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So after 742 games at 1.5s my ev roi is just 1.7% which I guess is pretty pathetic. Judging from my blue and redline I think I'm either being too aggressive or too loose with calling, or both. If I were to make a video of me grinding 20ish minutes later this week, and post it itt. Would anyone be kind enough to review some of it?

Your Ev line is at 22.000 - that equals 44 games. 44/742 = 5,9 % before rake. So maybe 3,9 % after rake (+ rakeback).

Where do you get the 1,7% from?

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12-20-2013 , 12:10 PM

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Garlic yum

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Originally Posted by corleone9

Your Ev line is at 22.000 - that equals 44 games. 44/742 = 5,9 % before rake. So maybe 3,9 % after rake (+ rakeback).

Where do you get the 1,7% from?

I dont know how you calculated but keep in mind the rake is like 4% at 1.5s. 1.7% is what it says in pt4

44 bi x 1.5 = 68
Rake 0.06 x 742 = 44.52
68 - 44.5 = 23.48 profit

This would be like 2.1% roi but then i havent subtracted the villains rake from the won games

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Last edited by Garlic yum; 12-20-2013 at 12:32 PM.

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12-20-2013 , 04:32 PM

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corleone9

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Originally Posted by Garlic yum

I wasn´t aware the rake was 4 % at 1,5 - that is sick. But I still don´t think 5,9 % before rake is bad at all. Get a bigger sample size and if you are still doing well in EV move up in stake (if your bankroll allows it). Then the rakeback also increases

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12-20-2013 , 06:56 PM

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futuring88

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This must be a fake. Only 30$ Hu Hypers:

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12-20-2013 , 07:53 PM

#7456

Ziki6368

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solid graph

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12-20-2013 , 08:07 PM

#7457

OneShot

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Originally Posted by futuring88

This must be a fake. Only 30$ Hu Hypers:

move up, make even more monies

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12-24-2013 , 08:40 AM

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Orsulab3rt

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Originally Posted by futuring88

This must be a fake. Only 30$ Hu Hypers:

v nice man

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12-24-2013 , 09:20 AM

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Armed_Robbery

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bumhunters gonna bumhunt.

Last edited by Armed_Robbery; 12-24-2013 at 09:20 AM. Reason: just kidding, i know you sit everyone, vvn!

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12-24-2013 , 08:03 PM

#7460

shortchange

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 379

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Originally Posted by futuring88

This must be a fake. Only 30$ Hu Hypers:

move up, i hear 100s are ez this time of year

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12-26-2013 , 10:32 AM

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futuring88

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Thx!

I heared something about a Hu SNG Cartell, but that can not be true. I will try 100$ SNGs next year.

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12-29-2013 , 12:35 AM

#7462

Freakg

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how much is the actual expected roi for std winners and top winners for 30s-60s 100-200s and >200
just an estimation would do

oh hai

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12-29-2013 , 07:34 AM

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Irregular

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at 30s-60s it's around 3%, when you move up to 100s and 200s you should expect 3% and later when you move up to even higher stakes you should have a roi of 3% but still make money

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12-30-2013 , 07:32 AM

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longtraw

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anyone be able to tell me how many games you would expect to play per hour 1 tabling and 2 tabling hu hypers at the $7 level- i always have it in my head about 20 games 1 tabling but i could be way off?

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12-30-2013 , 09:16 AM

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Munchking

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Depends on playstyle/person/opponents(somewhat).
For me it is ~20 games one tabling, ~40 two tabling. More than 2 tables, I get slower than 1 game/3 min.

I uses to play more aggressive, and it'd be a 1 game/2min. I imagine playing an all-limp style would make games longer than 1 game/3 min.

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12-30-2013 , 10:57 AM

#7466

longtraw

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what type of sample do you need to get good idea of your roi. and what is attainable at the $7 games - this 1 tabling and 2 tabling ?

At the $7 games i got a 2.5% roi over a 7-8k sample but that is spread out over a long period of time mostly 1 tabling- i feel my roi would be over that if i solely concentrate on these- my most recent 750 games my roi is 6.1%, dont think that sustainable though ??

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12-30-2013 , 11:16 AM

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Munchking

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I guess, 5k is a decent sample to be +\- 1% accurate. But that's just a guess.
As for 1k samples: sometimes I have a 1k that's 0 EV, and sometimes I crush for 8%.

2-3k games...I'd be getting between ~2.5% and ~5.2%; and my average over larger sample is around 4%. So you can guess the distribution.

If you're mostly one tabling 7's, it is likely that your game will be improving faster than you're getting decent sample to estimate it. I'd aim for 2k games for short term estimates.

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01-06-2014 , 03:43 PM

#7468

LuukV

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Playing the hypers also a bit. Does anybody know what is up with people who accept your rematch but then after a few seconds it says the match has been cancelled. Why is this? Villain busto?

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01-06-2014 , 03:59 PM

#7469

TheGreenMagi

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Originally Posted by LuukV

Playing the hypers also a bit. Does anybody know what is up with people who accept your rematch but then after a few seconds it says the match has been cancelled. Why is this? Villain busto?

yep... means villain is busto.

sometimes i feel bad when i bust someone's account... sometimes it's really satisfying.

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02-12-2014 , 04:17 AM

#7470

rkv

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Hello all! I'm new to the Heads Up forum, but I discovered HUSNGs recently and really like them. Last week I decided to commit to doing 1000 hyper turbos, regardless of how they go. I'm halfway through and quite pleased with the result. I've been absolutely crushing on the Merge 1.10 and 2.20 SNGs, and am moving up to 5.50 once I have grinded up my bankroll a bit more. I feel like at a 15%+ ROI, I must be on a good run, but there are so many fish out there that it's hard to imagine not beating the micros pretty easily.

http://imgur.com/VOwsGcN

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