1,5, if he could make 7+% roi

When I wrote 10-15% I didn't consider the higher fee, and it was just a wild guess, but I think you should have a huge edge over the players at 1,5s if you're good.
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07-15-2013 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by zZzTILT
someone should 1 table 1.5$ for 50k games to find out.
And that someone should be you.

Spoiler:
Or ph33rox
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07-15-2013 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
And that someone should be you.

Spoiler:
Or ph33rox
haha n1
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07-17-2013 , 08:31 AM
this is headsup ?? my last 1k games at 7s i got 7.2% roi- not sure of ev but prob runnin above- not usin hm at min. decent sample need to be 2.5k or 5k or more or what ?
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07-17-2013 , 08:55 AM
50k
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07-17-2013 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
And that someone should be you.

Spoiler:
Or ph33rox
yeah **** off from my lobbies you two
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07-23-2013 , 02:10 PM
Hey guys, little request that has actually not much to do with Hypers itself, but well, it's for Hypers i'm doing it.

I'm actually trying to put a piece of software together. It includes getting population tendencies out of my HEM 1. I needed to get PFR for different stack-sizes (between 10-20bb), and it looks reaaaaally low because of the field i'm playing (.FR) (32% on average). That being said, i'd like to remove from the results all the guys who have a global PFR <15%, so that the results aren't too pulled down by the guys who don't have the raise button.

Any way to filter this out ?

Filter would look like :
BB
Steal attempted
Effective stack size 9.6-10.5
?? Exclude players with PFR <15% ??

Thanks !
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07-23-2013 , 03:37 PM
You would have to export all the hands of people with pfr>15 and create a new database with those hands.

Don't forget to backup your db first
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07-23-2013 , 03:46 PM
How shall I do that ?
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07-23-2013 , 05:07 PM
another thing i hate about battlenet with buddy list is that sometimes you simply want to play a worse reg to increase your volume, and other times its not in your interest because of X reasons (happens quite often to me), so wtf am i gonna do? ask him for buddy then remove, then ask him again? obv makes it stupid as hell, this fits quite well for most highstakes regs who play some other regs ocassionaly depending on hows the action going. I think they would be forced to bumhunt even more to avoid this weird feeling of adding someone and then removing him if you want to play him lol.

Just an example, im pretty sure serkules wouldnt sit a weaker reg at 500s if he has good fish action at 1ks, but battlenet would auto prompt him into it, so it creates a difficult spot for him because its pointless to play 500s regs while you have better action (big fishes etc), so in the end most likely people would try to avoid playing regs even more than before.. ?!?!

Now you can decide to play a reg that you might not want to play in other situation, with buddy list thats not the case, and its a problem imo.

Hope someone gets my point, its not too easy to explain, but i think its something to not look over.. the solution to "bumhunting" might be even worse

Last edited by emotionx; 07-23-2013 at 05:15 PM.
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